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Originally posted by Lord_Byron28
The problem is your mixing dance pop with edm. If youre speaking about dance pop there have been plenty this year stronger, starships, pound the alarm, where have you been, scream, part of me, scream and shout, gangnam style, etc. Gaga isnt doing pure dance pop as she already did that in tf and TFM.
Edm has only had a few hits and theyve all come up within the past year.
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I was actually about to say this.. Calvin Harris isn't a EDM artist, and honestly I'd place his sound in the same area as David Guetta.. Even Calvin himself said he produces Pop/Dance songs, not EDM.. EDM has a special quality to it, which of the looks of it, Calvin can't do.. The closest to #1 on the EDM level is once again Beauty And A Beat, but I do agree it is mostly because it is Justin Bieber.. Spectrum has been actually doing somewhat well around the US, Going Top 50 on Pop and #1 on Dance.. I'm actually excited to see how Clarity does as I think it could do better than Spectrum with the right promo.. It's been sent to Pop Radio and has been added to some stations.. I believe it should start to pick up in the coming weeks.. 
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Originally posted by FameHooker
I agree with what you're saying, since Adele happened people have been embracing indie-ish music more, but don't you think that the problem with dance not having had another #1 since stronger was that, there were no great songs released after it?
Sure we had Where Have You Been, but it was not better than WFL and rihanna had hurt her momentum with the Birthday Cake feat. Chris Brown thing, had she released WHYB as WFL followup the era would've been much better.
Ke$ha flopped, but she did have success with Die Young, she is a singles artist after all, thing is that, most of the singers doing Dance music at the moment, are single-selling singers, they're not album artists like Gaga.
With the right song, gaga could have a bigger hit than WFL imo. 
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She could, but the question is will she? We all know that she doesn't get the token airplay that the other girls get
She should be fine on a WW scale, but her Mediabase peaks aren't where they should be, and that is a problem.
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Originally posted by FameHooker
After Judas under-performing and Marry The Night flopping people are questioning her hitmaking abilities, but i'm sure she will deliver, her career depends on this album.
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They shouldn't question it, to be honest. Anyone could tell you how huge "Scheiße" could have been as the lead or second single; mismanagement of the singles should not affect the perception of her work as a whole, though it unfortunately did.
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Originally posted by SixWholeYears
Not here for tacky trap music
Lady Azealia - ARTPOP: Roman Reloaded teas 
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You don't know what tacky means.
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Originally posted by TheLlamaNetwork
I was actually about to say this.. Calvin Harris isn't a EDM artist, and honestly I'd place his sound in the same area as David Guetta.. Even Calvin himself said he produces Pop/Dance songs, not EDM.. EDM has a special quality to it, which of the looks of it, Calvin can't do.. The closest to #1 on the EDM level is once again Beauty And A Beat, but I do agree it is mostly because it is Justin Bieber.. Spectrum has been actually doing somewhat well around the US, Going Top 50 on Pop and #1 on Dance.. I'm actually excited to see how Clarity does as I think it could do better than Spectrum with the right promo.. It's been sent to Pop Radio and has been added to some stations.. I believe it should start to pick up in the coming weeks.. 
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Stop, Calvin is EDM. Zedd and madeon aren't the only EDM producers that exist.
Where Have You Been is a good example of dr Luke's bastardized EDM.
Dance is fading, EDM is getting bigger. Gaga could give it the push it needs.
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Member Since: 9/1/2011
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
I am curious to see how ARTPOP meshes (or doesn't) with what Gaga has been saying. First she was inspired by the death of the blonde pop star. Then she was carefree and immature. Now the album is a bit more personal than she realized. On top of that she has compared ARTPOP to TFM in raver form. There was the promise of EDM, electro-trap, and j-hop. Radio, Cake, Stache, and ARTPOP might give a good insight into the album's sound.
I am really intrigued and I just can't wait for this to come out already 
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The j-pop sound was one track and it was partynauseous. I think we can expect some some typical gaga pop songs from redone and garibay. Redone may try to do some hackjob edm like starships. Garibay maybe produced ARTPOP since it sounded like HML. I think it'll range from dance pop to edm like songs such as stache and a few trap/urban influence like cake, TEA and RATCHET sound like they will be urban influenced.
Thematically who knows though. TEA and RATCHET sound fun and silly. G.U.Y.(girl under you) sounds fun with serious undertones think scheisse she said it was about new age feminism. Burqa will probably also be serious. The overarching theme is supposed to be about art, Warhol and pop culture. I think it'll be about as personal as TFM. There will be some fun and silly moments (tea and ratchet), love songs about taylor (already confirmed), fun but also serious (burqa and guy), and who knows about the rest. She said her and zedd created a complextro masterpiece inspired by Jakarta about bringing the world together by dance.
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The #2 Pop Radio Station in the US, KIIS, has officially added Clarity to their playlist
Zedd is ready to take over 
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Originally posted by Retro Dance Freak
They shouldn't question it, to be honest. Anyone could tell you how huge "Scheiße" could have been as the lead or second single; mismanagement of the singles should not affect the perception of her work as a whole, though it unfortunately did.
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Scheiße wouldn't have been that big of a hit. Sure, it would have been a hit at dance clubs, but it doesn't have pop-friendly melodic structure, which is important for radio success.
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Yet it's still not as much of a presence.
Every record sounds the same too. You have people like Usher repeating themselves with DJ Got Us Fallin In Love and Scream, and that ruins the genre's appeal for many people. Which leads to then searching for something more "real and emotional," like Adele.
Overproduction is also painful and all too common in dance pop today.
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Originally posted by Lord_Byron28
The problem is your mixing dance pop with edm. If youre speaking about dance pop there have been plenty this year stronger, starships, pound the alarm, where have you been, scream, part of me, scream and shout, gangnam style, etc. Gaga isnt doing pure dance pop as she already did that in tf and TFM.
Edm has only had a few hits and theyve all come up within the past year.
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Realistically though, the public will not perceive a difference between EDM and dance-pop. Mainly because dance-pop is watered down to its most basic form...
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There's a broad range of sounds and styles within the wider "dance/pop" genre. Even within Gaga's discography you have very different sounding "dance/pop" songs with Poker Face, Bad Romance, Telephone, Marry The Night, Government Hooker and Scheisse. Beyond her, TiK ToK and We Found Love are clearly different sounding but both "dance/pop".
If people are ignorant enough to dismiss everything with an electronic production as the same then there's no point in fretting over their opinions because they don't want to know.
If Gaga comes out with genuine electro/complextro then they will notice a difference. She just has to be careful that it's very fresh and not like the post-WFL rehashes with cliche post-chorus breakdowns and the "do do do do do..etc" chords.
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Scheiße wouldn't have been that big of a hit. Sure, it would have been a hit at dance clubs, but it doesn't have pop-friendly melodic structure, which is important for radio success.
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"Born This Way" had pretty crappy radio success for it's size nyway, I'm sure "Scheiße" would have been bigger overall.
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Lol EDM just stands for Electronic Dance Music.
Its just the toony label people are throwing around for Electronic Music now like they did with calling it 'Electronica' in the 90s.
If the Dance Music being made is Electronic(ie Trance, House, Techno, Happy Hardcore, Hardstyle, etc), its EDM.
Essentially Gaga has been doing Electronic Dance Music(Electropop, etc) since the beginning.
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Realistically though, the public will not perceive a difference between EDM and dance-pop. Mainly because dance-pop is watered down to its most basic form...
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I think people will notice a difference. Its like asking if people would notice the difference between nickelback and shinedown. They are both considered rock and are a part of a band but you can quite easily notice a difference and others will to.
People will notice a difference if her music is different from red one, dr. Luke and guetta.
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Originally posted by Retro Dance Freak
"Born This Way" had pretty crappy radio success for it's size nyway, I'm sure "Scheiße" would have been bigger overall.
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The only runaway success from that album would have been Hair, because it is one of the few songs in the album that does have a melodic structure.
Another thing about pop music is how it is often set in minor keys. Gaga is the only one that uses major keys, for better or worse. That would also have an effect on her radio success, I think.
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Originally posted by Lord_Byron28
I think the dark part was her revealling her bulimia. I cant think of anything that would leave her scars on her back
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I think it was a metaphor. To me it represented an angel that had lost it's wings, ie, Gaga lost her innocence through whatever put her in the hospital.
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Originally posted by giskard
I think it was a metaphor. To me it represented an angel that had lost it's wings, ie, Gaga lost her innocence through whatever put her in the hospital.
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I thought it was a literal back-stabbing?
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Originally posted by toanythingtaboo
I thought it was a literal back-stabbing?
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I think there are too many other references to innocence lost in that video to support a literal interpretation like that, but only Gaga really knows.
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As I said before. No matter what genre you think it sounds like. It'll still be percieved as electro/dance pop. Because Gaga is a pop artist. She is mainstream, I don't even care if we're talking on musical terms, it'll still be classified as such, especially with the way she writes. As Gagasm said, Electropop is essentially EDM, the only thing is that the scene doesn't like to view it as such, because of it's status. And let's not get into how pretentious the actual EDM scene can be.
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