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Discussion: Are Grammy's over-rated?
Member Since: 6/9/2012
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Originally posted by J03Y
There's clearly no convincing a generic deaf hipster that their favorite artist can't sing better than half of Ke$ha's unreleased material. I also notice you skipped over that comment I made, why are you avoiding the possibility of their work only showcased on YouTube is better? Why are you being narrow-minded and insecure? It's OK to accept popular artists I was like you once. I was in denial. You can save yourself sweetie.

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I'm not trying to convince you because you stan for a generic crappy artist that is Ke$ha and for a singer that sells for her boobs and her generic-as-hell forgettable songs that is Katy Perry. I've heard some songs Katy Perry did before she became famous and the videos as well and they are ok but her voice is still TERRIFYING live. People know Katy Perry doesn't have talent and it's ok, they accept it and still buy her music because she is only here to sell the generic song of the moment. At least she has good taste and likes Lana, you should learn it from her. I will say that Kesha's voice is awful in studio, I cannot handle how she would sound live so I won't even try.
And Lana's writting skills would slay Ke$ha's and Katy's lives as well, Lana is also way better in other aspects.
And why don't you stop being that judgmental stubborn and ignorant being human and search for a live song by Lana for the iTunes Festival for example? Why don't you look for the cover she made in the BBC UK of Kasabian's Goodbye Kiss? Maybe it will be too much for your ignorant and closed mind but try it at least.
Bye.
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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Originally posted by swissman
Are you implying that Adele's album isn't a serious record because it is whining about an ex?
Anyway, I highly doubt that Party Rock Anthem needed any recognition whatsoever. It's not really a one-of-a-kind record.
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The rules for the dance categories are stupid, that's what LMFAO should be nominated in not pop. There are so many better options to choose from than SAIK.
And every song on 21 was about relationship drama, it's like 90210 voiced in classic pop. She has a beautiful voice but the lyrics seriously bring it down.
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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No in the past
Yes since Fearless wins AOTY
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Member Since: 3/19/2012
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Originally posted by Mastamaind
Both perfectly fine nominees, just because you don't make "serious" music, doesn't mean you don't deserve recognition, I mean last year Adele won 'Album Of The Year' for whining about her ex.
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Wait, you're saying that LMFAO and Flo Rida deserve their nominations but not Adele???? OMG 
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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Originally posted by XXXO
I'm not trying to convince you because you stan for a generic crappy artist that is Ke$ha and for a singer that sells for her boobs and her generic-as-hell forgettable songs that is Katy Perry. I've heard some songs Katy Perry did before she became famous and the videos as well and they are ok but her voice is still TERRIFYING live. People know Katy Perry doesn't have talent and it's ok, they accept it and still buy her music because she is only here to sell the generic song of the moment. At least she has good taste and likes Lana, you should learn it from her. I will say that Kesha's voice is awful in studio, I cannot handle how she would sound live so I won't even try.
And Lana's writting skills would slay Ke$ha's and Katy's lives as well, Lana is also way better in other aspects.
And why don't you stop being that judgmental stubborn and ignorant being human and search for a live song by Lana for the iTunes Festival for example? Why don't you look for the cover she made in the BBC UK of Kasabian's Goodbye Kiss? Maybe it will be too much for your ignorant and closed mind but try it at least.
Bye.
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Admittedly her imagery and words are beautiful and maybe if she sang a different way I'd find them catchy lyrics. And it's just that her voice sounds dry and boring, it's her attitude.
She walks around with this air around her like she's better than everyone just because she's her when a) she's a debut artist barely anyone knows her b) there's a difference between having pride in your work and then acting like your the HBIC. I just don't respond to people like that so to me her music is horrible and I don't like it. It sounds stupid, but it's a personal thing I just don't like people like her.
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Member Since: 8/4/2009
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Yes, they are.
These are the awards I care the less, and I don't even like the show,
it is boring to me, so at least in my opinion I don't care about them because
they are overrated. 
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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Yes and no. It's still a prestigious award, but over the years, it's become a joke. Now, it seems like if you're not commercial, then you don't get nominated. Case in point: Alicia Keys not getting nominated for anything for "TEOF"..and Beyonce getting omitted for "4" when she's a grammy darling..I just don't get it..
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Member Since: 2/8/2012
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Originally posted by callum
they're only over-rated only if your fav didn't get nominated 
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Member Since: 4/16/2012
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Originally posted by callum
they're only over-rated only if your fav didn't get nominated 
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Originally posted by Eaten By Lions
No, because they are still the most acclaimed award a musician can get.
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This! :celesital5:
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Sometimes they can be, Especially when your fav was nominated 5 or 6 time but walked away empty headed. 
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Member Since: 6/16/2006
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they are a joke until your fave wins one. Then they are the main receipt for said fave.
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Member Since: 11/2/2010
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Originally posted by Party And Bull
I mean, it would be nice for my fave to be able to say "I won a grammy", but it doesn't take much to win a Grammy now-a-days
Talent is no longer a factor. It seems like they ultimately choose the winner upon popularity of the song, not which song was actually better
What do you think?
Are they?
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yes. they're not the oscars of music.
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Member Since: 6/16/2006
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Originally posted by Mastamaind
People act as if they're making mistakes just now, they've done in their entire history, sometimes snubbing albums that obviously deserved their biggest awards, but they're people, it's obviously gonna be biased and more when they represent the music industry. This is not something from today.
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I Agree
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Originally posted by Mastamaind
Both perfectly fine nominees, just because you don't make "serious" music, doesn't mean you don't deserve recognition, I mean last year Adele won 'Album Of The Year' for whining about her ex.
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I Dont Agree
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People have been bitching and complaining about the Grammy noms for years, This isnt a new occurrence. Are we going to have this thread every single year after the Grammy Noms are out? It was like this in 1995, 1985, 1975, nothing has changed. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they get it wrong, but to sit here and say that the Grammy awards are completely meaningless is completely assinine. If your fav one a Grammy, especially one in the big four, yall would be quick to bring up those reciepts. They would be top of the list with Critical Acclaim, and album sales. Grammys are important, everyone wants one, and they bitch and moan when they dont get one. Watched by 40 million people last year, over the freaking oscars, yall with Deal 
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Member Since: 8/15/2012
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Originally posted by swissman
Are you implying that Adele's album isn't a serious record because it is whining about an ex?
Anyway, I highly doubt that Party Rock Anthem needed any recognition whatsoever. It's not really a one-of-a-kind record.
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Originally posted by J03Y
Gurl don't drag the Adele stans in here we're getting enough gunfire from the Lana stans 
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Originally posted by like2throw
(...)I Dont Agree (...)
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Yes and no, for a part it's "serious" because of the instrumentation, emotion in singing but if you take the big picture, see who it's for, why did she do it you can drag it if you want. You can drag anything, the thing is that why should club or pop/simple music not be nominated or taken serious, people spend their money, time, attention, life with these songs, they should be recognized.
I think 'Sexy And I Know It' should be recognized, 'Party Rock Anthem', 'Wild Ones', I mean, they're not my jams but they're part of pop history, therefore music industry, just because a song makes you cry or it's more intimate doesn't translate it into a better song than a pop/dance/party one.
I mean I think the pop categories should be expanded so songs like 'Set Fire To The Rain' are not nominated with the dance/pop that are nominated with it. I can see it winning just because it's Adele. And that's not good.
The thing is that sometimes people inflate the praise for dumb reasons. Just because you see Adele in a "serious" black dress, sing "serious"/deep/honest songs, with old "serious" musicians playing doesn't mean you have to claim she's the next best thing or that she is great at all, that's all semiotics, man.
I mean besides the singles minus 'Rumour Has It', the album is not that good. I'm totally sure in the year there were better albums, just like I think 'Kid A' was much better than 'Two Against Nature' but they awarded the other guy prolly because that was his first album in 20 years and had more US success, in other words, political reasons. On the other hand the greatly mediocre "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb" won the category and it's simply not a good album, their album before that was better, but yeah it had to win because it was U2 pretending to address Irak in its songs, and had an attention-grabbing title in the middle of a war in the US. I mean, it's the same album that has the generic 'Vertigo'.
In other words if Adele needs to be dragged, she will, because no one can deny it's an album whining about her ex not wanting her. If you wanna reduce it, it's just that. Not to say that the album doesn't have the great songs it has but to say the best will not always win the category or even be nominated.
That's life/the world, unfair.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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I think 'Sexy And I Know It' should be recognized, 'Party Rock Anthem', 'Wild Ones', I mean, they're not my jams but they're part of pop history
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Plan 9 From Outer Space is part of film history, does that mean it should have gotten an Oscar nom?
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In other words if Adele needs to be dragged, she will because, no one can deny it's an album whining about her ex not wanting her. If you wanna reduce it, it's just that.
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What kind of sense does that make? You can 'reduce' pretty much any album or song in the same manner and make it sound bad. Here, I'll do it right now:
"Papa Was A Rolling Stone" is just a song in which Temptations whine about their father not loving them enough.
"Another Day in Paradise" is just a song in which Phil Collins whines about poor people getting snubbed.
"Master of Puppets" is just James Hetfield whining about his drug addiction.
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Member Since: 3/27/2011
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No. I think they put popular nominees in the categories most likely for the ratings, but when it comes to winning they're usually fair.
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Member Since: 3/9/2011
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Yes, legendary artists never got a grammy and it's an insult that LMFAO got nominated.
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Member Since: 8/15/2012
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Originally posted by Chill Bill
Plan 9 From Outer Space is part of film history, does that mean it should have gotten an Oscar nom?
What kind of sense does that make?
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But I was saying that as a factor, they're perfectly fine pop songs, I just recall a friend who likes rock/jazz adding 'Wild Ones' to his pop playlist. I mean those songs do have an appeal, when Lana, Katy, or any other diva doesn't get nominated, ATRL goes crazy, but what about the guys? They make pop, too, let them have their success.
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Originally posted by Chill Bill
You can 'reduce' pretty much any album or song in the same manner and make it sound bad. Here, I'll do it right now:
"Papa Was A Rolling Stone" is just a song in which Temptations whine about their father not loving them enough.
"Another Day in Paradise" is just a song in which Phil Collins whines about poor people getting snubbed.
"Master of Puppets" is just James Hetfield whining about his drug addiction.
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That was exactly my point at people reducing pop.
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