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Poll: Bigger Era: Oops!... I Did It Again or 21 or Daydream?
View Poll Results: Bigger era
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Oops!... I Did It Again
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47.73% |
Daydream
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15.00% |
21
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Originally posted by Apollo21
Well to begin with, it's really not fair to compare the two eras in terms of album and single sales as the music market today is totally different 12 or so years ago. Plus the fact that Adele's album has a cross-over appeal unlike Britney's which is Pure POP.
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It's not Adele problem that she is not singing teen pop trash for 8 years old girls
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21 is the biggest female era ever.
Its only competition may be "Jagged Little Pill" & "Come On Over"
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OOPS

AND YOU WILL DEAL
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Originally posted by Apollo21
Gurl, you don't have to point out that the market today is 60% of what it used to. I know that and no one is saying that ..Oops sold more than 21. The latter sold more. That's a fact. Does that mean 21 'era' is bigger than ...Oops 'era'? NO. Did you even read what I just wrote? Album and single sales are just two of MANY factors that come in hand when you talk about the over-all success of an artist's era.
Second thing, how can you say that RITD WILL sell for the rest of the time? You suddenly got a crystal ball now???  Most fans of today's music are bandwagon-ers. Jumping to what's currently "in" and "different" just so their friends would find them cool. What's popular now can be totally forgotten a year or two from now. Britney and Mariah's generation are different and their solid fan-bases just prove that.
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Since when? Alanis Morrisette, whose success is compared to a current-day Adele's, was from the same generation as Mariah and Britney, and she had a "bandwagon." And let's not start with the Spice Girls & the annoying boy band bandwagons we had during that time. Let's not rewrite history. Every generation has had a "fad" and artists who had bandwagons, so don't sit up here and pretend Mariah and especially Britney, who was apart of one of the biggest fads in history, were part of some glory days when they were not. They managed to outlast a lot of their peers, but that's something totally different.
And even if your theory was true, you're doing the same thing you are complaining about others doing to Mariah's and Britney's successes and downplaying what Adele has accomplished in 2011 and 2012 when sales are at an all-time low. You keep mentioning these irrelevant and dumb things, such as Adele having an advantage because of social media, when social media is just as much as a curse as it is a gift.  Fact of the matter is, while we don't know for sure how 21 will age, it doesn't change the fact that 21 was a blockbuster moment in history and will go down as one of the most successful eras in music. Plus, your guess is just as good as ours. 21 could be one of those eras people talk about in retrospect. It's pointless to even debate the whole "long-lasting" thing when the question is "What was the bigger era?".
All of that other mess you are spewing is just annoying stan talk. And your point is even more useless because ...Oops I Did Again is hardly an era people talk about on the daily. It was no Thriller, Purple Rain or The Bodyguard. It's as forgotten or looked back on as an MC Hammer era or a Taylor Dayne song, and the only people who constantly bring it up are nostalgic pop fans, Britney fans who are stuck in 1999 and pray for "pre-2007 Britney", and Britney fans who were born in 1998 and pretend that they lived through that long-forgotten era. Its singles aren't played on radio, the album itself doesn't have strong catalog sales and stopped selling right after its peak and only produced one hit people may remember but won't bother to even download from iTunes or play at parties because it's so dated and cheesy. Get a clue. 
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Since when? Alanis Morrisette, whose success is compared to a current-day Adele's, was from the same generation as Mariah and Britney, and she had a "bandwagon." And let's not start with the Spice Girls & the annoying boy band bandwagons we had during that time. Let's not rewrite history. Ever generation has had a "fad" and artists who had bandwagons, so don't sit up here and pretend Mariah and especially Britney, who was apart of one of the biggest fads in history, were part of some glory days when they were not. They managed to outlast a lot of their peers, but that's something totally different.
And even if your theory was true, you're doing the same thing you are complaining about others doing to Mariah's and Britney's successes and downplaying what Adele has accomplished in 2011 and 2012 when sales are at an all-time low. You keep mentioning these irrelevant and dumb things such as Adele having an advantage because of social media, when social media is just as much as a curse as it is a gift.  Fact of the matter is, while we don't know for sure how 21 will age, it doesn't change the fact that 21 was a blockbuster moment in history and will go down as one of the most successful eras in music. Plus, your guess is just as good as ours. 21 could be one of those eras people talk about in retrospect. It's pointless to even debate the whole "long-lasting" thing when the question is "What was the bigger era?".
All of that other mess you are spewing is just annoying stan talk. And your point is even more useless because ...Oops I Did Again is hardly an era people talk about on the daily. It was no Thriller, Purple Rain or The Bodyguard. It's as forgotten or looked back on as an MC Hammer era or Taylor Dayne song, and the only people who constantly bring it up are nostalgic pop fans, Britney fans who are stuck in 1999 and pray for "pre-2007 Britney", and Britney fans who were born in 1998 and pretend that they lived through that long-forgotten era. Its singles aren't played on radio, the album itself doesn't have strong catalog sales and stopped selling right after its peak and only produce one hit people may remember but won't bother to even download from iTunes or play at parties because it's so dated and cheesy. Get a clue. 
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 I can't at the meltdown.  Why u getting mad though? Calm down sis. You can rebut my arguments without being obnoxious ya know. Don't get too carried away by your emotions. You obviously don't like Britney so anything that would come out of your mouth about her is bad. I can't change that. You are entitled to say whatever you want to say. This is just a POP forum. LMAO. Could you quote the arguments in which I downplayed Adele's success? Point it. Her success is nothing short of impressive. I am a Britney fan but far from being a blinded stan. And what in the ****in' world made you brought Thriller, Purple Rain and The Bodyguard in this thread? HAHAHA. Last time I checked there only 3 eras being talked about here. Do me a favor gurl. Don't make yourself look pitiful. Adele's success is enormous, impressive and defied laws of probability but still... ...Oops era>> 21 Era.
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Originally posted by Apollo21
 I can't at the meltdown.  Why u getting mad though? Calm down sis. You can rebut my arguments without being obnoxious ya know. Don't get too carried away by your emotions. You obviously don't like Britney so anything that would come out of your mouth about her is bad. I can't change that. You are entitled to say whatever you want to say. This is just a POP forum. LMAO. Could you quote the arguments in which I downplayed Adele's success? Point it. Her success is nothing short of impressive. I am a Britney fan but far from being a blinded stan. And what in the ****in' world made you brought Thriller, Purple Rain and The Bodyguard in this thread? HAHAHA. Last time I checked there only 3 eras being talked about here. Do me a favor gurl. Don't make yourself look pitiful. Adele's success is enormous, impressive and defied laws of probability but still... ... Oops era>> 21 Era.
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You didnt even give a reason in your post to refute his comments as to why though.
What Adele has done in this day in age is nothing short of spectacular. She has the highest selling album of both 2011 and 2012; the longevity of that album is absolutely astonishing. Are you denying her success because she doesn't prance around on stage and make bubblegum pop? Oops was great, but like mentioned before, nobody is talking about that album except for ATRL stans, nobody cares about it, especially when we are comparing the aforementioned album to the success of 21. It also had the benefit of being released at the time when musicians could crap out albums and have them go 5x platinum, and even in this case, Adele still toppled her album sales in 2011. The title track sounds like a dated mess, and it has no recurrent airplay to speak of. He wasn't fuming or anything, but what he did do was argue and state his point, and you have refused to give a counterargument.
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Originally posted by Apollo21
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Honey, you just responded to posters with three long ass posts showing your anger, and you just responded to me with cuss words and "LMAO" and "HAHAHA". I'm just responding to you the way you have done to others.
There's no "meltdown" anywhere in that post. That's what you call "true tea." I've lived through all of those eras and actually know ALL of their impacts.
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Originally posted by like2throw
You didnt even give a reason in your post to refute his comments as to why though.
He wasn't fuming or anything, but what he did do was argue and state his point, and you have refused to give a counterargument.
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Why would I refute an argument that is based on hate though?  Calling someone's posts dumb and annoying is not fuming to you?  I see.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Honey, you just responded to posters with three long ass posts showing your anger, and you just responded to me with cuss words and "LMAO" and "HAHAHA". I'm just responding to you the way you have done to others.
There's no "meltdown" anywhere in that post. That's what you call "true tea." I've lived through all of those eras and actually know ALL of their impacts.
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Where is anger on my posts actually? Did I ever call someone's posts dumb?  And gurl, you take everything too personal for you to know what's the "true tea". 
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The correct answer is obviously 21. The army
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Originally posted by Katy V.!
21 is the biggest female era ever.
Its only competition may be "Jagged Little Pill" & "Come On Over"
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& The Bodyguard.
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Originally posted by Flanders
The correct answer is obviously 21. The army
& The Bodyguard.
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Some people need to stop being so biased. 
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Originally posted by the floacist
What "cultural impact" did Oops have?
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the performance that made a huge buzz ? the red suit ? the song itself ? "i'm not that innocent ?"
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Originally posted by Slayrus
the performance that made a huge buzz ? the red suit ? the song itself ? "i'm not that innocent ?"
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That is not cultural impact.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Since when? Alanis Morrisette, whose success is compared to a current-day Adele's, was from the same generation as Mariah and Britney, and she had a "bandwagon." And let's not start with the Spice Girls & the annoying boy band bandwagons we had during that time. Let's not rewrite history. Every generation has had a "fad" and artists who had bandwagons, so don't sit up here and pretend Mariah and especially Britney, who was apart of one of the biggest fads in history, were part of some glory days when they were not. They managed to outlast a lot of their peers, but that's something totally different.
And even if your theory was true, you're doing the same thing you are complaining about others doing to Mariah's and Britney's successes and downplaying what Adele has accomplished in 2011 and 2012 when sales are at an all-time low. You keep mentioning these irrelevant and dumb things, such as Adele having an advantage because of social media, when social media is just as much as a curse as it is a gift.  Fact of the matter is, while we don't know for sure how 21 will age, it doesn't change the fact that 21 was a blockbuster moment in history and will go down as one of the most successful eras in music. Plus, your guess is just as good as ours. 21 could be one of those eras people talk about in retrospect. It's pointless to even debate the whole "long-lasting" thing when the question is "What was the bigger era?".
All of that other mess you are spewing is just annoying stan talk. And your point is even more useless because ...Oops I Did Again is hardly an era people talk about on the daily. It was no Thriller, Purple Rain or The Bodyguard. It's as forgotten or looked back on as an MC Hammer era or a Taylor Dayne song, and the only people who constantly bring it up are nostalgic pop fans, Britney fans who are stuck in 1999 and pray for "pre-2007 Britney", and Britney fans who were born in 1998 and pretend that they lived through that long-forgotten era. Its singles aren't played on radio, the album itself doesn't have strong catalog sales and stopped selling right after its peak and only produced one hit people may remember but won't bother to even download from iTunes or play at parties because it's so dated and cheesy. Get a clue. 
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Of course you'd response with this long essay that I wouldn't mind to read because it's the same Britney bashing I've seen from you but w.e.
I died at the same part tbh 
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Originally posted by UnusualBoy
Of course you'd response with this long essay that I wouldn't mind to read because it's the same Britney bashing I've seen from you but w.e.
I died at the same part tbh 
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Because you know ALL of it's true, including the last part.

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Oops!
From her image to the songs, catch phrases,everyone in pop culture were mimicking.
21, a close second and basically tied with Daydream, so many covers and known songs from the two women.
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As someone who has lived through all three eras, Mariah was definitely the biggest. Then Adele follows, and Britney finishes last.
Daydream sold 25 million copies globally, certified diamond in the US, had 3 #1s (one of them still reigning as the longest running #1 on the Hot 100), and won a number of awards. Also, Mariah appealed to a broader audience with the singles, meaning she reached a wider audience. Mariah was charting top 3 on the Hot 100, Pop, R&B, and AC. Britney just Pop, Adele Hot 100, Pop, and AC.
On top of the sales and chart stats, the Daydream Tour was a success. She sold out like 3 shows at the 48,000 capacity Tokyo Dome (a STADIUM), in about 2 hours. Something Britney nor Adele have done.
21 charted well and swept the Grammys, but her audience wasn't as broad as Mariah's. And nobody remembers Ooops besides Britney fans and those who follow music. The only thing slightly memorable is the red cat suit. "Ooops" was a song, but other singles from that album like "You Drive Me Crazy" and "Outrageous" fail to be recalled.
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Originally posted by Lately 1814
21 charted well and swept the Grammys, but her audience wasn't as broad as Mariah's. And nobody remembers Ooops besides Britney fans and those who follow music. The only thing slightly memorable is the red cat suit. "Ooops" was a song, but other singles from that album like "You Drive Me Crazy" and "Outrageous" fail to be recalled.
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What in the actual ****? I am sure it's intentional since you keep misspelling "Oops!."
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