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News: Fox News: "The war on men has begun."
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It's mind boggling how a person can actually think this is true.
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Absolutely ****ing ********.
We live in a patriarchy. This is not a statement of opinion.
Indubitably, women are not treated as equals in American society--and it might be possible to say that this reigns true in every modern society.
How absurd is it to claim that there is a war against men, when in America, women, on average, are paid 77 cents for every man's dollar in equivalent positions? And how, when an American state passes a law sanctioning medically unnecessary transvaginal ultrasounds, while Viagra is still covered by medical insurance, can you claim there is a war against men? The "article" is based off of gender stereotypes, false dichotomies, and an utter disregard for the large percentage of people in America who are non-straight and non-gender-binary.
"Women aren't women anymore." What kind of misogynistic crap is this? I take it the lovely human beings at this pseudo-news station would like every woman to go back into the kitchen and make sandwiches for the husbands who picked them up and threw them over their shoulders? As if.
This is heinous, deplorable, asinine bullcrap, straight from the dysenteried rectum of a rabid, stupid, and male-chauvinistic Chihuahua. For ****s sake, how can anyone take this "news" station seriously?

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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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Originally posted by (Cole)
Absolutely ****ing ********.
We live in a patriarchy. This is not a statement of opinion.
Indubitably, women are not treated as equals in American society--and it might be possible to say that this reigns true in every modern society.
How absurd is it to claim that there is a war against men, when in America, women, on average, are paid 77 cents for every man's dollar in equivalent positions? And how, when an American state passes a law sanctioning medically unnecessary transvaginal ultrasounds, while Viagra is still covered by medical insurance, can you claim there is a war against men? The "article" is based off of gender stereotypes, false dichotomies, and an utter disregard for the large percentage of people in America who are non-straight and non-gender-binary.
"Women aren't women anymore." What misogynistic crap is this? I take it the lovely human beings at this pseudo-news station would like every woman to go back into the kitchen and make sandwiches for the husbands who picked them up and threw them over their shoulders? As if.
This is heinous, deplorable, asinine bullcrap, straight from the dysenteried rectum of a rabid, stupid, and male-chauvinistic Chihuahua. For ****s sake, how can anyone take this "news" station seriously?

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Yes drag them
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by (Cole)
Absolutely ****ing ********.
We live in a patriarchy. This is not a statement of opinion.
Indubitably, women are not treated as equals in American society--and it might be possible to say that this reigns true in every modern society.
How absurd is it to claim that there is a war against men, when in America, women, on average, are paid 77 cents for every man's dollar in equivalent positions? And how, when an American state passes a law sanctioning medically unnecessary transvaginal ultrasounds, while Viagra is still covered by medical insurance, can you claim there is a war against men? The "article" is based off of gender stereotypes, false dichotomies, and an utter disregard for the large percentage of people in America who are non-straight and non-gender-binary.
"Women aren't women anymore." What misogynistic crap is this? I take it the lovely human beings at this pseudo-news station would like every woman to go back into the kitchen and make sandwiches for the husbands who picked them up and threw them over their shoulders? As if.
This is heinous, deplorable, asinine bullcrap, straight from the dysenteried rectum of a rabid, stupid, and male-chauvinistic Chihuahua. For ****s sake, how can anyone take this "news" station seriously?

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But why was this reported?
Good post.

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Meh. Tl;dr, sounds stupid, anyway.
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Originally posted by SOTDH
Meh. Tl;dr, sounds stupid, anyway.
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You've got the gist of it. 
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by Kworb
Well excuse her for not reacting well to her life being ruined
How would you feel if the person you thought was your soul mate tells you he's not actually sexually attracted to you but only married you and started a family with you because of peer pressure.  It's like the ultimate betrayal. Sure some empathy on her part would be ideal, but it's certainly not what should be expected of her.
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That still was no excuse to for her to turn into a complete psycho and ban her from seeing HIS kids, trying to make sure he got nothing out of the divorce and basically trying to ruin his life. Nobody knew what was in his head, and the girl certainly had no right to try to destroy every aspect of his life.
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
That's one of a few very small prices men pay to be in a position of power over women. Men are perceived as being more powerful and so they are treated as such. If he abuses his power (hurting a "weak" woman), he gets punished for it.
That's not really the same issue... sounds more like homophobia than man-hating. If she did that JUST because he lied to her, that's awful of her, but it also speaks to how straight people think they have a right to know when someone's gay and crucify the closeted person for "lying" to them out of justifiable fear. So it comes back to homophobia anyway. Gay guys shouldn't get married to women and have kids under false pretenses so he deserved to get **** on, but times were different when they got married I'm sure so it's hard to guilt him for that.
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Like I said, nobody understood what was going through his mind - for the most part, he continually believed he was a straight man and couldn't admit it. It's a serious psychological disorder and shouldn't be bashed upon when there are MANY people in that posistion around the world. I honestly don't know how you can say he deserved to get **** on. 
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Member Since: 5/14/2012
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Originally posted by (Cole)
Absolutely ****ing ********.
We live in a patriarchy. This is not a statement of opinion.
Indubitably, women are not treated as equals in American society--and it might be possible to say that this reigns true in every modern society.
How absurd is it to claim that there is a war against men, when in America, women, on average, are paid 77 cents for every man's dollar in equivalent positions? And how, when an American state passes a law sanctioning medically unnecessary transvaginal ultrasounds, while Viagra is still covered by medical insurance, can you claim there is a war against men? The "article" is based off of gender stereotypes, false dichotomies, and an utter disregard for the large percentage of people in America who are non-straight and non-gender-binary.
"Women aren't women anymore." What kind of misogynistic crap is this? I take it the lovely human beings at this pseudo-news station would like every woman to go back into the kitchen and make sandwiches for the husbands who picked them up and threw them over their shoulders? As if.
This is heinous, deplorable, asinine bullcrap, straight from the dysenteried rectum of a rabid, stupid, and male-chauvinistic Chihuahua. For ****s sake, how can anyone take this "news" station seriously?

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Originally posted by Kworb
But there are two sides to every story. I know that all too well due to my own parents' divorce and what my dad's family now thinks of my mom.
I agree that being vindictive is never the answer, but it was an awful example of the male not being at fault.
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I agree. It was a ****** example.
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Originally posted by stevensaurusrex
I grew up listening to this and now I am ****ed beyond belief with anxiety issues. I think there is a correlation. Indoctrinating the so-called oppressor with self-hatred like "he deserves it because he's the evil oppressor" only causes more problems. It's like a closet form of prejudice sociology books like to ignore.
EDIT: And by NO means am I saying men are NOT guilty of the oppression of women. Clearly it's embedded in history. I'm just saying not all men are to blame. 
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Well I think that's because you were already so screwed up  You never really had a chance, do you think hearing raving feminists really caused that? No, it's because you lived around religious nuts and closet cases and never had real friends.
Okay, but number one, I didn't say I agreed with that consequence of sexism, and number two, what difference does it make? It's not like there's ONE guy that's the oppressor and everybody else just does what he says. What kind of circular logic?
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
People agreeing with this are joking, right? 
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Nope. Gender roles existed for a reason in Marriage. I'm not saying that the current dynamic is BAD, but it is definitely different. The author of the column was talking about how to get back to the previous culture of marriage.
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FOX isn't insinuating anything nutsos omg  you're all reading too much into it just to understand what you want based on that FOX and Republicans are friends therefore they're both always being mysogynistic
She's basically saying men aren't willing to tie themselves down because they don't feel dominant anymore (which, being male, is a bit true). Dominance isn't the same thing as oppression though, there always has to be a leader but that doesn't mean there needs to be a housewife in the kitchen, it just means there's an authority. There can be authority and equality, sometimes they go hand in hand.
This article is interesting and there are a few topics I agree with, based on a logical standpoint, not whether it SOUNDS like something i'd normally disagree with. Grow up and actually read something without a biased mindset, please.
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Originally posted by J03Y
FOX isn't insinuating anything nutsos omg  you're all reading too much into it just to understand what you want based on that FOX and Republicans are friends therefore they're both always being mysogynistic
She's basically saying men aren't willing to tie themselves down because they don't feel dominant anymore (which, being male, is a bit true). Dominance isn't the same thing as oppression though, there always has to be a leader but that doesn't mean there needs to be a housewife in the kitchen, it just means there's an authority.
This article is interesting and there are a few topics I agree with, based on a logical standpoint, not whether it SOUNDS like something i'd normally disagree with. Grow up and actually read something without a biased mindset, please.
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It has nothing to do with preconceived notions or biased mindsets. There's no logic to be found in the "article." Just a bunch of illogic based off of gender stereotypes, and the oh-so-typically conservative concept that all tradition is good tradition (argumentum ad antiquitam). It seems to take issue with the fact that women are actually moving along the arduous road to equality in such a stark patriarchy.
It's nice that you feel the need to resort to argumentum ad hominem when you realize you're not making any sense, and that your mindset is straight out of the 19th century.
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There can be authority and equality, sometimes they go hand in hand.
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I wholly disagree, but that's an argument for another thread.
(I find myself saying this quite often, but -- this is yet another issue with the gender binary.)
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Originally posted by (Cole)
Just a bunch of illogic based off of gender stereotypes, and the oh-so-typically conservative concept that all tradition is good tradition (argumentum ad antiquitam). It seems to take issue with the fact that women are actually moving along the arduous road to equality in such a stark patriarchy.
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Given the length of human existence, not only historically but pre-historically, and the breath of human traditions across the many diverse cultures that have developed on planet Earth, anyone making claims that one specific set of traditions covering a short time span (centuries is that, a short time span) is an abject moron and should not be listened to.
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Originally posted by J03Y
FOX isn't insinuating anything nutsos omg  you're all reading too much into it just to understand what you want based on that FOX and Republicans are friends therefore they're both always being mysogynistic
She's basically saying men aren't willing to tie themselves down because they don't feel dominant anymore (which, being male, is a bit true). Dominance isn't the same thing as oppression though, there always has to be a leader but that doesn't mean there needs to be a housewife in the kitchen, it just means there's an authority. There can be authority and equality, sometimes they go hand in hand.
This article is interesting and there are a few topics I agree with, based on a logical standpoint, not whether it SOUNDS like something i'd normally disagree with. Grow up and actually read something without a biased mindset, please.
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WTF do you mean there always has to be a leader? Leader of what, exactly? What relationship can be equal when someone designates themselves the "leader"? Your post is as full of BS as the article in the OP (which is not surprising, since you agree with it).
 to Cole for schooling these idiots on sexism.
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There can be authority and equality in a dream world. But throughout history people have shown time and time again that clearly isn't possible.
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