Originally posted by VJoker

Actors act, Singers sing and Artists create "art".
You can call singers like Lady Gaga artists but you cant call singers like Katy Perry artists.

Originally posted by RaeseanLohan

If actors don't write the scripts of the movies and plays they act in, and artist don't create the materials they draw/paint etc. with, why are singers looked down upon if they don't write the songs they sing?

Originally posted by Zoraluv

Now I'm going to have to stop you right about there.

In my mind I've always thought of musicians that write/play or at least use instruments/and can sing live well as artists

Most musicians that can't do that, I call entertainers, they do it to simply entertain. It is not an art form for them, it is a process where they as a musician sing /with help or not/ with lyrics /written by them or not/
Actors in my opinion, are the same. Very few have reached artistic level.

Art is different, it still takes skill to sit down and draw a vase, you'd still be drawing the vase from your own perspective. If everyone sat down and drew the same vase I doubt highly you'd get two of the same. Therefore stating that (an artist) not using a 'created material' or not in their personal work, is so invalid I have no where to start.

now, re-read the last sentence I just said and let it process. How many artists have taken pre-written songs and just owned it? Just used the words as a canvas to show emotion with their voice and singing ability?
Few, but I'm not here to dispute that.

Hopefully this will end this 'BUT ACTORS DON'T WRITE THEIR SCRIPT SO..SO..' bullcrap

Originally posted by VJoker

Actors act, Singers sing and Artists create "art".
You can call singers like Lady Gaga artists but you cant call singers like Katy Perry artists.

Originally posted by MadelineXPepito

You said it yourself by calling musicians per artists.
I'm going to explain how I see it, please refrain from reporting me since I've no intention to shade the singers I might mention below.

Artist is a person who creates something with a beauty factor, something that fits the current standarts and bends its borders. At the same time he/she has a personal input in the music (not neccessarily emotions as many believe). It doesn't have to be done solo, of course, there are plenty of bands who write together.

And the problem is:
Actors aren't called "artists" on daily basis. Musicians are. Everyone knows actors are performers. Sometimes the specific term "performing artist" is used and it's not an equivalent of an "artist".
On the contrary, not everyone knows that many musicians are just performers/acts. So when I hear for example "artist Rihanna" my blood boils. She is created by a team. Her music is mass produced and written by random people around the world. Her vocals are autotuned. The Rihanna we think we're listening to probably doesn't even exist, we're listening to an image of Robyn Fenty. The music might be good, but it lacks the personal element that makes an artist, that makes "Robyn" of flesh and bones. Music is mainly about self-expression, it has to contain something characteristic for the artist to be believable.

Acting is about being someone else, not being yourself, being able to play various characters and give each of them different personality. So it's even better when they have nothing to do with the script because it would be a mess. Glee is the best example of that.

And I think being able to sing doesn't make you an artist either, it isn't even a talent. It's just how your throat is built.
I've met many people with great voices, but without the ear for music (and vice versa).

(I hope it wasn't too chaotic)