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Music News: Sean Parker: "Spotify will overtake iTunes in two years"
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My question is : do artists get paid just as much, if not more than what they get paid with by other digital services such as iTunes, as dust2 suggested with an article on the last page?
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
My question is : do artists get paid just as much, if not more than what they get paid with by other digital services such as iTunes, as dust2 suggested with an article on the last page?
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Spotify pays 70% of its revenue as royalties. Itunes also pays 70%.
The record label gets a large part of that revenue. Only a small % goes to the artists. And the sad part is that the small % will be used to recoup expense before the artists see any money. But if you're an indie artist/ DIY artist, you are your own label which mean you get 70% of the revenue from Itunes/Spotify. Spotify pays about $0.005 per stream from the various sources.
http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/...-index-123111/
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Streaming Price Index : Current Streaming Pay Rates as of 12/31/11
Payable to Artist/Label via digital distributor for sales from Jul to Dec 2011 *
Zune
15,159 = $437.58 = .028 = 25:1 Itunes Song Download
Napster
30,238 = $479.07 = .016 = 43:1 Itunes Song Download
Rhapsody
50,822 = $668.57 = .013 = 53:1 Itunes Song Download
Spotify
798,783 = $4,277.39 = .005 = 140:1 Itunes Song Download
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Spotify has both free and paid, that's why it's lower than Rhapsody. If Spotify only has the paid version, it will pay out around $0.013 like Rhapsody. This is as of 10 months ago so it might be outdated already.
Spotify Financial in Europe
http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/perm...N2pVty4SEbIz9w
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Spotify 2011 financial statement
Spotify is focusing on GROWTH GROWTH GROWTH. Losing money while in the growth mode is normal. Look at Amazon. It made its first profit in 2002, many years after it first started out.
If Spotify wants to be profitable tomorrow. It can do so easily by getting rid of free users and doing business like Rhapsody. But doing so would slow Spotify growth.
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STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD YOU DAMN SPOTIFY STAN. 
Stop trying to make Spotify happen, it ain't gonna happen.
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I still haven't installed spotify...I mean, not all music is on it, right?
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But, of course, yet another thing not available in my country.
I feel like I live in the middle of nowhere, yet I live in the middle of Europe.
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Originally posted by Selina
But, of course, yet another thing not available in my country.
I feel like I live in the middle of nowhere, yet I live in the middle of Europe.
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Originally posted by Selina
But, of course, yet another thing not available in my country.
I feel like I live in the middle of nowhere, yet I live in the middle of Europe.
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Croatia?
maybe the 4.4 million population is not enough to tempt Spotify yet.
1% sign up in Croatia = 44,000.
1% in USA = 3.1 million
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/indus...07979322.story
Spotify Planning Launches in Italy, Poland and (Reportedly) Japan: What Are the Challenges?
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Japan is the world's second-largest music market, the first in physical sales and a distant second in digital sales behind the U.S. Consumer awareness of subscription services must be brutally low and Spotify would have to build the market almost entirely on its own. Only Sony's Music Unlimited service, launched in July, operates in the country. Napster Japan, the first subscription music service in the country, shut down in May 2010.
Music Unlimited has a couple strengths in the market: Japan is Sony's home base and Music Unlimited is primarily a value-added feature for Sony consumer electronics. Those factors allowed Sony to soft-launch Music Unlimited in July whereas another service would likely need to make a larger initial investment.
Mike Aragon, Vice President & General Manager, Global Digital Video and Music Services at Sony Network Entertainment, told Billboard.biz the Japan launch was "on par" with the U.S. launch. That was especially encouraging considering the service launched only with international repertoire and will add local repertoire over time, he said.
One problem -- although it's getting better -- is Japan's smartphone penetration. Only 24% of Japanese consumers owned smartphone phones in June, according to comScore (it's about twice that in the U.S., the U.K. and Sweden). Subscription services derive their value from smartphones because they charge more for mobile access. So while Music Unlimited can use Sony hardware -- PlayStation and DVD players, for example -- to make inroads, Spotify would need to either wait for smartphone penetration to increase or drive premium subscriptions through partnerships with TV and cable companies.
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It's going to be expensive in Japan.
Sony Music Unlimited cost $18.90 a month there. And they are missing a large majority of popular Japanese music. That's like launching in the USA missing the like of Katy Perry, Rihanna, Taylor Swift, Kelly Clarkson, Bruno Mars, Jay Z etc....
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My iTunes + iPod remain the best ways to enjoy my music 
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Originally posted by DOMINO
I just don't see the point in streaming music. I love to own the songs in my library but when I'm streaming a song it doesn't feel as tangible 
I will nevaaah.  |
This!!!!!
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http://www.billboard.com/news/psy-st...07982722.story
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The song registered 91% of its 457,000 on-demand streams via Spotify, with Cricket, Rdio, Rhapsody and Slacker also contributing to its total. "Never" spent three weeks atop the Hot 100 last month without the benefit of streaming points.
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Look like Spotify is the streaming king in the USA (thanks to millions of the free users).
It's #3 in term of paid subscribers (behind Rhapsody and Cricket's Muve Music).
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I think they should allow US users to purchase music on Spotify or at least have a subscription download service.
That would really heighten the competition with iTunes.
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Originally posted by zach
STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD YOU DAMN SPOTIFY STAN.
Stop trying to make Spotify happen, it ain't gonna happen. |
Except that Spotify has greatly impacted the new structure of the Hot 100. U mad?
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Originally posted by DOMINO
I just don't see the point in streaming music. I love to own the songs in my library but when I'm streaming a song it doesn't feel as tangible
I will nevaaah. |
This, all of this.
I am not here for spotify.
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Originally posted by Dust2
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YESSS 
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Originally posted by zach
STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD YOU DAMN SPOTIFY STAN.
Stop trying to make Spotify happen, it ain't gonna happen. |
:dickhead:
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Microsoft launched its version of Spotify.
Next up is Google?
http://www.techradar.com/news/intern...-rival-1108457
Google considering Spotify rival
Exec thinks model is 'viable'
Apple vs. Google vs. Amazon vs. Microsoft vs. Spotify
FIGHT!!!
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January, 2010:------------ 250,000 paid subscribers
March 17, 2010:----------- 320,000
July 20, 2010: ---------------- 500,000
December 8, 2010: ------ 750,000
March 8, 2011:--------------- 1,000,000
July 14, 2011: -----------------1,600,000
Sept 21, 2011: ---------------- 2,000,000
Nov 23, 2011: ------------------2,500,000
Jan 26, 2012: -------------------3,000,000
July 31, 2012:--------------------4,000,000
Nov 01, 2012 ----------------------------- ~4,500,000 (my guess)
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Spotify will reach 5,000,000 paying subscribers sometimes in January/February 2013. Which mean it will increase from 3 million to 5 million within 1 year.
When Spotify limits the free-version in the USA to 10 hours a month similar to Europe, its total subscribers will jump significantly.
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Just got premium yesterday. I love it.
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Deezer is coming for Spotify wigs.
Deezer has over 2,000,000 paying subscribers
Available in 160 countries
and profitable
http://www.themusicnetwork.com/music...stion-of-time/
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Len Blavatnik, chairman of Warner Music Group’s new owner Access Industries, recently ploughed $130 million of investment into Deezer. That new cash is helping Deezer push ahead with an impressive roll-out, a campaign which has pressed the company into an estimated 160 countries.
Until now, however, the France-originated access service had swerved the U.S and Japan, the former considered too crowded and the latter so-underdeveloped in streaming that Deezer would have to build the subscription market from nothing.
Deezer currently boasts more than 2 million paying subscribers worldwide, and says it has been running profitably. Its catalogue of 20 million tracks is arguably the biggest among all the legal streaming models.
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The Top 5 on-demand subscription music in the world:
Spotify: around 4,500,000 paying subscribers
Deezer: over 2,000,000 paying subscribers
MelON: 2,000,000 paying subscribers (South Korea biggest subscription service) source:
Rhapsody: over 1,000,000 paying subscribers
Muve Music: over 800,000 paying subscribers
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