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Poll: Does Lana care about her singles' success?
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Of course she cares
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18.60% |
No, it isn't a concern for her
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41.09% |
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The public isn't here for her singles, she's an album artist.
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23.26% |
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She tries, but fails to make her singles commercially successful.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by collin
This thread is messy and full of misunderstanding
The general gist was to garner opinions on the amount to which her singles are underrated.
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But then we shouldn't ask if Lana care, we should ask why the Radio Stations in US don't care.
Kworb said it is not top 40 friendly, but then I ask was RITD, Lights Gotye etc.?
Heck they played abroad artists but not their homebrew.
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Member Since: 10/17/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by collin
This thread is messy and full of misunderstanding
The general gist was to garner opinions on the amount to which her singles are underrated.
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Then you did this very wrong - people aren't mind readers: if your intention was to ask why people underrate Lana's singles, THEN ASK THAT QUESTION! If you ask whether she cares about her single's success, that is a different question altogether. This is especially true because you seem to say that you want to know posters individual opinions on Lana's singles, but then you ask a question about Lana's mindset, not the posters.
So, its your fault that this discussion isn't going the way you wanted it to because you were expecting people to answer the question you had in your mind, which wasn't the question you asked everyone else.
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Member Since: 9/7/2010
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Originally posted by rbautz
Kworb said it is not top 40 friendly, but then I ask was RITD, Lights Gotye etc.?
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Not this again.  Albany Guest, you're very smart member, so can you please reply to this post too?
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Member Since: 8/28/2011
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I'm sure she 'cares' but I'm not sure she 'cares' enough to actually prostitute herself by cynically writing a song that has all the ingredients of the archetypical #1 single. And let's be honest she's THAT good a songwriter that if this is what she wanted to do it would have been done by now. But she's in the enviable position of not having to sweat on whether any single she releases will be a hit in order to sell her album - her album is selling by the bucket load WITHOUT any hit singles. And we all know there's more money (and, arguably, longevity) in albums.
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Member Since: 4/28/2012
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Of course she cares about her singles, however, not in the sense of racking up huge sales, but in terms of exploring her aesthetic and providing great aural pleasure to her fans.
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Member Since: 4/28/2012
Posts: 1,659
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Originally posted by Sra.Berryman
How is her sound "indie"?
Indie is not a sound
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Depends. When people say "indie" they could literally mean music from an independent label; or they could mean music with an alternative/non-pop sound (i.e. Green Day, Oasis, Blur, various other bands).
Lana may not be on an independent label but her music veers away from the mainstream, as does her image. Of course whether this is who she really is, or whether it's just a marketing strategy, can be debated. Personally I like to believe she is genuine.
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Member Since: 12/22/2007
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Sadly she doesn't care that much.
She just likes making music, writing it, recording it and then filming videos.
She doesn't even like performing it that much.
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Member Since: 5/7/2011
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Originally posted by Phoenix83
Depends. When people say "indie" they could literally mean music from an independent label; or they could mean music with an alternative/non-pop sound (i.e. Green Day, Oasis, Blur, various other bands).
Lana may not be on an independent label but her music veers away from the mainstream, as does her image. Of course whether this is who she really is, or whether it's just a marketing strategy, can be debated. Personally I like to believe she is genuine.
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Non of them are indie.
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Member Since: 8/28/2011
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Originally posted by Sra.Berryman
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So Oasis aren't 'indie' based on your personal definition of the word??
Edit: Are you REALLY a Cheryl fan or did you put that there to prompt a response?
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Originally posted by Euromillions
So Oasis aren't 'indie' based on your personal definition of the word??
Edit: Are you REALLY a Cheryl fan or did you put that there to prompt a response?
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Is there anything wrong about liking someone who can entertain on a stage more than 90% of the artists out there?
Indie: Independent music (often shortened to indie music or indie) is music produced independently from major commercial record labels or their subsidiaries, a process that may include an autonomous, Do-It-Yourself approach to recording and publishing. While the term indie is sometimes used wrong as if it were a music genre, independent music artists do not fall into a single, defined musical style or genre and usually create music that can be categorized into other genres.
Is Melanie C an indie artist? Yes, she is. Are Coldplay an indie band? No, they aren't.
It is not my fault if you just can't understand what indie means.
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Member Since: 8/28/2011
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Originally posted by Sra.Berryman
Is there anything wrong about liking someone who can entertain on a stage more than 90% of the artists out there?
Indie: Independent music (often shortened to indie music or indie) is music produced independently from major commercial record labels or their subsidiaries, a process that may include an autonomous, Do-It-Yourself approach to recording and publishing. While the term indie is sometimes used wrong as if it were a music genre, independent music artists do not fall into a single, defined musical style or genre and usually create music that can be categorized into other genres.
Is Melanie C an indie artist? Yes, she is. Are Coldplay an indie band? No, they aren't.
It is not my fault if you just can't understand what indie means.
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I note you don't quote the source for the quoted definition so I will. It's wikipedia. Hardly the last word in authority, is it? There are of course 000s of definitions on the web that state 'indie' is a genre of music but as they are about as authoritative as Wiki I won't quote them. Basically, there is no really authoritative definition of the word so of course it also isn't my fault you don't know the meaning of it...
PS Sorry about the Cheryl bit, I genuinely thought you were joking. 
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Member Since: 5/7/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Euromillions
I note you don't quote the source for the quoted definition so I will. It's wikipedia. Hardly the last word in authority, is it? There are of course 000s of definitions on the web that state 'indie' is a genre of music but as they are about as authoritative as Wiki I won't quote them. Basically, there is no really authoritative definition of the word so of course it also isn't my fault you don't know the meaning of it...
PS Sorry about the Cheryl bit, I genuinely thought you were joking. 
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God, that's what indie is, simple. So what if it's wikipedia? it's the right definition.
There aren't 1000 definitions, it isn't a musical genre, simple because it is not a sound it's a way of making music. You can be an indie artist and make pop music and you can be an indie artist and make folk music... their sound is completely different, their influences are totally different but they're both indie artists.
How is that difficult to understand, HOW?
There are a lot of indie artists that use a big record label to just distribute their music and that's it... that's not Lana's case.
P.D: Why would I joke about Cheryl and her amazing performances? I LOVE/ADORE this woman... how many wish they could perform like her. Do you think it's ilogical to like Cheryl, The Temper Trap, Sigur Rós and MGMT all at once?
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Member Since: 10/17/2011
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Originally posted by Euromillions
I note you don't quote the source for the quoted definition so I will. It's wikipedia. Hardly the last word in authority, is it? There are of course 000s of definitions on the web that state 'indie' is a genre of music but as they are about as authoritative as Wiki I won't quote them. Basically, there is no really authoritative definition of the word so of course it also isn't my fault you don't know the meaning of it...
PS Sorry about the Cheryl bit, I genuinely thought you were joking. 
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Feel free to quote any of those sources, so the rest of us can compare them to Wiki, which, even though it might not be "authoritative", at least has crowd-sourced editing, which is FAR more than can be said about most sources.
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
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Yes, she cares about her singles and their success.
That's why she keeps making overlong, convoluted music videos to support them.
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Member Since: 4/28/2012
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Originally posted by Sra.Berryman
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I think you're taking too linear a definition of what indie is.
We both know that Lana's music is alternative sounding which is why it's been described as indie by many. Who cares if she is actually on an independent label. 
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
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Of course she does. Or she wouldn't keep releasing them 
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
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Clearly not.
She sells albums, not singles.
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
Yes, she cares about her singles and their success.
That's why she keeps making overlong, convoluted music videos to support them.
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She made videos for non singles. 
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
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Originally posted by conseeded
Of course she does. Or she wouldn't keep releasing them 
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Her label releases them. Not her. 
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Member Since: 3/13/2012
Posts: 5,802
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No, she doesn't care. She's more concerned about her album & music videos. Aside from you haters are all peasants, I don't even think she's cares that much about chart success, stats or competing sales with other artists.
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