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Poll: Does Lana care about her singles' success?
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Of course she cares
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No, it isn't a concern for her
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41.09% |
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The public isn't here for her singles, she's an album artist.
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23.26% |
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She tries, but fails to make her singles commercially successful.
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Member Since: 11/21/2010
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Lana makes baroque pop , dream pop, sad core with trip hop influences which are sub genre of indie rock.
And that is indie. 
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Uhm, do you guys even know who Lana Del Rey is? She's changed her image so many times to make it big so of course now that she's kind of famous she's loving it. She's on a major record label, so of course she cares. She has to care, otherwise she'll get dropped.
She'll have to get a big hit soon because the niche market she appeals to is very fickle and she needs something to fall back on when the hipsters decide she's too mainstream for their tastes.
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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Originally posted by Pop pop123
Lana makes baroque pop , dream pop, sad core with trip hop influences which are sub genre of indie rock.
And that is indie. 
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Indie is short for independent. She is signed to possibly the biggest record label in the world.
She is not indie. She is a pop artist. Goodbye.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by LDYGG
Uhm, do you guys even know who Lana Del Rey is? She's changed her image so many times to make it big so of course now that she's kind of famous she's loving it. She's on a major record label, so of course she cares. She has to care, otherwise she'll get dropped.
She'll have to get a big hit soon because the niche market she appeals to is very fickle and she needs something to fall back on when the hipsters decide she's too mainstream for their tastes.
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She is today number 13 on the world singles I-tunes cart. Interscope will not drop her, are you insane.
She is a "Gesamtkunstwerk" not focued on singles but sell singles WW. It doesn't matter that much that she doesn't sell millions of singles in northern america.
Like one (indie) artist Morrissey once said " America is not the world"
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Member Since: 5/7/2011
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Originally posted by Pop pop123
There is no particular indie sound that because it can be indie rock, indie pop, alternative etc.
The artists you mentioned are independent artist that does not determine the way their music will sound like.
Nicolas makes electronic music.
Indie means independent but it's also a sub genre. Just like pop as a sound and popular music.
Would U consider Lollipop by Lil wayne pop considering it was very "popular" or Eminem a pop artist because he's popular?
Cheryl Cole horrible music must have stunned your thought process.
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I know what music Nicolas does and what his record label is (aka, his own record label), that's why I put him as an example of indie artist... unlike you, since you needed to check it out before replaying to my post.
How mature of you the comment about Cheryl LOL, is there anything wrong in liking one of the best performers around at the moment?
Those examples  you clearly don't understand what you're talking about or you just don't want to understand it. If you want to come up with a new meaning for indie then go ahead, but don't expect the rest of us to say you're right.
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Member Since: 9/7/2010
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Originally posted by Stevie
And to answer the poll, she tries to be commercially successful but she fails at it. If she wasn't trying to be commercially successful and it wasn't a concern for her, then she wouldn't be on Interscope.
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By having 3rd best selling album of 2012? Is that what you call failing? You sound so upset. I've been checking your posts in this thread, and you sound really upset. Why is that? Is the fact that Lana is still succeeding by doing something different from the rest makes you upset ? Maybe the fact that her album outsold those albums who had #1 smash hit singles and huge airplay hits?
And are you really gonna try to convince me that Lana's Gaga pop? Rihanna pop? Katy pop? Ke$ha pop? Are are you really gonna try to convince me that Lana's music and singles are made for Top 40 radio? Do you know how standard pop song sounds?
Lana isn't your typical pop girl. Just because she's on the same label as Gaga doesn't give you right to label her as pure pop. Just because she's on Interscope, doesn't mean she completely sold her soul. She can still have artistic freedom.
And since her album is doing well, I don't think she has to worry about being dropped.
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Originally posted by Sammi
By having 3rd best selling album of 2012? Is that what you call failing? You sound so upset. I've been checking your posts in this thread, and you sound really upset. Why is that? Is the fact that Lana is still succeeding by doing something different from the rest makes you upset ? Maybe the fact that her album outsold those albums who had #1 smash hit singles and huge airplay hits?
And are you really gonna try to convince me that Lana's Gaga pop? Rihanna pop? Katy pop? Ke$ha pop? Are are you really gonna try to convince me that Lana's music and singles are made for Top 40 radio? Do you know how standard pop song sounds?
Lana isn't your typical pop girl. Just because she's on the same label as Gaga doesn't give you right to label her as pure pop. Just because she's on Interscope, doesn't mean she completely sold her soul. She can still have artistic freedom.
And since her album is doing well, I don't think she has to worry about being dropped.
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First of all, you're the one that sounds upset. Not me. Let's get that straight.
Second of all, this is about single success. Not albums. Therefore, whether she has the third best selling album or not of 2012 is irrelevant.
And I never said she is in danger of being dropped. I also never said her music is the same type of pop as some of those girls you listed. However, she is still a pop artist. Her album is pop music.
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Member Since: 3/19/2012
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It's not a concern for her right now but it will be in the future. She got lucky with Born To Die, her next albums will not have the same longevity.
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Member Since: 5/10/2012
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No, bc she's too busy selling albums lbr.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by Tainted Blood
It's not a concern for her right now but it will be in the future. She got lucky with Born To Die, her next albums will not have the same longevity.
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The sound of the Paradise EP has changed opposite to Born To Die.
But what happened, all the fans are in awe by the new sound. Says a lot of the capabilities
of her.
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Member Since: 9/7/2010
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Originally posted by Stevie
First of all, you're the one that sounds upset. Not me. Let's get that straight.
Second of all, this is about single success. Not albums. Therefore, whether she has the third best selling album or not of 2012 is irrelevant.
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No.
It's not irrelevant at all. Singles are made to sell albums, and her album is selling. Simple as that. She obviously isn't and has no reason to be concerned.
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I am sometimes amazed at some of the notions this site has about business. Labels, especially big labels, sign artists because they plan to make money off them - an "artist" may not care about their commercial success, but their paychecks come from the label, and the label certainly does very much care about making money. Now, as for Lana, she has done well in selling albums, so the label is probably happy with their investment, and clearly they are trying to create a specific property with her image, which is the only reason I can assume for why they bankroll long videos like the one for Ride, or why they jazz it up by setting up special screenings and the like.
Lana's single, despite what the OP claims, are nowhere near as catchy as Adele's singles, so I don't think she was ever going to have huge single success with those kinds of songs, but if the label thinks one of her songs might have a shot at being big, they sure as hell would push for it and pay for radio play and the like, and that would NOT be just Lana's decision.
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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Originally posted by Sammi
No.
It's not irrelevant at all. Singles are made to sell albums, and her album is selling. Simple as that. She obviously isn't and has no reason to be concerned.
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But that's not what this thread topic is about, check the title.
Good for her. Her album is selling. But her singles are not doing too hot. Simple as that.

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Originally posted by Albany Guest
I am sometimes amazed at some of the notions this site has about business. Labels, especially big labels, sign artists because they plan to make money off them - an "artist" may not care about their commercial success, but their paychecks come from the label, and the label certainly does very much care about making money. Now, as for Lana, she has done well in selling albums, so the label is probably happy with their investment, and clearly they are trying to create a specific property with her image, which is the only reason I can assume for why they bankroll long videos like the one for Ride, or why they jazz it up by setting up special screenings and the like.
Lana's single, despite what the OP claims, are nowhere near as catchy as Adele's singles, so I don't think she was ever going to have huge single success with those kinds of songs, but if the label thinks one of her songs might have a shot at being big, they sure as hell would push for it and pay for radio play and the like, and that would NOT be just Lana's decision.
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Educate them.
The things people are saying in this thread are a mess.
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Member Since: 9/7/2010
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Originally posted by Albany Guest
I am sometimes amazed at some of the notions this site has about business. Labels, especially big labels, sign artists because they plan to make money off them - an "artist" may not care about their commercial success, but their paychecks come from the label, and the label certainly does very much care about making money. Now, as for Lana, she has done well in selling albums, so the label is probably happy with their investment, and clearly they are trying to create a specific property with her image, which is the only reason I can assume for why they bankroll long videos like the one for Ride, or why they jazz it up by setting up special screenings and the like.
Lana's single, despite what the OP claims, are nowhere near as catchy as Adele's singles, so I don't think she was ever going to have huge single success with those kinds of songs, but if the label thinks one of her songs might have a shot at being big, they sure as hell would push for it and pay for radio play and the like, and that would NOT be just Lana's decision.
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Member Since: 1/14/2012
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There's no way she's going for single success, she's an albums artist
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Originally posted by Albany Guest
I am sometimes amazed at some of the notions this site has about business. Labels, especially big labels, sign artists because they plan to make money off them - an "artist" may not care about their commercial success, but their paychecks come from the label, and the label certainly does very much care about making money. Now, as for Lana, she has done well in selling albums, so the label is probably happy with their investment, and clearly they are trying to create a specific property with her image, which is the only reason I can assume for why they bankroll long videos like the one for Ride, or why they jazz it up by setting up special screenings and the like.
Lana's single, despite what the OP claims, are nowhere near as catchy as Adele's singles, so I don't think she was ever going to have huge single success with those kinds of songs, but if the label thinks one of her songs might have a shot at being big, they sure as hell would push for it and pay for radio play and the like, and that would NOT be just Lana's decision.
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I made the thread to garner opinions, and you are also giving me your opinions here.
I think Lana's songs are WAY better than Adele's. That's just my thought process.
Plus, the image is there too - this completely outweighs Adele's "classy" image, tbh.
I am aware that Lana was signed because she was supposed to make money for the label.
But I also think that the singles have gone unnecessarily unnoticed.
They have much more smash potential than what they have been given.
I would have to agree with you that her albums are doing the trick.
This is why I created the thread, specifically. Some people argue that her singles should be bigger.
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Member Since: 4/13/2012
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I'm sure if she actually cared they would be getting more than the amount of success they are now
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Member Since: 2/13/2012
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This thread is messy and full of misunderstanding
The general gist was to garner opinions on the amount to which her singles are underrated.
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Member Since: 6/18/2012
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Originally posted by Bahjat
Of course she does.
She may not be obsessed with getting hits, but obviously every artist cares about their singles/albums' success.
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this . thanks
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