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Fan Base: Archived: Kelly Clarkson (#1)
Member Since: 4/23/2012
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I don't want the base to be completely empty if the hive goes in on us 
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
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Anyway, I don't think the metacritic score of Stronger is acceptable
Only 11 reviews were included, while 4 has 36 reviews
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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What is its metacritic score? Edit: anyway, I just checked. I think 62% is quite acceptable though.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by Addicted
Stronger has much better production, just listen to songs like You Love Me and compare them to BTINH. Bleh trashy. Bey should have stolen some better hits. She's supposed to be the biggest star in world according to the Beyhive and she can barely scrape a top 20 on a lead single with some of the biggest hype surrounding her "pregnancy"... Her album's barely scraped by, yes it's sold more than Kelly but Kelly is not a huge album seller. Stronger WILL hit platinum this year and it will be a lot more remembered than 4.
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So you compare a mediocre Kelly song to the worst produced song from 4. And how is that fair? Why can't you compare it to RTW? Oh wait, cuz the production for RTW is amazing even if it's a ****** song. End of Time? Flawless. Love on Top? Perfection. Kelly has only a handful where her songs are completely polished. TWIO, WDKY and a couple more. The rest of the songs are amateurly done.
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Originally posted by Addicted
Now we know damn well those writing credits are a lie, for a Beyonce fan to even bring up writing credits  |
I really don't know what is up with your reading skills today but MissBreakaway was asking for production credits and that is what I posted. Not writing credits. Mistakes like this are what makes Kelly and her stans draggable. Tighten that up before you step into SYG again.
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
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Originally posted by MissBreakaway
What is its metacritic score?
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http://www.metacritic.com/music
Metacritic collects critics' reviews and scores, and then makes average scores
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by lifeofpariah
Anyway, I don't think the metacritic score of Stronger is acceptable
Only 11 reviews were included, while 4 has 36 reviews
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Despite Addicted biased opinion, 4 was more anticipated that Stronger. Beyonce has more star power than Kelly. 4 is a better, more cohesive album than Stronger. He may hate on Beyonce all he wants and say it will be forgotten, but it will go down in history as one of the best releases in 2011 with proof, whereas Stronger will go down in history as nothing but the album that produced that one hit single, What Doesn't Kill You.
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Member Since: 6/29/2012
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I don't care how much more successful 4 is, Stronger is superior.  I take quality over quantity. I like Beyonce too so I'm not shading her.
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Member Since: 11/26/2011
Posts: 6,033
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Wtf is with base this past week? its a mess. anyhoo, ill post the cover rates later on today incase anyone is wondering
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Member Since: 1/27/2012
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Originally posted by Addicted
it's dis fing were alberms get ratud on how gud they r by critocs n stuf, also flims like my nw flim pert of me in 3d
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Not Kety Perr. 
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Member Since: 1/27/2012
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Originally posted by vonno
Wtf is with base this past week? its a mess. anyhoo, ill post the cover rates later on today incase anyone is wondering
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The only normal/reasonable person left. 
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by Addicted
YLM is great, plus written by Kelly, flawless. 
Yes RTW production is great, I wonder who made it originally. Oh wait yeah.....
4 has no potential singles, it's an album of RnB filler, take your seat with the rest of the hive.
Also I frequent SYG a lot and defend Kelly, you should stick to NHB where you're best, I think you've got a good week left before it closes.
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Writing credits...that's all you seem to be bringing up. I never said a single word about it. And whatever great lyrics Kelly has come up with, they are offset by some terrible lyrics as well.
Diplo made the original track years and years ago but Beyonce was the one who revamped it up and chose that track instead of a newer track that Diplo created for her.
4 had potential singles. RTW was a horrible lead single and that set off a whole chain reaction.
I defend Kelly too, especially against Beyonce, but your arguments are literally the same stale shade that the relevant hives don't even care to comment on. Writing credits are cute to interject with every once in a while but to continuously rat that off along with the whole bleach argument? Jesus.
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Originally posted by rivers
I don't care how much more successful 4 is, Stronger is superior. I take quality over quantity. I like Beyonce too so I'm not shading her. |
4 has the quality and the quantity.
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Member Since: 11/26/2011
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Originally posted by jpsketch
The only normal/reasonable person left. |
Ill be back in 8hours, bedtime 
Wonder if Kelly will tweet 4 more times 
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
Posts: 3,895
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Despite Addicted biased opinion, 4 was more anticipated that Stronger. Beyonce has more star power than Kelly. 4 is a better, more cohesive album than Stronger. He may hate on Beyonce all he wants and say it will be forgotten, but it will go down in history as one of the best releases in 2011 with proof, whereas Stronger will go down in history as nothing but the album that produced that one hit single, What Doesn't Kill You. |
Well at least it will go down in history as something 
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
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Originally posted by vonno
Ill be back in 8hours, bedtime
Wonder if Kelly will tweet 4 more times |
NOOOO, Only rate results can save this mess
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Member Since: 8/17/2011
Posts: 8,032
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I hate hate hate to say it but 4 is def a better album. It took me a long time to finally accept it but its completely true. 4 is a complete body of work. Beyonce clearly worked hard on it and made a real and mature RnB album that was amazing and cohesive.
I will be the first to say that Beyonce wheels and deals for writing and production credits but I will also admit that she has a knack for making great melodies and arranging songs to make it completely her own. She can't write for **** but she has an amazing musical ear. Not only that but 4 showed growth and maturity. Something that Stronger didn't have enough of.
I still prefer Stronger though and listen to it more but thats mostly because I'm a stan. The fact that I can still listen to 4 and it still sounds fresh for me says alot about the material also.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by MissBreakaway
Well at least it will go down in history as something |
I can't at the unintentional shade. 
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by JClarkSTAN
I hate hate hate to say it but 4 is def a better album. It took me a long time to finally accept it but its completely true. 4 is a complete body of work. Beyonce clearly worked hard on it and made a real and mature RnB album that was amazing and cohesive.
I will be the first to say that Beyonce wheels and deals for writing and production credits but I will also admit that she has a knack for making great melodies and arranging songs to make it completely her own. She can't write for **** but she has an amazing musical ear. Not only that but 4 showed growth and maturity. Something that Stronger didn't have enough of.
I still prefer Stronger though and listen to it more but thats mostly because I'm a stan. The fact that I can still listen to 4 and it still sounds fresh for me says alot about the material also.
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THANK YOU!
I dissed 4 every way possible when it came out but I gave it a chance and it grew on me immensely. I had every reason to hate it. It contended with Rihanna and Kelly but some of the songs are pure magic, and most importantly, as JClark has said, 4 showed growth which was clearly lacking on Stronger. The best songs on stronger were the ones that Kelly didn't write to be honest.
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Member Since: 8/17/2011
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
THANK YOU!
I dissed 4 every way possible when it came out but I gave it a chance and it grew on me immensely. I had every reason to hate it. It contended with Rihanna and Kelly but some of the songs are pure magic, and most importantly, as JClark has said, 4 showed growth which was clearly lacking on Stronger. The best songs on stronger were the ones that Kelly didn't write to be honest. |
Yea I got so much life from her initial flopage like everyone else and I dragged RTW to hell and back but even I couldn't deny that the album was quality stuff. It even put Beyonce into my top 15 most played artists on LastFm.
I do think if Kelly actually worked with A-List producers extremely closely, wrote with them, and pushed herself vocally the way she has been doing lately on her covers then she would be able to put out an even more amazing album than 4.
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Member Since: 1/27/2012
Posts: 15,057
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Not Gareth bringing up the word dated when trying to defend Stronger.
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Member Since: 10/16/2011
Posts: 2,642
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Originally posted by Addicted
What's up with everyone today, y'all so moody. You should take note from Kelly and go on a HAPPY HAPPY TWITTER SPREE 
Diplo's part was the only good part in RTW, there's a reason it flopped.
4 had no top 10 worthy singles, they are all dated filler. Also I never said I cared about whether the hive want to comment on my opinions? Otherwise i'd be posting in their thread instead of the KELLY CLARKSON Base thread. I never mentioned bleach either 
Now please get back on the topic of Kelly Clarkson, we're not here for the other one. |
YESSSS!!! lets HAPPY HAPPY DANCE!!! moves your body
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