I mean we have Gaga really pulling in these big numbers and such in tours, and she's probably going to rack in $100m from it. But it will not get those kind of numbers without heavy promotion, millions of dollars spent in advertising, multiple radio deals, multiple music videos. However, we're not going further about Lady Gaga, so I give her credit for her success

In retrospect to Gaga, we have Adele literally doing nothing to promote and is about to sell 25 million off 21 by the end of the year. And most likely, she's going to end up earning most of the music royalties since her album is recorded on low budget productions, and there was literally no promotion going on for it aside for the occasional interviews and such. Even on an interview once with her manager, they said that Adele doesn't need to tour because she's that successful.

On the other hand, King Buble just sold close to 7 million with his Christmas album by also literally, doing nothing to promote it aside from the Christmas special he did on NBC, and low budget music videos. Crazy Love was also successful, selling more than 7 million copies worldwide. And then there is his tour that grossed $160.3 million, and he earned $70 million from it after all bills has been paid. That's a 44% profit share And to add to that, his tours are quite low budget. All he needs is his amazing band and his mic.

I mean nowadays, popstars are lucky to sell a million copies, and yet we have artists like Adele and Buble selling 5 million like it's nothing. What do you guys think?

i think it depends on the artist. i mean, there are other people in that genre keep in mind, and they aren't doing so well. for one thing Adele has racked up three consecutive #1s and Michael Buble is, well, Michael Buble. very few artists in general, let alone in their genre, are successful like them.

That's true, but I'm kind of talking about how fast and how feasible is it to get profits. I mean you have Gaga pulling all these numbers, but they've got a HUGE list of bills to pay before the label, and before Gaga is even paid.

But i would be rather know worldwide as a impactful and iconic popstar than some random singer. Its not about the profit, its about your image, fans, drama, the high budget. Thats what separates Buble from Usher etc.

Go away, I'm not talking about impact I'm talking about profits. And you're crazy. Michael Buble is far more global and far more iconic than Usher will ever be. Buble owns Europe, literally. So please don't take this conversation out of context.

It depends . In terms of album sales yes. In terms of touring probably not.

Adele and Buble have the nation as their stanbase.

well it's still the same deal, profits depend on how big you are, how well the audience knows you. that's usually how it is.

Please read carefully before you make an assumption that will make you look well umm..

Any success in a genre that appeals to adults will get you massive album sales with little promotion. Adults are less fickle/demanding, have more money and are less likely to get the album illegaly.

By appealing to adults mostly, Céline and Barbra sold millions upon millions of albums only by promoting their music, without resorting to controversy or made-up drama.

Usher and high-budget? GIRL.

They're not pop stars. It works for Michael. He's a consistent seller (his last studio album outsold Bieber's last studio album and his Christmas album outsold Bieber's as well, which speaks volumes.) He's also become a touring artist, which is where the money's at. Adele's a one era wonder until proven otherwise (also, she doesn't have touring on her side.)

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Same deal, but I'm talking about feasibility of profits, and how easy it is to earn profits with artists like Adele and Buble. Low budget with high profits, vs High Budget with high profits. Which one would you prefer?

Probably. Low overhead and strong sales generally does equate to more profitable.

Right? Like I mean. I don't get how kids today think media hype = profit all the time. It doesn't work that way all the time..


And noooo Not the Adele drag. But I can see where you're coming from though.

I think successful pop stars get more money in the end because they get more lucrative endorsement deals and they can pursue other lucrative business ventures. Successful AC stars usually get most of their money from just their music.

Adele's 21 is possibly the last Blockbuster.

Why is it so? Because the new streaming providers will kill CD and legal downloads. (In Swede and Korea almost the whole market is streaming)

If you want to make money in the showbiz you need radio support and streaming to launch big Tours.

In touring lies the money. (In the 70 80th. you cold see a star live for the price of a vinyl, try that today)

Nope at all. Only a few in the genre are really successful. Adele and Buble may make it seem the genre are meant to be profitable, but they are the King and the Queen for God's sake, the elite few

Usher and Michael Buble are targetted at different audiences. With young people Usher is more famous and iconic, with the older generations Michael Buble is.

I think hip hop must be pretty profitable aswell. Some rappers are seriously LOADED. I think that genre opens up the doors to lots of money-making oppotunities, like starting a record label and advertising and stuff like that, which I'm not sure you get doing what Adele, etc. do.

oh THAT'S what you meant

well, low budget seems to be what attracts people lately, it's fresh and new voices that seem to garner high profits, but that's in every genre, not just theirs. and simply put, they're low profile artists and their interest factor is in how well you can relate to their music.

I think you just proved my point. Pop stars are turning into endorsement deals, and 360 deals because they music career can't generate as much money. But even with endorsement deals, you'd need to be Michael Jackson to have that kind of money.

I'm sure Adele and Buble has some nice endorsement deals under the table too. Which I will look up in Google now..