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Chart Listings: iTunes Discussion Thread (August 2011 - July 2013)
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Originally posted by Tsuko
I agree, although I think it'll be alternative dominating for the next few years, rather than urban.
Dance-pop is certainly slowly on it's way out now, that's for sure. It's telling that the biggest dance-pop song of the year is seen as a "guilty pleasure" to most people. And the airplay of Where Have You Been and Scream being so high, but them selling so little digitally, reminds me a lot of back around 2007 time when a lot of urban songs used to get really high airplay, and nobody would buy them, and eventually pop radio just gave up on the genre.
11. Little Big Town - Pontoon
12. Alex Clare - Too Close
13. Maroon 5 - One More Night
15. Jason Mraz - I Won't Give Up
16. Neon Trees - Everybody Talks
17. Jason Aldean - Take a Little Ride
18. Carrie Underwood - Blown Away
19. Maroon 5 - Payphone
20. Hunter Hayes - Wanted
21. Gotye- Somebody That I Used to Know
I think alternative/adult contemporary will be the next style that dominates tbh. I was looking at the pop radio chart today, and it's looking increasinly more and more like it's an adult contemporary chart...
And I also saw an article on Billboard that they're going to try and cross more alternative songs over to pop radio soon.
This also reminds me of the late 90's/early 00's with all that teen-pop that was around, and all the boy and girl groups, and everybody got fed up and wanted more mature music. I think the same is about to happen again in the next few years.
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Originally posted by Tsuko
I agree, although I think it'll be alternative dominating for the next few years, rather than urban.
Dance-pop is certainly slowly on it's way out now, that's for sure. It's telling that the biggest dance-pop song of the year is seen as a "guilty pleasure" to most people. And the airplay of Where Have You Been and Scream being so high, but them selling so little digitally, reminds me a lot of back around 2007 time when a lot of urban songs used to get really high airplay, and nobody would buy them, and eventually pop radio just gave up on the genre.
11. Little Big Town - Pontoon
12. Alex Clare - Too Close
13. Maroon 5 - One More Night
15. Jason Mraz - I Won't Give Up
16. Neon Trees - Everybody Talks
17. Jason Aldean - Take a Little Ride
18. Carrie Underwood - Blown Away
19. Maroon 5 - Payphone
20. Hunter Hayes - Wanted
21. Gotye- Somebody That I Used to Know
I think alternative/adult contemporary will be the next style that dominates tbh. I was looking at the pop radio chart today, and it's looking increasinly more and more like it's an adult contemporary chart...
And I also saw an article on Billboard that they're going to try and cross more alternative songs over to pop radio soon.
This also reminds me of the late 90's/early 00's with all that teen-pop that was around, and all the boy and girl groups, and everybody got fed up and wanted more mature music. I think the same is about to happen again in the next few years.
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The airplay that WAY and STIUTK got were very circumstantial. Pop doesn't seem to be programming anything else. Grouplove is getting very lukewarm updates, and they are not touching "Little Talks," "Ho Hey" or "Burn It Down." Not to mention, what Top 40 is doing to "Some Nights" is a crime, considering they have broken through on the format.
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146. Psy - Gangnam Style

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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
The airplay that WAY and STIUTK got were very circumstantial. Pop doesn't seem to be programming anything else. Grouplove is getting very lukewarm updates, and they are not touching "Little Talks," "Ho Hey" or "Burn It Down." Not to mention, what Top 40 is doing to "Some Nights" is a crime, considering they have broken through on the format.
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Burn It Down by Linkin Park is getting way more pop airplay than any hip hop or R&B song at the moment. Even ones like Work Hard Play Hard, which are very pop-friendly, are getting less pop airplay than Burn It Down. And this is just the beginning aswell. I reckon in 12 months time it'll be more evident.
Urban radio are just as bad in some ways though. Let's be honest, if songs like Too Close or As Long As You Love Me were by black singers, they would be doing well on urban right now.
I agree that what pop radio is doing to Some Nights is horrible though, but basically, to me it seems clear that it will be alternative and/or adult contemporary that dominates during 2015-2020 or whatever. Those styles of music are on the up now, they're crossing over to pop more and more easily as time goes on. It's the complete opposite story with urban music.
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Originally posted by Tsuko
Burn It Down by Linkin Park is getting way more pop airplay than any hip hop or R&B song at the moment. Even ones like Work Hard Play Hard, which are very pop-friendly, are getting less pop airplay than Burn It Down. And this is just the beginning aswell. I reckon in 12 months time it'll be more evident.
Urban radio are just as bad in some ways though. Let's be honest, if songs like Too Close or As Long As You Love Me were by black singers, they would be doing well on urban right now.
I agree that what pop radio is doing to Some Nights is horrible though, but basically, to me it seems clear that it will be alternative and/or adult contemporary that dominates during 2015-2020 or whatever. Those styles of music are on the up now, they're crossing over to pop more and more easily as time goes on. It's the complete opposite story with urban music.
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I'm gonna be honest with you, I've never heard Atlanta's pop station play Wiz Khalifa, even as a feature. With Payphone and 5 O'Clock, they only played the versions without him. They did the same thing with E.T. They played the original instead of the Kanye Remix.
Also, alternative songs crossover more often than you think. It's just that often enough, the genre produces a lot of one hit wonders that not even their home format will pay attention to after they crossover. Shinedown and Kings of Leon are recent examples.
Oddly, "Some Nights" topped Alternative Songs. I wasn't expecting it to, considering how they've treated FTP's singles since PUK crossed over.
And Alternative is flat out refusing to play Gotye's "Eyes Wide Open" too... 
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Originally posted by Lukitoo
146. Psy - Gangnam Style

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People are commenting on his music video for this song, calling him the "Asian LMFAO" 
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
I'm gonna be honest with you, I've never heard Atlanta's pop station play Wiz Khalifa, even as a feature. With Payphone and 5 O'Clock, they only played the versions without him. They did the same thing with E.T. They played the original instead of the Kanye Remix.
Also, alternative songs crossover more often than you think. It's just that often enough, the genre produces a lot of one hit wonders that not even their home format will pay attention to after they crossover. Shinedown and Kings of Leon are recent examples.
Oddly, "Some Nights" topped Alternative Songs. I wasn't expecting it to, considering how they've treated FTP's singles since PUK crossed over.
And Alternative is flat out refusing to play Gotye's "Eyes Wide Open" too... 
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Shinedown and Kings of Leon are One Hit Wonders?
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Originally posted by KMKinCB
Shinedown and Kings of Leon are One Hit Wonders?
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Well, KoL, not so much in a technical sense. They managed to peak at 37 with Radioactive. Also, "Sex On Fire" went Platinum, despite peaking only at 56.
Shinedown are, but just barely. "If You Only Knew" peaked at 42. Just two spots away from disqualifying them of the OHW title. 
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Somebody should post TSI positions  I wanna see how's doing
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Well, KoL, not so much in a technical sense. They managed to peak at 37 with Radioactive. Also, "Sex On Fire" went Platinum, despite peaking only at 56.
Shinedown are, but just barely. "If You Only Knew" peaked at 42. Just two spots away from disqualifying them of the OHW title. 
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Maybe Chart wise but I hear I Dare You on the Radio more than Second Chance. So I don't think Shinedown is a one hit wonder.
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In my country, Use Somebody was very big, but Sex on Fire was a MASSIVE hit (it had similar chart success to Poker Face and I Gotta Feeling), so I wouldn't consider Kings of Leon one-hit wonders, although I definitely can see why someone in the US would.
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Originally posted by Tsuko
In my country, Use Somebody was very big, but Sex on Fire was a MASSIVE hit (it had similar chart success to Poker Face and I Gotta Feeling), so I wouldn't consider Kings of Leon one-hit wonders, although I definitely can see why someone in the US would.
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An artist can be a one hit wonder in the US, but be huge in the UK. Oasis is technically one with "Wonderwall", if you consider that they only had one hit on the Hot 100. However, they had a handful of hits that were airplay only singles that were not allowed to chart back then.
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Originally posted by KMKinCB
Maybe Chart wise but I hear I Dare You on the Radio more than Second Chance. So I don't think Shinedown is a one hit wonder.
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I hear "If I Only Knew" on my local radio station a lot, but... it's not really representative.
A lot of One Hit Wonders have various caveats. A lot of front-people are considered one hit wonders if they have a hit apart from their main group. Amy Lee and Hayley Williams are considered, because of their songs with Seether and B.o.B. respectively.
I think Ryan Tedder was one because of his song with Far East Movement.
And then again, some people don't consider features to be hits for the featured artist. M.I.A. technically isn't a OHW because of GMAYL, but she sorta qualifies.
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Originally posted by UnusualBoy
Somebody should post TSI positions  I wanna see how's doing
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Edit: Never mind I found, these hoes are only talking about radio.
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#26 Germany
#30 Switzerland
#33 Nicaragua
#37 Latvia
#42 Austria
#49 Honduras
#52 Guatemala
#60 Venezuela
#65 Sweden
#69 Spain
#70 Denmark
#70 Italy
#87 Bulgaria
#107 Colombia
#173 Ecuador
#177 Brazil
#185 Netherlands
#205 Hungary
#217 Czech Republic
#255 Lithuania
#266 Panama
#298 Slovakia
#307 New Zealand
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It's doing better than BH.
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Originally posted by UnusualBoy
Edit: Never mind I found, these hoes are only talking about radio.
It's doing better than BH.
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I don't know how to pull up that information... 
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So When Mariah Releases her single on itunes, if one buys the tracks seperately, assuming the remix and rick ross version are on the same single-album, will that count for 2 buys of the single or would that situation combined the sale as one?
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So When Mariah Releases her single on itunes, if one buys the tracks seperately, assuming the remix and rick ross version are on the same single-album, will that count for 2 buys of the single or would that situation combined the sale as one?
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if a person buys the remixed and rick ross versions separately, those will count as two sales.
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