This is one of my favourite lyrical tricks by Taylor, moving effortlessly between the figurative and the literal. Another great example: he's got a one-hand feel on the steering wheel, the other on my heart. The suggestive pause right before she says 'heart' gives me life as well.
Liar. These lyrics gave you life, not them.
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Just a boy in a Chevy truck
That had a tendency of gettin' stuck
On backroads at night
And I was right there beside him all summer long
And then the time we woke up to find that summer gone
Gaga has written every single song and a lot of her songs have nothing to do with Love. Adele does write her songs as well but are mostly about Love. Also, Avril writes all of her own music and not all of it's about love.
I think the difference at least for me is that while 21 was all about love it was written very differently, maturely and written very metaphorically. Taylor writes very descriptive and literal(nothing wrong with that) and she still writes from the perspective of a love sick teenager. I think people's problem is that she still writes about love from the perspective of a teenager.
It's not like all of Taylor's music is about love .. yes , most of it but not all .
Same goes to all of those artists . the difference is that Taylor doesn't write about 'sex' .
( P,s those artists co-write mostly and not write by themselves )
Taylor wrote her debut when she was 13-14-15-16 ( maybe even 12 )
Fearless when she was 16-17-18
Speak Now when she was 16 ( one track ) 18-19-20 .
So she barely wrote a full album without being a teenager .
And an artist as old as Avril releasing '' What the Hell '' is obviously more underwhelming than Taylor's lyrics at her age .
This is one of my favourite lyrical tricks by Taylor, moving effortlessly between the figurative and the literal. Another great example: he's got a one-hand feel on the steering wheel, the other on my heart. The suggestive pause right before she says 'heart' gives me life as well.
I still can't with her first single at age 16 referencing anal sex.
Sparks Fly
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The way you move is like a full on rainstorm
And I'm a house of cards
You're the kind of reckless
That should send me runnin'
But I kinda know that I won't get far
And you stood there in front of me
Just close enough to touch
Close enough to hope you couldn't see
What I was thinking of
Drop everything now
Meet me in the pouring rain
Kiss me on the sidewalk
Take away the pain
'cause I see sparks fly whenever you smile
Get me with those green eyes, baby, as the lights go down
Give me something that'll haunt me when you're not around
'cause I see sparks fly whenever you smile
My mind forgets to remind me
You're a bad idea
You touch me once and it's really something,
You find I'm even better than you imagined I would be.
I'm on my guard for the rest of the world
But with you I know it's no good
And I could wait patiently but I really wish you would...
Drop everything now
Meet me in the pouring rain
Kiss me on the sidewalk
Take away the pain
'cause I see sparks fly whenever you smile
Get me with those green eyes, baby, as the lights go down
Give me something that'll haunt me when you're not around
'cause I see sparks fly whenever you smile
I run my fingers through your hair and watch the lights go wild.
Just keep on keeping your eyes on me, it's just wrong enough to make it feel right.
And lead me up the staircase
Won't you whisper soft and slow?
I'm captivated by you, baby, like a firework show.
Drop everything now,
Meet me in the pouring rain,
Kiss me on the sidewalk,
Take away the pain
'cause I see sparks fly whenever you smile.
Get me with those green eyes, baby, as the lights go down
Give me something that'll haunt me when you're not around
'cause I see sparks fly whenever you smile
And the sparks fly...
Oh, baby, smile...
And the sparks fly...
Kama Sutra level of lovemaking at 19 (or 17?). Amazingness.
Wait, what? Taylor's music is completely FILLED with metaphors. What are you talking about?
With Gaga at the very least, every producer she's ever worked with say that she already comes in with 95% of the song and that the producer re-arranges things here and there every now and then and Gaga is very generous in giving them writing credits when often times they may contribute a word or two. Also producers are much more important and integral to pop music than country music by design.
Yes, like the metaphors you listed above she does use them but they are very simplistic. I've never read/heard Taylor write on the same level as a song like RITD. Katy Perry also writes metaphorically but they are widely panned such as "do you ever feel like a plastic bag". Taylor isn't that bad but I don't think it's the same level as an artist like Gaga or Adele in terms of use of metaphors. Country artists are more well known for being descriptive and being rather simple and easy to understand metaphorically. There's nothing wrong with that since I listen to and enjoy country music.
With Gaga at the very least, every producer she's ever worked with say that she already comes in with 95% of the song and that the producer re-arranges things here and there every now and then and Gaga is very generous in giving them writing credits when often times they may contribute a word or two. Also producers are much more important and integral to pop music than country music by design.
Yes, like the metaphors you listed above she does use them but they are very simplistic. I've never read/heard Taylor write on the same level as a song like RITD. Katy Perry also writes metaphorically but they are widely panned such as "do you ever feel like a plastic bag". Taylor isn't that bad but I don't think it's the same level as an artist like Gaga or Adele in terms of use of metaphors. Country artists are more well known for being descriptive and being rather simple and easy to understand metaphorically. There's nothing wrong with that since I listen to and enjoy country music.
Hm....
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You made a rebel of a careless man’s careful daughter
Listened to Adele & Joanne music. Well, we can agree on disagree on who used the better metaphors.
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Originally posted by Great Username
"Give me something that will haunt me when you're not around"
"Just keep on keeping your eyes on me, it's just wrong enough to make it feel right. And lead me up the staircase."
Listened to Adele & Joanne music. Well, we can agree on disagree on who used the better metaphors.
How is that a metaphor?
Anyway, I'm not saying she's a bad songwriter. In fact I think she's one of the best, if not the best, in the industry. I just think that there are other artists who make more clever and eloquent metaphors and I found Taylor's to be more simple.
I personally find lyrics such as:
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Throw your soul through every open door, count your blessing to find what you look for, turn my sorrows into treasured gold You pay me back in kind and reap just what you sow
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But I Set Fire to the rain, watch it pour as I touch your face. Well it burned while I cried cause I heard it screamed out your name, your name
I set fire to the rain and I threw us into the flames. Where it felt something die cause I knew it was the last time, last time.
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We are not just art for Michaelangelo to carve. He can't rewrite the agro of my furied heart. I'll wait on mountain tops in Paris Cold. Je ne veux pas mourir toute seule( I don't want to die alone)
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Starry night come inside me like never before. Don't forget me as I come crying to heavens door. I will fly on a challenger across the sky like a phoenix so you can remind them of the dream I bore.
Those lyrics, I find to be deeper than things Taylor has written. However, it's all a matter of opinion and I think it'd be better to end this discussion since it's an opinion that can't be proven either way.
4 songs don't talk about love .. you forgot long live .
Absolutely not, Long Live was written for fans but the underlying message IS love: 'I had the time of my life fighting dragons with you'
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Speak Now is anything but cheesy , the lyrics are VERY well-written ..
No, they're not. It's easily the WORST song on SN, lyrically. Smart lines don't mean much if the overall message is about 'interrupting a wedding'. Too...fantasy-land.
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And you can't criticize Sparks Fly , even though she wrote it at an early age , the lyrics are sharply written . '' The way you move is like a full on a rainstorm and I'm a house of cards ''
I didn't criticize Sparks Fly........
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The Story Of Us is only over-rated between some of the fans but it has one of the best written lines on the album .
I like the song, just not the way people overrated it because it was the worst single of the SN era.
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'' Just eww '' this song is probably the second best-written song on the album .
Maybe you can't relate to it yet because you're too young . you'll grow up and feel it someday.
Too young? No, I don't see how a song that is written for GIRLS is gonna influence me....there is only ONE good line in that entire song and it's 'I just realized everything I have is someday gonna be gone.' and even that seems borderline naive - like she's discovering, at 18-19, that things don't last forever.
If you want a truly well-written, unisex (not just for girls) song about the nostalgia of past times and how time flies, I highly recommend Kenny's 'Don't Blink': Best start putting first things first, 'cos when your hourglass runs out of sand, can't flip it over, start again. Take every breath God gives you for what it's worth.
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Excuse me but when you actually want to criticize the music , you don't talk about who it's written about . Innocent has great lyrics that are carefully written .
Well, many people laughed at her attempt of an 'apology' at the VMAs - I actually thought that song was mature and witty and I still do. I'm just saying Kanye didn't deserve it.
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And Long Live has some cheesy words in it but overall doesn't not count as a cheesy song at all.
Yes it does, clearly. 'I had the time of my live fighting dragons with you' lol that's like 14 year old writing about rainbows and smiles and happiness.
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About '' love lyrics ''
1. Taylor writes about her experiences in life , you CAN'T force her to change her way of living just so people get satisfied . she writes the truth she feels .
I didn't say she was obliged to, she can write anything she wants - but don't expect her to ride that wave of success forever because when things are overused they tend to become boring. If in 10 years she's still writing love songs like now...I don't see how that's revolutionary. She's 6 years into her career and some of the songs on Speak Now still evoke that cheesiness from when she was 16 (at the time, however, it was perfectly acceptable, now it's just overused).
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2. Which artist doesn't sing about love ? Taylor writes her own lyrics , and she gets picked on while other artists liiiike all of the ones in your signature have most of their songs about LOVE and written by someone else but yet get praised by people . why? I don't know .
This is my favorite quote ever. All the artists? Gimme a break Just as an example, Avril Lavigne wrote or co-write ALL her songs on ALL her albums, they are not ONLY about love (you need to go listen to Under My Skin). She got appraise because she was truly innovative at the time and her album content changed every time she released a new one (Let Go was her debut, very sk8ter girl-ish, punk, etc...then UMS came - depressing, teenage angst, then TBDT shook it all up - bratty, schoolgirl, immature (she was tbh, but it worked) - and then GL (a more mature hybrid).
Also, Gaga's BTW had songs about EVERYTHING, with tons of different music styles. Most of the songs weren't about love, they were about being yourself. Even TEoGlory, which in a way related to Avril's 'Slipped Away' (both artists wrote their songs about their grandfather who passed away) is deeper than any subject matter Taylor has written about in a released album.
With Taylor, ALL her 3 albums are just love, love, love, love from start to finish with some exceptions like Breathe, Mean, The Best Day, etc. but very scarcely.
I want her to innovate, risk things, show a different side - not reuse the love potion.
Anyway, I'm not saying she's a bad songwriter. In fact I think she's one of the best, if not the best, in the industry. I just think that there are other artists who make more clever and eloquent metaphors and I found Taylor's to be more simple.
I personally find lyrics such as:
Those lyrics, I find to be deeper than things Taylor has written. However, it's all a matter of opinion and I think it'd be better to end this discussion since it's an opinion that can't be proven either way.
I personally don't. Maybe it's because they don't write things that I find deep. And I don't expect them to reach Joy Division's level of 'deep' lyrics (go listen to "Atrocity Exhibition" for example).
They are just at the same level of Taylor for me.
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Originally posted by touchofmyhand
Can someone explain how Tim McGraw references anal sex? I don't see it
Here you go:
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Just a boy in a Chevy truck, that had a tendency of gettin' stuck on backroads at night
I personally don't. Maybe it's because they don't write things that I find deep. And I don't expect them to reach Joy Division's level of 'deep' lyrics (go listen to "Atrocity Exhibition" for example).
They are just at the same level of Taylor for me.
Here you go:
Of course there are much deeper artists out there, personally I think there are deeper out there than Joy Division but they're good. I was speaking in the realms of pop and the artists on the persons signature.