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Poll: Loud VS Born This Way: most successful era?
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'Loud' Era
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63.84% |
'Born This Way' Era
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36.16% |
Member Since: 8/27/2011
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
99 shows against 39 shows
And, by the way, that's The Monster Ball
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Member Since: 8/27/2011
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Originally posted by DG1
Album Sales: Gaga
Single Sales: Rihanna
Tour: Gaga
Critical Acclaim: Gaga
Impact: Gaga
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Originally posted by rihannabiggestfan
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Which was exactly the Loud Era cultural impact? The red hair?
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Loud just really solidified Rihanna as one of the biggest WW pop stars of our generation. It really proved that she is a force to be reckoned with. Her most successful tour, HUGE singles, great album sales, AOTY award nomination, magazine covers coming out of her ass, endorsements everywhere, etc.
AND, the era was cut short. TTT was released practically one year after Loud.
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Originally posted by rihannabiggestfan
Album sales: Both, but mostly Rihanna
Singles sales: Rihanna
Critical acclaim: Rihanna, Gaga close.
Tour: Rihanna, by far (WW)
Radio: Rihanna.
Videos: Rihanna
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Tours aren't irreleavnt (in this thread). If they weren't, does that mean that MDNA is one of the biggest eras for a female artist ever?
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Member Since: 12/19/2011
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Originally posted by dinorel
"The edge of glory" is just a moderate successful song, not a smash
and "You and I" was just a local hit, it underperformed outside the US:
Australia #14
Austria #8
Belgium #4
Brazil #19
Canada #10
France #98
Germany #21
Hungary #24
Ireland #32
Italy #19
Japan #8
Netherlands #83
NZ #5
Slovakia #18
Switzerland #32
UK #23
US #6
as you can see, it was out of top 10 on most countries, and even out of top 20 and top 40 on a bunch of countries.
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Can you please stop?? The Edge Of Glory already sold 5 million worldwide
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Originally posted by HausOfJabril
Well then TF(M)/GGGB
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Originally posted by Rigalo
And in any event The Fame + Monster versus any other era would be unfair considering that was two put together.
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Originally posted by MrBillyBrhtd
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What are you laughing at? He's right
I don't know about albums but BTW had far more critical acclaim AND impact than Loud.
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at the end of the BTW Ball the final numbers will kill everyone's opinion on this thread ! BTW for me even though Loud was Successful !
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Originally posted by ElectricFrancis
According to Musicharts, it already reached it
And it's undeniable that Rihanna's singles did better than Gaga's, but at least Gaga got a 8m+ seller
And the tours make the eras. If the tour is has a massive success, then the complete era smashed all over the world.
But still, the Loud era was more successful, as Rihanna boost her star power.
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Nope, tours make the artists' bank accounts, but you can still have a successful era with NO tour. And this thread is about the bigger era, we all know Gaga has more money on her bank account than Rihanna but we're not here for that.
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BTW critical acclaim:
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71/100 on Metacritic, based on 31 reviews
Born This Way was included in several year-end lists by music critics and publications. Rolling Stone magazine, in their list of the "50 Best Albums of 2011", ranked it at sixth place, writing "none of Gaga's previous exercises in musical plussizing prepared us for this kind of anything-goes extravagance". The Guardian, in their list of the best albums of 2011, listed Born This Way at 31st. Slant Magazine ranked the album as the third best of 2011 in their list of "The 25 Best Albums of 2011", calling it a "magnum opus", and describing it as a "sincere ode to the bedazzled hearts of outsiders past and present". Furthermore, MTV ranked it as the tenth best album of 2011, claiming it is the "first multi-national, multi-hyphenate, multi-sexual pop album of our time", and called it "her grandest mission statement to date". About.com listed Born This Way as the second top pop album of 2011, claiming it is a "pop landmark" and a "wild rollercoaster ride of music". Claiming that through the album, Gaga "thinks pop can still move policy, and she might be right", and describing the record as the "biggest pop album" of 2011, Spin listed Born This Way as the 29th best album of the year, as well as the best pop album of the year. Digital Spy included Born This Way in their "25 Best Albums of 2011" list, at fifth place, while the Daily Record ranked it at seventeenth out of twenty, commenting on Gaga having gone "full-scale European underground electro disco". Aside from critic polls, the album received Grammy Award nominations for the 54th Grammy Awards in 2012, including Album of the Year, Best Pop Album and Best Pop Solo Performance (for her song "You and I"). Being her third consecutive Grammy nomination for Album of the Year, Gaga is the first artist since British rock band The Beatles to receive three consecutive nominations in the category. Additionally, the album was nominated in the category of Favorite Pop/Rock Album at the American Music Awards of 2011, losing to Adele's 21. However, Born This Way beat out 21 at the 38th People's Choice Awards, taking home Favorite Album. At the Japan Gold Disc Awards Born This Way won International Album of the Year and Western Album of the Year. In 2012, Rolling Stones called Born This Way the 11th greatest album of all time by a female artist. The album was ranked number 1 on NME magazine's list of the The 10 Most Pretentious Albums Ever, but still received a very positive review (8/10).
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Call me when Loud gets that
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Honestly, negative or positive, people around me all know what is Born This Way but they only know the hits on LOUD, like S&M and Whats My Name. A few don't even know Rihanna got an album named LOUD. I am being very serious. Im talking about those general music listeners, they don't care much and only listen to the hits. But all of them know Born This Way era, either they love or hate it. The cultural IMPACT of BTW is HUGE !
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Originally posted by rihannafan
Tours aren't irreleavnt (in this thread). If they weren't, does that mean that MDNA is one of the biggest eras for a female artist ever?
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This!
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Loud obviously.
Man Down's impact > BTW's
#fact
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Originally posted by coolcristobal
Can you please stop?? The Edge Of Glory already sold 5 million worldwide
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
BTW critical acclaim:
Call me when Loud gets a quarter of that
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Tiny Mix tapes or something gave BTW an 0 and it still got 71
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Originally posted by LONGWAY2GO.
Would you mind me borrowing your crystal ball?
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LOUD has a slight edge over BTW in single and album sales. However, BTW's tour will be in the top 10 grossing tours of all time. Rihanna grossed 90 million from her tour overall. Gaga has already grossed 70 million from Asia and Australia alone and she has yet to tour Europe, South America, North America, or Africa.
To answer the OP's question it depends on how you look at it. Rihanna had more succesful single and videos. Gaga surpassed her in tour sales. They are tied for Album sales but BTW is still selling a slight amount. BTW was also more succesful than any single off LOUD and I think the songs statement/message is more culturally relevant and important than any single off of LOUD.
Personaly, I vote for it's about the same. Getting great single sales but bad/decent album sales means you make good songs for the public but don't have a lot of fans. Having decent/bad single sales but great album/touring sales means you have a strong dedicate fanbase but limited appeal to the general public. Gaga nor Rihanna are quite at either of those extremes but succesful singles as well as strong album & touring #'s are important and neither side can discredit single, album, or touring sales.
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Singles : Loud.
Album sales : Born This Way but Loud is not far,clearly.BTW has outsold Loud by like 200-300k I guess and was out for half year less,but since 400k of it come from the Amazon deal,gap isn't much.
YouTube views (not that they're a very relevant factor) : Rihanna.
Tour : Ignoring the total projected gross and going by average per show,Gaga's average is most likely to be 2.5-3m,whereas Loud tour's was just around 1 million,so BTW wins by faaaaaar.
Acclaim : Going by the Metacritic score,BTW wins.
So Born This Way.
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by HausOfJabril
What are you laughing at? He's right
I don't know about albums but BTW had far more critical acclaim AND impact than Loud.
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More critical acclaim=4 more points on metacritic??????
Both albums had AOTY nom on Grammys
The one that won 1 grammy was Loud with OG
The impact of every album is obvious!!!!!!
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