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Discussion: Why Didn't UK love Britney's Femme Fatale Era?
Member Since: 10/8/2009
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Originally posted by нαυѕσƒנα¢к
She's lost so much public appeal in the UK since her X-Factor performance in 2008, the backlash she received for miming has rendered her a complete joke over there, along with her team ****ing up her releases, radios refusing to play her music anymore (HIAM was the only song that received some airplay support, mostly from first week hype) and doing zero promotion there bar a few interviews months into the era for the Femme Fatale Tour!
I'm praying her team concentrates next era on her image and appeal in the UK, make the public support and buy her music again, make radios play her new music, proper releases as the UK is a completely different market, actual promotion, etc... |
Thankyou.
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Originally posted by CaptainMusic
And the 'Femme Fatale is not a good album' reason is stupid as well, YOU don't speak for everyone and most people in the UK didn't even get to hear it due to once again the lack of promo. FF is no worse of an album than Teenage Dream & BTW anyway yet they did much better there so i'm not understanding the logic. Some people on this site....i swear....  |
I've never understood why people use the 'the album is terrible' line. The quality does not matter at all, unless it's so bad that there isn't a good first single on there. Which in this case isn't the true.
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 Kylie has never been a huge album seller. She had a lot of longevity through her career, though.
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Kylie has never been a huge album seller. She had a lot of longevity through her career, though. |
You obviously don't understand.
The point is that Kylie's album sales in the UK are absolutely fine and it has always been and remains one of her biggest markets, so just because her albums weren't going 10x Plat like some back in the day and Loud for example has outsold her biggest album here doesn't mean she was never a big force here.
Another example is the most successful girl group of all time, The Spice Girls, who were still CLEARLY massive here as well when they were on their second album yet like i said before it only went 5x Platinum, the same goes for other local teen-pop acts like Steps and S Club 7 who were extremely popular at the time and their album sales may not necessarily look amazing compared to other acts but you'd be crazy to say they were never big here. Just saying....
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Kylie has never been a huge album seller. She had a lot of longevity through her career, though. |
So I guess Spice Girls' Spice World, Kylie Minogue's Fever, Madonna's Confession on a Dancefloor, Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway and Rihanna's Girl Gone Bad weren't strong selling albums since apparently 4x platinum albums aren't good sellers in the UK?
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Originally posted by Monroe
So I guess Spice Girls' Spice World, Kylie Minogue's Fever, Madonna's Confession on a Dancefloor, Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway and Rihanna's Girl Gone Bad weren't strong selling albums since apparently 4x platinum albums aren't good sellers in the UK? |
If you also look at the UK album sales of most Teen-pop acts, whether local or international, at the time Britney's are much better or along the lines of the rest of them. Just look at how Xtina's, Nsync and Backstreet Boy's biggest albums performed in the UK.....
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Originally posted by YSL
This thread is a mess. Just a few things that need to be pointed out.
1. Just because it was one of the best selling albums of 2011, doesn't mean it sold well. It means it had little to no competition with Adele doing amazingly well and Gaga doing moderately. 1.5 million WW is not exactly something worth bragging about. As far as the UK goes, it wasn't even in the Top 20 best selling albums of 2011.
2. Britney didn't have radio support? I Wanna Go was her biggest radio hit to date, what the hell do you mean she didn't have radio support. And if you're talking about the UK charts only, then airplay is irrelevant since the UK Singles Chart doesn't take airplay into account. Just say her sales were weak and she had no promo.
3. Her selling out 8 shows in London during the Circus tour and grossing less > being unable to sell out one or two shows with a higher gross. The reason why she made more money for her shows during the Femme Fatale is because the prices were absurdly high + meet and greets. Because this thread is not about sales but about why the UK isn't here for her, attendance is much more important than how much she grossed.
4. To the one who brought up the how much she made this past year....Britney doesn't just solely get her money from her music ventures alone. She makes a ton of money from her perfume sales and other endorsements as most do. People like J.Lo and Gaga weren't too far behind and had little to no tour dates.
5. Lastly, to answer the question, Femme Fatale is simply not a good album. The UK didn't love the era because they didn't love the album. Britney is a big enough name to pull in people to buy it without severe promo, just like Madonna, who's clearly doing very well in the UK with major ticket sales (I don't know if I can say the same for her album sales though, I haven't seen what they're like over there). If a veteran like Madonna can do well, so can a younger veteran who's still considered to rival the major pop girls now. |
This. 
But wow, the mods are so biased. I can't believe you got a WP for this post. 
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The UK is schizophrenic. People love you and hate you within the space of a year, people are so OTT here. Also if radio 1 and capital didn't hammer her, she's going NOWHERE. Ask Alexandra Burke that. They control the charts. As her lead single was a hit, it proves there is demand. If it didn't chart or enter itunes then we should be worried. If she did big global promo next album, all reality shows (ie Xfactor) and some awards she'd be huge again selling around 5m albums WW at least.
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Originally posted by CaptainMusic
And the 'Femme Fatale is not a good album' reason is stupid as well, YOU don't speak for everyone and most people in the UK didn't even get to hear it due to once again the lack of promo. FF is no worse of an album than Teenage Dream & BTW anyway yet they did much better there so i'm not understanding the logic. Some people on this site....i swear.... |
I think we all know with or without promo, BTW and especially TD would slay FF anyway. Of course i can't speak for everyone but FF is one of her worst albums and sales spoke for itself.  You just have to accept UK was not here for her.Actually the whole world.  You cant help that. Promote as much as you can, it cant help. Like all that promo couldnt save GMAYL or MTN from flopping.
And yes i stan for both, Gaga and Katy. They can be promo *****s Thats not something bad. Theyd rather be promo *****s than being lifeless, dull robots. Cause i know they care about their fans more than Britney does.  Its not 2003 anymore Britney stans, face the truth. 
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Originally posted by SixWholeYears
I think we all know with or without promo, BTW and especially TD would slay FF anyway. Of course i can't speak for everyone but FF is one of her worst albums and sales spoke for itself. You just have to accept UK was not here for her.Actually the whole world. You cant help that. Promote as much as you can, it cant help. Like all that promo couldnt save GMAYL or MTN from flopping.
And yes i stan for both, Gaga and Katy. They can be promo *****s Thats not something bad. Theyd rather be promo *****s than being lifeless, dull robots. Cause i know they care about their fans more than Britney does. Its not 2003 anymore Britney stans, face the truth. |
I wouldn't mind seeing someone's second album sold more than someone's seventh album. 
if she didn't care about her fans, then she shouldn't release Criminal as 4th from the album where fans voted for it on facebook :P
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Since Circus era, the UK hasn't supported her as much as they used to..
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Originally posted by SixWholeYears
I think we all know with or without promo, BTW and especially TD would slay FF anyway. |
But their sales would be MUCH lower and that's obvious. My god you are so delusional. 
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Of course i can't speak for everyone
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I'm glad you know.
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Actually the whole world.
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Speak for yourself.
The FF era and its singles did well in several parts of the word.
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You cant help that. Promote as much as you can, it cant help.
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Of course It can help that.How hard is it to understand?
THAT is the whole reason for promotion to get your work out there and once again interest and make people WANT to buy the album.If it didn't help, why the hell do artists do it and why is it that when artists do it they see an increase? Please, by all means tell me.
Like in the US, Katy performed at the Grammys TWICE during the Teenage Dream Era along with American Idol which together add up to around 100 million views, which is more promo and exposure that Britney's done and gotten since 2004..., you really don't think those performances had an effect on the sales?
Or what about Katy performing on the X Factor TWICE during the era and other numerous talk shows, did they not help her sales and success in the UK a lot?
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Like all that promo couldnt save GMAYL or MTN from flopping.
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Those are completely different cases. 
Saying promoting won't help is just ridiculous. Anyone with a brain would know that only doing 10 promotional performances (and in the UK's case just 1) in the past 9 years and 3 (5 including GH:MP & SC) would know that it would have a big affect on the sales. It's not rocket science.
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Member Since: 12/7/2010
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She lipsynced at the X Factor with Womanizer performance few years earlier. Also, lack of promo.
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Member Since: 4/25/2011
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
Nope.
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Idk but the UK wasn't feeling Britney last era.
But it wasn't a "flop" elsewhere
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Member Since: 8/17/2011
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Originally posted by CaptainMusic
But their sales would be MUCH lower and that's obvious. My god you are so delusional.
I'm glad you know.
Speak for yourself.
The FF era and its singles did well in several parts of the word.
Of course It can help that.How hard is it to understand?
THAT is the whole reason for promotion to get your work out there and once again interest and make people WANT to buy the album.If it didn't help, why the hell do artists do it and why is it that when artists do it they see an increase? Please, by all means tell me.
Like in the US, Katy performed at the Grammys TWICE during the Teenage Dream Era along with American Idol which together add up to around 100 million views, which is more promo and exposure that Britney's done and gotten since 2004..., you really don't think those performances had an effect on the sales?
Or what about Katy performing on the X Factor TWICE during the era and other numerous talk shows, did they not help her sales and success in the UK a lot?
Those are completely different cases.
Saying promoting won't help is just ridiculous. Anyone with a brain would know that only doing 10 promotional performances (and in the UK's case just 1) in the past 9 years and 3 (5 including GH:MP & SC) would know that it would have a big affect on the sales. It's not rocket science. |
You really dont want to understand, right? I'm not saying promo means nothing. I'm just saying it plays a small role for a huge star like Britney. 
And Britney stans coming with lack of promo excuse annoys me. You just have to understand that people may not be here for her. She had radio support, IWG being her biggest radio hit and TTWE was quite big. Did they affect on sales? No. Did 3 promotional shows in US help sales? No. If thats US's case, UK would be even worse with or without promo. Since US is her main market. And @ you thinking MTN and GMAYL are different cases. They were examples for how promo can flop too.
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