Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction It's not like you would have brought anything new to the table that somebody else hasn't already said.

Originally posted by Addicted I mean TEOG is ridiculed and dragged to the pits for being a terrible video, being boring, so many jokes have come from it. Dark Side was just a love it or hate it video, just because you hate it there is no reason to try and pass off this false tea that TEOG is better, it just makes y'all look pressed tbh. #webadumad

I'm pressed yet who are the ones who's calling TEOG a worse song that DS? I'm telling lies yet who's the one saying it was shot on an iPhone?

#clapback

Originally posted by jpsketch Ugh, this is a mess. I like Gaga. I like Kelly. They both **** on faves. They both have flop aspects. Can't we just end this discussion?

It becomes rather tedious and repetitive when certain people randomly start attacking a fav in a different base, isn't it?

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction It becomes rather tedious and repetitive when certain people randomly start attacking a fav in a different base, isn't it?

Originally posted by MJ Boston Agreed that Demi is incredibly talented.

Originally posted by Chivas This thread these past few weeks

Originally posted by Mzd No need for that rest of that stuff, only thing that matters Glad you see the light

Also, to the stans that constantly feel the need to trash Kelly to prove their points:


Y'all can be so negative. Don't need that crap.

Originally posted by MJ Boston I guess I'll go out on a limb here and assume that, again, you're referring to me since I brought this up. I didn't "attack" Gaga. I was commenting back because I disagreed that her videos are amazing. Some of them, yes, they are. This was all in context to a potential Kelly/Gaga collab, so it wasn't like it was that off topic or anything. We all have our opinions and that's all it really boils down to. I like Gaga a lot and have consistently said she's very talented. You were the one that took it much further and, again, slammed Kelly in the process of preaching how much better you feel TEOG video is. And I like you Edge, but what's more tedious and repetitive is when you start attacking Kelly in her own base, IMO. Plenty of things are said in every base about multiple artists. They're all in the industry and thus comparisons will always be made.

Fine. This time you didn't 'attack.' You were just being antagonistic. Does that word suit you better? And there was no 'slamming' on Kelly on my part. I only re-hashed what I originally said about Dark Side and the most I came to 'slamming' Kelly was by saying her outfit was cheap looking, which many of you and the rest of ATRL has agreed upon at one point, and that the video was boring, which I have always said and still believe.

TEOG is by far the superior song. This isn't an opinion. This is fact, agreed upon by the stans, GP and critics. Me saying TEOG video is better than Dark Side is an opinion, based on what I expect from a MV.

And me being critical of Kelly is not equivalent of 'slamming' or 'attacking.' It means I wish she wasn't as closed minded as she usually is. Musically and lyrically, the Stronger era remains stagnant. I am hoping she progresses away from this sound and usual 'angry' and 'empowerment' lyrics. Image wise, she has grown immensely and I am very pleased so far. I hope she maintains this growth and doesn't recede into another My December which leads to another unpromoted AIEW.

Originally posted by Mzd You know what they say, when a bunch of girls spend a lot of time together they PMS together.... We are all synced up right now

Let me get off this cycle. I feel like I've been over-bleeding recently.

Originally posted by DejaVu A few things to note. A Demi / Kelly duet would be terrible, remain album filler, and no one but 5 year olds would be here for it. The Edge of Glory video and Song is better than Dark Side. Critics agree. Dark Side is a better song than Mr Know It All, but it's video its inferior to Mr. Know it All. The DS video is just really really boring, cliche and uneventful. Even when the song becomes a hit, it's playcount will remain at zero.

Demi/Kelly: I am indifferent at this point. I think I'd prefer a Jojo/Kelly at this point.

TEOG: Always there to speak the truth.

DS vs MKIA: It's a toss up for me but MKIA still hasn't grown old for me while DS already has. I can't seem to ***** it out like I did/do with WDKY. WDKY and DS are songs in the same vein with a soft melody building up to a crashing chorus. And if I had to choose between those two songs, I'd go with WDKY. MKIA remains unbothered and fresh sounding even after all this time.

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction And me being critical of Kelly is not equivalent of 'slamming' or 'attacking.' It means I wish she wasn't as closed minded as she usually is. Musically and lyrically, the Stronger era remains stagnant. I am hoping she progresses away from this sound and usual 'angry' and 'empowerment' lyrics. Image wise, she has grown immensely and I am very pleased so far. I hope she maintains this growth and doesn't recede into another My December which leads to another unpromoted AIEW. Let me get off this cycle. I feel like I've been over-bleeding recently.

Originally posted by Addicted So can we finally stop this discussion, we've established alongside everyone who ever watched TEOG video that Dark Side is the superior video. The Edge Of Gloryholes will have to take a seat in the comedy section. Now let's move on to more pressing issues, arguing about promo, sales and possible duets.

Originally posted by MJ Boston I don't want to continue this debate at all, I just don't get y'all saying "critics agree" that TEOG is superior as a song and MV. If there are any direct comparisons between the two songs from a critic, please point me in that direction. Both songs were given positive critical reviews and I have seen mostly positive (but some negative) reviews for both videos. In fact, I've seen both videos praised for taking a simple approach to let the songs stand on their own. Seems pretty even to me. DS will likely not perform as well as TEOG did, but that doesn't mean TEOG is better.. I mean, neither will perform as well as Call Me Maybe.

Originally posted by Addicted So i'm glad we're all agreed DS video > TEOG video. Now more important things: Stronger (Album) rises 3 spots to #25 on the UK album chart. Even though it fell like 20 spots to #57 on iTunes. We must be getting loads of physical sales.

Originally posted by Addicted This is overrateGa we're talking about, anyway y'all should hop off to SYG

Says the one giving her a negative nickname?