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Celeb News: The Miscategorization of Nicki Minaj
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The Miscategorization of Nicki Minaj
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Since her 2007 mixtape Playtime Is Over,*Nicki Minaj has sold millions and millions of albums worldwide. She quickly threw hip-hop on her shoulders, competing with the best male rappers known to mankind on tracks like "Monster" and "Roman's Revenge."
Last night, the 2012 BET Awards pegged Nicki Minaj as the Best Female Hip-Hop Artist, but just like so many times before, the other female nominees of this category were absolutely no competition for the YMCMB superstar.*
Nicki Minaj should be competing against the big guys in a category titled Best Hip-Hop Artist. There is no need for the title to be gender-specific because as far as work ethic, lyrics, sales, and relevance, she gives most of the other male nominees a run for their money.
Nicki was the first female rapper to make the Forbes' Cash Kings List, raking in $6.5 million in the year 2011. She was the first female rapper to debut at Number 1 on the U.K. Charts with Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded. She is the first female hip-hop artist to transform her brand into a worldwide machine.
How could any awards show possibly feel comfortable putting her in a category amidst rappers who are nowhere near her caliber? It's almost disrespectful to all of the hard work she has put in.
Many thought she would be like so many other female lyricists, who get introduced by a top-notch male rapper, make good music, but then fail to fully establish themselves as a separate entity. To their surprise, she is so much more.
There was a time period where people were saying hip-hop was dead. Nicki Minaj was one of the key players, along with other notable male artists, who began to make hip-hop exciting again.*
We have to begin to give credit where credit is due... Nicki is playing like one of the boys and deserves more acknowledgment and support from her peers.*
Read more: http://globalgrind.com/music/miscate...#ixzz1zVywHYIl
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Interesting article.
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Bolded the important parts.
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No shade, but this "first female rapper" rhetoric is unfair because the other girls never made songs like Starships and Superbass. She is a rapper, but she's also a pop act.
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Nicki impressed me last night, this era started off really rocky for her but I think she has found a nice medium area now, I hope that makes sense. BET should get her to host next year because she is entertaining, love her or hate her.
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She's having success because she's a rapper and a pop star.
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Originally posted by mariska
No shade, but this "first female rapper" rhetoric is unfair because the other girls never made songs like Starships and Superbass. She is a rapper, but she's also a pop act.
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Like I always say, Nicki can gross millions from her Pop, and she'll still be put into a category with Hip-Hop, much like Usher and other cross-over Urban acts.
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Nicki impressed me last night, this era started off really rocky for her but I think she has found a nice medium area now, I hope that makes sense. BET should get her to host next year because she is entertaining, love her or hate her.
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I'm glad she impressed you with an amazing performance 
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#Oop. I love Russell, he's so right tho. You never hear them call Jay-Z a sellout when he was making songs with Coldplay or heard his songs rotating on POP radios. Not to mention Chris Brown performed TUTM and Don't Wake Me Up on BET yesterday but where is his backlash? People do the must on Nicki. It's not like she ditched rapping and totally went to be a singing Popstar. Nothing wrong with being diverse.
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Originally posted by Willy.
Like I always say, Nicki can gross millions from her Pop, and she'll still be put into a category with Hip-Hop, much like Usher and other cross-over Urban acts.
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Okay, but she still has the advantage over Lil' Kim, Azealia, Iggy and even Lauryn and Queen Latifah. So don't act like her being "the first female rapper to..." is impressive when she has the upper hand. She is not just a rapper. It's like saying Madonna was "the first Electronica artist to..."
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Originally posted by BadBitch
#Oop. I love Russell, he's so right tho. You never hear them call Jay-Z a sellout when he was making songs with Coldplay or heard his songs rotating on POP radios. Not to mention Chris Brown performed TUTM and Don't Wake Me Up on BET yesterday but where is his backlash? People do the must on Nicki Minaj. It's not like she ditched rapping and totally went to be a singing Popstar. Nothing wrong with being diverse.
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1. A rap song rotating on pop radio isn't the same as a pop song rotating on pop radio. Starships is pop.
2. One Coldplay duet? SMH. We both know that's a weak example.
3. CB gets tons of flack.. What at you talking about?
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The miscategorization is that Nicki was even placed in hip-hop. She's more RnB/Pop. A female hip hop category is unneccessary. Not that Nicki doesn't deserve credit, though.
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Originally posted by mariska
Okay, but she still has the advantage over Lil' Kim, Azealia, Iggy and even Lauryn and Queen Latifah. So don't act like her being "the first female rapper to..." is impressive when she has the upper hand. She is not just a rapper. It's like saying Madonna was "the first Electronica artist to..."
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Azealia is doing dance music AS WELL as Urban. Listen to 1991 and then listen to anything from Fantasea and you'll see that Azealia is pulling the same card as Nic, except her music is more unique. So THAT comparison is laughable, especially when Azealia herself claims herself as a Rapper NOT a Hip-Hop artist.
Iggy just announced an electropop mixtape, along with her Glory project, which again is what Nicki's doing, albeit on one album.
You can't compare Nicki, Iggy, and Azealia to Kim, Missy, and Latifah because NOWADAYS women in Hip-Hop want to be WITH the men, they WANT to be GLOBAL. Kim, Missy, Latifah are amazing artists, but Hip-Hop was LOCAL when they were around.
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Originally posted by mariska
1. A rap song rotating on pop radio isn't the same as a pop song rotating on pop radio. Starships is pop.
2. One Coldplay duet? SMH. We both know that's a weak example.
3. CB gets tons of flack.. What at you talking about?
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Hip-Hop =/= Rap, genius.
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Nicki was the first female rapper to make the Forbes' Cash Kings List, raking in $6.5 million in the year 2011. She was the first female rapper to debut at Number 1 on the U.K. Charts with Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded.
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It says she's the first female RAPPER. Nicki identifies a Rapper. Learn to read.
and No, CB never gets flack for broading his appeal. wWf are you talking? He's always been more or less celebrated by the urban community more specifically the females.
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
The miscategorization is that Nicki was even placed in hip-hop. She's more RnB/Pop. A female hip hop category is unneccessary. Not that Nicki doesn't deserve credit, though.
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You must have never listened to ANY mixtape, but it's typical so I won't hold it against you.
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Originally posted by BadBitch
#Oop. I love Russell, he's so right tho. You never hear them call Jay-Z a sellout when he was making songs with Coldplay or heard his songs rotating on POP radios. Not to mention Chris Brown performed TUTM and Don't Wake Me Up on BET yesterday but where is his backlash? People do the must on Nicki. It's not like she ditched rapping and totally went to be a singing Popstar. Nothing wrong with being diverse.
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I don't think that comparison is really fair. Jay was still rapping on his collaborations with Coldplay & Linkin Park. Plus, there's a big difference between that and doing David Guetta like songs (not that there's anything wrong with that).
And besides Jay-Z has been labeled a sellout before for other reasons.
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So is it pop because of the beats.  Because on Super Bass and Starships she is rapping
so to me they are still rap 
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Originally posted by Boomer
I don't think that comparison is really fair. Jay was still rapping on his collaborations with Coldplay & Linkin Park. Plus, there's a big difference between that and doing David Guetta like songs (not that there's anything wrong with that).
And besides Jay-Z has been labeled a sellout before for other reasons.
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But see that's the argument.
Azealia isn't exactly liked because her music isn't straight Urban, and the Urban community is so FICKLE that if you aren't rapping over a straight, slick beat you aren't a Hip-Hop artist.
She made that comment when releasing Nathan that the next cut from her mixtape would be more Dancey, more Azealia Banks.
Why should Azealia have to even make a comment like that? It's because she doesn't just WANT to be labeled Hip-Hop because she's more then that. She's DIVERSE.
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Originally posted by Katamari
So is it pop because of the beats. Because on Super Bass and Starships she is rapping
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Starships is Pop.
That's the truth.
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Okay, rap isn't hip-hip but the point still stands. Starships is total pop with a few rap verses. The fact is she has an advantage over female rappers, and it's unfair to say "first female rapper" when she also makes pop. It's not that Lauryn Hill and Queen Latifah didn't want to be global, it's that they wanted to make hip-hop and not pop. You can't tell me Nicki doesn't have the upper hand. She can't be compared with previous female rappers as you said, so don't bring up the first female rapper receipt.
I'll admit Iggy and Azealia were bad examples.
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