Originally posted by Jaymz Kelly... I mean she won a singing competition for a START

Originally posted by muddysquirrel Taylor's talent was so obvious that she did not need one.

Originally posted by vuelve88 I don't understand your point. I'm providing evidence to back up my statements. You guys are the one's throwing around excuses as to why Taylor has Grammy awards and higher critic ratings. For every positive thing someone says about Taylor, you search in your hat for a reason to try to dismiss her talents.... like, "brave" songwriting. No, I think you mean critically acclaimed, Grammy winning songwriting.

Originally posted by muddysquirrel Taylor's talent was so obvious that she did not need one.

Originally posted by stoopidjenna Well I'm "competent" at playing all the positions in softball, does that mean I'm immensely talented?

Cool story, still looking for my answer though.

Originally posted by lifeofpariah

Originally posted by Fortify Yo Taylor, I'm real happy for you imma let you finish, but Kelly has one of the best voices of ALL TIME. But in all seriousness, Kelly Clarkson has critically acclaimed, Grammy winning vocals. Songwriting and vocals are equally important. Personally for me, vocals outweigh songwriting but I know everybody is different.

Originally posted by calamt

Originally posted by Haus_of_Will Cool story, still looking for my answer though.

Originally posted by Haus_of_Will Cool story, still looking for my answer though.

She has been learning to play the guitar for a while now, but she hasn't played it in any performances. She is a humble person who knows her strongest asset is her voice so she showcases that, there is no need for her to play instruments during her performances. She leaves that to professionals whose strongest asset is whatever instrument they play.

Originally posted by enchanted0 Well even Kelly adores Taylor's albums. Fearless was one of her favorite album in 2009. She covered two Taylor songs, and loved The Hunger Games soundtrack

Originally posted by stoopidjenna Well I'm "competent" at playing all the positions in softball, does that mean I'm immensely talented?

Originally posted by Manchs Why bother bringing up receits, awards, critical acclaim? These things do not equate into talent. Both are singers and for me, singing skills matter the most. Therefore, Kelly wins by thousands of miles.

Originally posted by vuelve88 Bow down! Without her troupe of songwriters and producers, Kelly Clarkson would not be able to put out an album. Taylor Swift already proved that she can ("Speak Now"). Edit: LOL at Kelly fans using dancing as a supposed talent that Kelly has. Reachhhhhhhh.

And to what am I bowing down to? Your biased and subjective opinions? Kii.*

It makes me delirious with laughter how using producers make you a lessor. According to that FAULTY logic, EVERY SINGLE ARTIST must be less talented than Taylor. Whitney, Aretha, Beyonce, GaGa, Michael Jackson, Kelly Clarkson etc...all of whom have more critical acclaim from multiple formats and genres, WW record sales and talent must be a lessor next to Taylor. Kii! I am done. Have a nice life riddled in delusion.*

Originally posted by vuelve88 Ummm, because the awards and critical acclaim are for Taylor's work. They are affirmations of her talent as a songwriter and artist. But, thanks for the input, Carrie Underwood fan. I never would have expected you to side against Taylor. Very surprising.

Originally posted by esteee12 No wonder Kanye was so angry when she got the award instead of beyonce.