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Discussion: Big-Foot/Sasquatch: Fact or Fantasy?
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Originally posted by (Cole)
Aliens and mermaids are completely different things.
In the case of aliens, we may not know of extraterrestrial life at the moment, but the sheer size of the universe is a good clue that we aren't alone.
In the case of mermaids, it just doesn't make sense. There's absolutely no way an aquatic humanoid species evolved to coexist with modern Anthropoids (that's humans). That type of "land to water" or "water to land" movement of a population takes millions of years (see: whales evolved from land-dwelling anthropods).
On top of that, if a land to water shift were to take place, it would be unlikely that a population of "mermaids" (for lack of a better term) would exist at the same time as an unevolved population of humans.
This shouldn't even be a question. It's a matter of simple logic and an understanding of the basic processes of evolution.

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They could have branched off of the human family tree before we did giving them a head start, it is totally possible. And they don't exactly co-exist seeing as if they are out there they are steering well clear of humans. Modern humans, or rather our DIRECT descendants are theorised to have evolved 2.2-2.4 million years ago, that is enough time for evolution to take place in another sub-species, especially if it branched off a previous relative some 2.4 million years previous to that again.
And it isn't unlikely at all seeing as they would not be competing for food, habitat or mates. They would occupy a completely different niche and rarely if ever come into contact with a land dwelling species.
I am quite sure there are a lot of people in here with a superior knowledge of biology and evolution than you do, belief in something that has yet to be proved does not make anyone lacking in intelligence, it makes them open minded. Let's not start insulting anyone's intelligence.
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Member Since: 11/12/2011
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I still don't understand how the theory of evolution could disprove the existence of aquatic humanoids. You're assuming they evolved from anthropoids.
And I don't believe in mermaids, fyi. It's just silly to dismiss the idea.
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Member Since: 4/5/2012
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Originally posted by (Cole)
I didn't mean to sound pretentious, but I really can't believe that people are seriously considering the existence of mermaids. Saying fish people are real is like saying unicorns are real. They're a type of hybrid (or result of evolution) that, as of now, doesn't exist.

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Understood. I did not mean to be bitchy 
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Bea.
that is enough time for evolution to take place in another sub-species, especially if it branched off a previous relative some 2.4 million years previous to that again
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Examples please.
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by MikeFenty
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That's very interesting. thanks.
I have an idea. One of Neptune's moons or Neptune itself (im not sure which) is covered with water. Do you think that these mermaids reside there? 
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by (Cole)
I didn't mean to sound pretentious, but I really can't believe that people are seriously considering the existence of mermaids. Saying fish people are real is like saying unicorns are real. They're a type of hybrid (or result of evolution) that, as of now, are strictly parts of fairytales.

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Or maybe it's like saying there is a big man in the sky who made us all? I really can't believe some people believe in deities but they do. You have to let people believe what they want to. Just because it isn't something you think is possible doesn't mean it isn't. I highly doubt you are the worlds leading authority on evolution, marine biology or mythology so...I don't really know who you are to start judging people.
And actually the unicorn legend came from inaccurate descriptions of rhinos which were described as large horses with horns...which became the unicorn myth. There is truth in almost all mythology.
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Originally posted by vamp
That's very interesting. thanks.
I have an idea. One of Neptune's moons or Neptune itself (im not sure which) is covered with water. Do you think that these mermaids reside there? 
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Member Since: 11/12/2011
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Examples please.
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The dingo, dog and wolf.
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Examples please.
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You don't know how to use google?
If you are interested in that I suggest you look it up yourself, it's a pretty interesting topic.
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Member Since: 11/12/2011
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Originally posted by vamp
That's very interesting. thanks.
I have an idea. One of Neptune's moons or Neptune itself (im not sure which) is covered with water. Do you think that these mermaids reside there? 
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Member Since: 8/17/2010
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Originally posted by Bea.
They could have branched off of the human family tree before we did giving them a head start, it is totally possible. And they don't exactly co-exist seeing as if they are out there they are steering well clear of humans. Modern humans, or rather our DIRECT descendants are theorised to have evolved 2.2-2.4 million years ago, that is enough time for evolution to take place in another sub-species, especially if it branched off a previous relative some 2.4 million years previous to that again.
And it isn't unlikely at all seeing as they would not be competing for food, habitat or mates. They would occupy a completely different niche and rarely if ever come into contact with a land dwelling species.
I am quite sure there are a lot of people in here with a superior knowledge of biology and evolution than you do, belief in something that has yet to be proved does not make anyone lacking in intelligence, it makes them open minded. Let's not start insulting anyone's intelligence.
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Yes, it's possible in theory. But our knowledge of modern species, I think, tells us that it's just not plausible for the mermaids of fairytale (or any aquatic humanoid) to exist.
And of course there are people who know more than me.
Again, in theory, we could share a common ancestor with an aquatic humanoid, which branched off and evolved separately, but we have a enough knowledge to know that it didn't happen that way...
Just look at the fossil record (the most solid evidence for evolution): To the best of my knowledge, there have been no transitional fossils found that indicate a land to water evolution occurred. That is evidence enough.
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Originally posted by Bea.
Or maybe it's like saying there is a big man in the sky who made us all? I really can't believe some people believe in deities but they do. You have to let people believe what they want to. Just because it isn't something you think is possible doesn't mean it isn't. I highly doubt you are the worlds leading authority on evolution, marine biology or mythology so...I don't really know who you are to start judging people.
And actually the unicorn legend came from inaccurate descriptions of rhinos which were described as large horses with horns...which became the unicorn myth. There is truth in almost all mythology.
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No, I'm not an authority on marine biology or evolution, but I do have basic logic...

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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by vamp
That's very interesting. thanks.
I have an idea. One of Neptune's moons or Neptune itself (im not sure which) is covered with water. Do you think that these mermaids reside there? 
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No, Neptune is home to fairies.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by mariska
The dingo, dog and wolf.
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Those are things that live in the same relative habitat.
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I'm not opposed to the idea but I don't think they truly exist. I hope they do though, but if they did I think they would look radically different from anything we consider to be mermaids or human like
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Y'all should believe we are not alone in this world.
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
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It's true tho.
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Triton has a surface of mostly frozen nitrogen, a mostly water ice crust,[11] an icy mantle and a substantial core of rock and metal
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Bea.
You don't know how to use google?
If you are interested in that I suggest you look it up yourself, it's a pretty interesting topic.
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I posed the question, because all species I can find that evolved that quickly do not live in such a drastically different habitat, like the bottom of the ocean compared to land.
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You're confusing knowledge and evidence. We don't have enough evidence. Period. That's where the whole debate stops.
But you're dismissing the entire theory based on our knowledge of modern species, and that's something that is incredibly limited. We don't know enough about modern species to completely dismiss the theory of an aquatic humanoid -- or any other mythological species.
We all thought the Dodo bird was fake based on a "lack of evidence" and then guess what happened? We found fossils.
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by (Cole)
Yes, it's possible in theory. But our knowledge of modern species, I think, tells us that it's just not plausible for the mermaids of fairytale (or any aquatic humanoid) to exist.
And of course they're are people who know more than me.
Again, in theory, we could share a common ancestor with an aquatic humanoid, which branched off and evolved separately, but we have a enough knowledge to know that it didn't happen that way...
Just look at the fossil record (the most solid evidence for evolution): To the best of my knowledge, there have been no transitional fossils found that indicate a land to water evolution occurred. That is evidence enough.

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There's no transitional fossils for 1000s of species including us until very recently.
It's also pretty hard to dig up fossils from deep sea beds. I know the ocean has moved, some deserts used to be oceans etc etc but not all dead bodies become fossils. If they are intelligent they may have some burial ritual like us, these bodies may have been sunk in deep ocean trenches, who knows?
I don't care if you don't believe, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But for gods sake let other people believe whatever they want. It is possible, perhaps not very but it is certainly not impossible.
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