[Tylerbv]

Originally posted by MissedTheTrain

I definitely think they were leaving it open to possibilities to be anyone, but they were considering a few people for the beginning of the season...they probably didn't decide until later on.

!!! Agreed. If they were vague enough about some scenes (which they were), they could try to twist it to make sense at the end.

[Grown K]

Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L

Just like it was planned that "only 4-5 survive" & "you learn more and more about who the killer is each week" & all that.

This part was actually true, you do learn more about the killer throughout the episodes. You just don't know who it was.

[ksmith]

I don't know why we all think Grace being the killer would be somehow shocking. I figured it'd be her from episode 1 to be honest. Whenever you have a whodunit, you always have to ask--who would be the most shocking and the one you'd least expect. That would obviously be Grace. So the whole season I was just waiting for it to be her. I would've been disappointed if it turned out to be her.

In the end, I don't think there was anyone who really would've shocked me as the killer. I was just sort of along for the ride, not necessarily trying to figure it out.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by MissedTheTrain

I definitely think they were leaving it open to possibilities to be anyone, but they were considering a few people for the beginning of the season...they probably didn't decide until later on.

Originally posted by Tylerbv

!!! Agreed. If they were vague enough about some scenes (which they were), they could try to twist it to make sense at the end.

Yeah, I agree with this. They definitely were leaving it open for there to be multiple opportunities for the killer (and it did seem they were leaning heavily towards Grace) but decided to kiss Lea's ass at the last second instead.

[MissedTheTrain]

Originally posted by ksmith

I don't know why we all think Grace being the killer would be somehow shocking. I figured it'd be her from episode 1 to be honest. Whenever you have a whodunit, you always have to ask--who would be the most shocking and the one you'd least expect. That would obviously be Grace. So the whole season I was just waiting for it to be her. I would've been disappointed if it turned out to be her.

In the end, I don't think there was anyone who really would've shocked me as the killer. I was just sort of along for the ride, not necessarily trying to figure it out.

Most people don't think that way though. I never thought it was Grace until like Episode 10.

[Blatboy]

Well Ryan did say that "the killer does/says something in episode 1 thats a clue" and literally EVERYONE had a moment like that Like duh ryan.

[Tylerbv]

Wait In the scene at the end of Pumpkin Patch when Gigi meets the RD and says "he has to go" is she talking to Hester or Pete? It's too tall to be Hester, but I didn't think Pete was in on it yet.

[Haus]

Originally posted by Tylerbv

Wait In the scene at the end of Pumpkin Patch when Gigi meets the RD and says "he has to go" is she talking to Hester or Pete? It's too tall to be Hester, but I didn't think Pete was in on it yet.

Don't try to make sense of their stupid explanation.

[Superbitch]

Just rewatched it again and it was still bad but Not as tragique it was way more enjoyable now that I knew it'd be **** lol. Also why was graces dad so fuxking ugly on the finale lol.

[Superbitch]

Originally posted by Tylerbv

Wait In the scene at the end of Pumpkin Patch when Gigi meets the RD and says "he has to go" is she talking to Hester or Pete? It's too tall to be Hester, but I didn't think Pete was in on it yet.

That's what I kept saying all season I was saying it was another guy cuz the other red devil always looked so tall and big like buff.

[Tylerbv]

Another thing that might actually be a clue that I just noticed and someone else probably noticed and I didn't see was how at the end of Seven Minutes in Hell, Hester screams KAPPPAA with her arms in the air super loudly. That's kind of like what the one bitch did in the first episode in the flashback while Waterfalls was playing. That's kind of a clue. Maybe Ryan did have Hester as an option all along.

[heretoslay]

Originally posted by ksmith

I don't know why we all think Grace being the killer would be somehow shocking. I figured it'd be her from episode 1 to be honest.

Maybe you did but a great majority of non-viewers and even die hard fans (myself included) didn't even suspect Grace at all throughout the whole season. When it came down to the final episodes, a whole slew of incriminating evidence pointed fingers at her. It honestly would've have been the superior and better explained ending to have Grace be the killer over Hester.

Literally every kill/suspicious move made could be logically explained as to why Grace/Boone/GiGi were the killers. As opposed to having Hester's "just because I'm crazy, I'm the brains behind the operation but no blood on my hands, you were 'nice' to me that's why you weren't targeted/killed motive."

Honestly if Grace were the killer there wouldn't have been the need to involve Pete in the killings (which I despise). Look at her track record throughout the season, closely. With Hester being the reveal, you had to have made Pete the 'fourth' Red Devil just so it could have made sense.

Originally posted by Tylerbv

Another thing that might actually be a clue that I just noticed and someone else probably noticed and I didn't see was how at the end of Seven Minutes in Hell, Hester screams KAPPPAA with her arms in the air super loudly. That's kind of like what the one bitch did in the first episode in the flashback while Waterfalls was playing. That's kind of a clue. Maybe Ryan did have Hester as an option all along.

I don't see how that's a clue tbh but yeah sure, perfect.

[Jezang Looz]

Okay I didn't like the last hour like most people, but the rest of the season was great. Overall I'd give this show a 7/10. It had the potential to be a 10/10 with a more concrete plot/ending, but a 7 isn't bad. So I'd say yes Scream Queens should be renewed for a second season.

There were a lot of great subtle scenes like this one that makes the show worth it.



My main problem with the ending is why did Ryan have Chanel defend Hester when Chad and his family were dragging her, only for Hester to still turn Chanel in? Why did Cathy not report Hester immediately after she fought off not 1, not 2, but three red devils? She knew Hester faked her transcript and she was the bathtub baby so..? And how did Cathy survive Grace and Chanel's death attempts? Why have Boone act gay only to reveal that he wasn't actually gay (plotwise, idgi that seemed like filler)?

This show has a lot of offensive humor in it which was kind of funny at first but now I see that it didn't really serve a purpose other than to provide a few cheap kiis. I don't mind a second season if they tighten up the writing, keep the show fun and GET RID OF GRACE.

I thought that the killer was Hester, Zayday or Wes. I figured for the perfect Whodunit moment it would be Zayday but alas. Also the playlist jokes with Wes were endearing. This show was okay, could have been better but not bad.

Oh and Ryan needs to stick with real actors and not random celebs/instagram boys. Chanel and Cathy carried this show.

[CosTaSsSs]

I'm back from the grave ****s...! Ok, I was watching offline the whole breakdown here and it was HILARIOUS. My sweet, innocent Grace making out safe while everyone wanted her dead was a pure enjoyment since I saw your children reactions to a GOOD but one-of-the-obvious-options ending. It's getting tiring for all the gays to like types such as Chanels because they wish they were her when they got bullied for being who they are and just want the bad guys to win. If the bad guys have won, critics would have dragged the show to the pits and I think that's what Ryan wanted to avoid, besides I'm sure that this sneaky guy enjoyed the hell out of all the people who disliked the ending. Now....besides joking....the ending was pretty much ok for me and not just because Grace and Zayday made it out alive but until the second hour the confusion was real and I was expecting Grace to be the killer like all of you, something that would be very dark twist imo. Also, WTF at all of you thinking that ending meant that the red devil killed Chanel, it's probably just a dream like in every cult horror movie. I wish if there's a next season that Ryan should focus on Chanels only and have Skyler and Keke out of the cast or just as special guest stars for one or two episodes but not involved in the story. Grace was the story of the 1st season, no need to keep her for another season as a main, Zayday would make some sense tbh but there's no need for her as well since she is a KKT president. Imo, they should take Hester and the Chanels to the Summer Camp and get some new cast for the 2nd season since many people survived the 1st one. Denise is def. a YES for a season 2 and they should make her a main since she got a huge fanbase from the viewers. They should consider also to bring someone else being the special main actor/actress instead of Curtis, maybe Sarah Michelle Gellar?

[Grown K]

Originally posted by Superbitch

Also why was graces dad so fuxking ugly on the finale lol.

RIGHT!? I thought he was hot, I mean, that role was meant to Joe Manganiello! Delete it fat!

[DripDrip]

Why ya'll lying. None of you thought it was Grace until that theory popped up and everyone went on a wild goose chase grasping at straws and over analyzing Grace's vanilla show run to make her character seem more interesting. Bless your hearts for trying to redeem her character by giving her some fan made up wattpad.com story, but it was always wishful thinking.

The killer was always intended to be #5.

[britkneepopboi]

I'm really wanting a Season Two this season slayed (minus the tragic Reveal)

Overall the show was really enjoyable, and HILARIOUS. I Also loved getting to know The Characters.

My Fave Characters are definitely
• The Chanel's (Minus Hester, although I Loved ha before she was revealed as the killer)
• Dean Munsch
• Denise Hemphill
• ZayDay

The Moments of Sisterhood were truly magical, like when Chanel No. 3 left her Family, and said she's going home, that was so cute.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Sigh. It really did seem like it was Grace. Sure, it would be mildly convoluted, but a lot of things would've tied up better if it was Grace rather than Hester.

And mess. The critics wouldn't have dragged it if the "bad guys" won. No. The whole point of the show was to flip that nonsense on its head, hence why the "villain" was the MAIN CHARACTER all season. The sudden change at the end is why it's terrible.

[britkneepopboi]

I've been promoting this show since It started at school. So finally his girl started watching, and said her fave character was "that Gracie Girl"

literally delete it fat

[Aura]

I have a question about the very last second of the season where Chanel gets attacked by a red devil. Was that just a dream? Or was there actually another red devil out there?