[Mimie]

Sivir and Graves

[Corsola]

graves has q which he uses for his nuke which is 950 range so i didn't include him

same with sivir but her q has a lot more range and she uses it a lot more frequently so she definitely doesn't count
plus graves also has a dash tbh

[Jezang Looz]

Originally posted by Solaris

The League community is such garbage. I'm done with this game, I'm never wasting half an hour being flamed by a duo bot lane that refuses to surrender again. Moving onto a game that doesn't run the risk of making me want to punch someone.

Riot sucks at banning people too. They take months, if not years to get rid of the toxic players. It pisses me off I was tempted to apply at Riot just to fix the problem myself. If they had an effective tribunal it'd be easier to play.

And the random lag spikes on the east coast is tiring. I almost got banned for dc'ing out of champ select in ranked when it wasn't my fault. It's sad cause I love the game but there's too many problems to actually enjoy it.

[Solaris]

It's funny because MF should be a really meta pick right now. LCS is all about early and midgame fights, and Strut + her slow let her move around to make plays. She is arguably the best laning adc, her only competition is Draven and Caitlyn, neither of whom are being played. Her ult is really strong in mid game team fights too, the problem is that around levels 10-12 its damage completely vanishes.

I like the bonus damage on Q for killing a minion, it makes her higher skillcap + higher reward. What they did to W is fine, they're phasing grievous wounds out for all champions and it gives MF the ability to rotate and make plays whenever she wants.

My concern is that her E and her R, the parts of her kit that needed changes the most, got almost nothing. I mean, why can't R at least get an AD ratio? If they're afraid letting Bullet Time scale would make her OP that's ridiculous, it still roots her in place and that's suicide against any champion that can dive her.

[Corsola]

I actually like the change to her e. I've never thought of it as being as terrible as people say. I like that it can zone pretty well (especially when doing dragon by using it by the blue entrance), save people etc. The buffed slow is gonna be a lot more helpful than it seems imo.

Anyway her r kinda scales on ad due to her w. 6% of her total ad on every bullet for up to 6 bullets (and now 6-8 bullets) isn't that bad

I've never seen her damage to be her problem, cause she does a ton of it. My issue with MF has always been her lack of mobility, lack of safety, lack of utility compared to adcs like sivir or ashe, and her lack of range. I really think the changes are gonna help her quite a bit though.

My personal favorite change is Strut not breaking if she's shielded, gonna start rushing BT on her and making my friend play a shield support

[Jezang Looz]

MF is like one of the few adcs I never play her passive is just too annoying to deal with. But lemme look up these changes I didn't know she was getting a rework.

[katytiger]

do u guys play smite?

queen Aphrodite>>>LoL

[Corsola]

nnn, not me being so wrong in my post 3 days ago

Mf's ult scales on ad with her w, and it does a LOT more than I said. If you hit your max stacks by autoing people before you ult the scaling is 288% at LOWEST rank. (assuming you hit every bullet, it's 36% for each bullet).

Even if you had no stacks at all, it's still a 198% ad scaling at lowest rank if you hit the entire ult. Lord, why does everyone in the world bitch about her lack of ad scaling on the ult?

[Tim£]

I hate supporting for Kog

[EdicsonHades]

Originally posted by Tim£

I hate supporting for Kog

I hate supporting for Kalista, tbh.

[Solaris]

Originally posted by Corsola

nnn, not me being so wrong in my post 3 days ago

Mf's ult scales on ad with her w, and it does a LOT more than I said. If you hit your max stacks by autoing people before you ult the scaling is 288% at LOWEST rank. (assuming you hit every bullet, it's 36% for each bullet).

Even if you had no stacks at all, it's still a 198% ad scaling at lowest rank if you hit the entire ult. Lord, why does everyone in the world bitch about her lack of ad scaling on the ult?

Do you even play MF? Her ult literally does not deal damage after early-mid game. It's not worth using to apply W stacks because it roots her in place. She won't live long enough to followup and auto people to death with max W stacks if she's standing in place.

I mean her ultimate is literally detrimental for more of the game than it is beneficial. There's a brief period after level 6 where it actually deals damage and is really strong in midgame fights, but it falls off hard and fast.

[Solaris]

Not to mention MF is immobile and short ranged so even if you did get a miracle ult off and started the fight with max W stacks on enemy champions, she will STILL probably die before she can auto people to death.

MF's 1-10 is already insane and the rework is making it even more insane. Problem is she's still about as useful as a caster minion once people have 3-4 items.

[Corsola]

Originally posted by Solaris

Do you even play MF? Her ult literally does not deal damage after early-mid game. It's not worth using to apply W stacks because it roots her in place. She won't live long enough to followup and auto people to death with max W stacks if she's standing in place.

I mean her ultimate is literally detrimental for more of the game than it is beneficial. There's a brief period after level 6 where it actually deals damage and is really strong in midgame fights, but it falls off hard and fast.

That's cause the ad scaling does magic damage and MF doesn't build magic pen. & yes I play her, but her ult making her unsafe has nothing to do with the scaling on it. It's a biT inconvenient due to all the divers that can cancel her ult, but I've literally never had a problem with the root/getting my ult cancelled. It just depends on positioning and keeping track of cooldowns. With that being said, you can't deny that making a 198% MINIMUM ad scaling (if you hit all the bullets though) deal physical damage would be overwhelming. Even if it is easy to cancel, it's still easy to pubstomp with if MF positions well.

I don't think you realize how much damage MF actually does, including lategame tbh.

[Corsola]

Besides, even if she is weak as **** lategame, that's just how the champion is. She's STRONG early game and VERY strong midgame. Just because she falls off lategame doesn't mean her lategame needs buffed.

Edit: And I still think MF has some clear issues but damage is far from one of them.

[Lulu]

Mf's passive feels more like a debuff cause it's so easy to lose
The strut activation when using w is trash too, a single minion hit will make it go away, terrible compensation for the grievous wounds removal
+ She's going to get a lot of play in ranked now, ughhh my new main

[Scotty]

FIORA UPDATE

Old Splash




New Splash

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Her face. She's so cartoony now. I like almost everything else about her update though. Not sure how I feel about her new ult yet, but I think her old ult was too overpowered. Should separate good Fiora players from the bad.

[rimf]

oh wow @ Fiora's face, serving Julia Volkova

[EdicsonHades]

Mess @ her face

[materialboy]

did LOL just ruin the best champ Fiora ?

THATS RIDICULOUS

im sor angry.they ruined a perfect op champ.i cant believe that ult is so stupid........it heals a teammate.sand how do they expect me to hit 1 champion without him moving (that wont happen) 4 times.......

the W is tragic liek really ? and her Q ios more than tragic too

[Mimie]

Her new ult sucks

No one has time for that in a teamfight