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If no one took us seriously, and no one sympathized with us, there would not have been numerous protests nationwide; And even in London. Other nations have spoken out about it. All the protests were diverse too; I saw all races as this is a human rights issue. The reason the 'race card is played' is because even though this victim is far from being a saint, racial tension is there, across the nation. Trying to dismiss this is akin to telling a rape victim to just act as if it never happened, even when they're forced to share the same land as their rapist. It comes off as very inconsiderate.
I see some of you critics live in New York and Connecticut. Very liberal and forward-thinking. But this nation is huge and not everywhere is as fair and open-minded to others as the Northeast (even though that would be ideal). You can look at any election map and see that. If you lived in the rural south you'd understand that. There are bigger issues in the world, but the issues here at home are real. We're lucky we live in the USA, but you're lucky you don't live in our shoes which is really the only reason any of you are able to dismiss it at all.
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Originally posted by Asshole
It depends. Asians are highly discriminated in the fashion, model and medical world especially in cities like nyc, los angeles, and chicago. East asians are seen as "ugly" in the fashion world or even hollywood in general which is why you barely see asian models and ever notice how east asian news reporters are only during late nights or early early mornings where no one is watching whereas attractive white women and latinas are favored in the media. Hispanics come in many different shades too so of course Latinas with light skin like sofia vergara, jennifer lopez or alexis bledel are favored over dark ones like zoe saldana and lala anthony or even latinas that look asian.
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Despite this discrimination that Asians suffer, they dont largely participate in crime and violence, so that is my point.
And btw, I am Latino too, and it pisses me off that the my community copies the bad part of black culture. smh.
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Originally posted by Luzianne
If no one took us seriously, and no one sympathized with us, there would not have been numerous protests nationwide; And even in London. Other nations have spoken out about it. All the protests were diverse too; I saw all races as this is a human rights issue. The reason the 'race card is played' is because even though this victim is far from being a saint, racial tension is there, across the nation. Trying to dismiss this is akin to telling a rape victim to just act as if it never happened, even when they're forced to share the same land as their rapist. It comes off as very inconsiderate.
I see some of you critics live in New York and Connecticut. Very liberal and forward. But this nation is huge and not everywhere is as fair and open-minded to other as the Northeast. You can look at any election map and see that. If you lived in the rural south you'd understand that. There are bigger issues in the world, but the issues here at home are real. We're lucky we live in the USA, but you're lucky you don't live in our shoes which is really the only reason any of you are able to dismiss it at all.
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IA that there is discrimination and prejudice, but this case was not the right case to protest when the supposedly victim actually assaulted a cop and tried to man handle the gun away from him.
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by Luzianne
If no one took us seriously, and no one sympathized with us, there would not have been numerous protests nationwide; And even in London. Other nations have spoken out about it. All the protests were diverse too; I saw all races as this is a human rights issue. The reason the 'race card is played' is because even though this victim is far from being a saint, racial tension is there, across the nation. Trying to dismiss this is akin to telling a rape victim to just act as if it never happened, even when they're forced to share the same land as their rapist. It comes off as very inconsiderate.
I see some of you critics live in New York and Connecticut. Very liberal and forward. But this nation is huge and not everywhere is as fair and open-minded to other as the Northeast. You can look at any election map and see that. If you lived in the rural south you'd understand that. There are bigger issues in the world, but the issues here at home are real. We're lucky we live in the USA, but you're lucky you don't live in our shoes which is really the only reason any of you are able to dismiss it at all.
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I really admire how eloquent you are, you are wording delicate issues perfectly, I wish more people would read your posts in here (non-ATRLers)
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Originally posted by Queen Bea.
I really admire how eloquent you are, you are wording delicate issues perfectly, I wish more people would read your posts in here (non-ATRLers)
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Thank you. ![weeps](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRLSmilies/52b0f867.gif)
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I know it's private but I am extremely curious about the jury, I wonder if there was any ethnic diversity or if it was set up to play to the defense. I don't think anyone would be surprised to find suspicious aspects within this whole fiasco because it is blatantly clear that that poor boy was murdered not shot when attacking.
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Member Since: 10/30/2011
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So I've been waiting for the protesters to burn a police station or a public building. All I've seen burn is private business. I live in a country where some people (and I'm using the term "people" loosely) don't respect private businesses and life becomes hell. Where will they go buy what they need when all business refuses to step foot on that town? Where will they work?
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by I Am Music
Bringing up black on black crime with disproportionate stats doesn't deflect the issues at hand FYI.
Also, using that as a counterargument makes you look suspect as hell.
This case which the topic is about is not black on black crime so save it.
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Actually bringing up black on black crime is perfectly fine. It shows the mindset and cultures that black have. I am black and I've seen it firsthand.
Blacks only care about violence towards other blacks when the perpetrator is anything but black. It's not only sad, but pathetic.
Do you know what it's like being called "white" because you speak properly and use correct grammar? I do. Do you know what it's like to be called an "Uncle Tom" because you can see a situation where a black was at fault, and you refuse to defend their actions? I do.
The black community needs to grow. Everyone knows OJ did it, even blacks, yet we celebrated when he got off. Why is that?
The black community is keeping the black community down, not the rest of the world. Stop using your race as an excuse as to why this or that is happening to you. Use it as motivation to be better than the person next you.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by musicislife11
Actually bringing up black on black crime is perfectly fine. It shows the mindset and cultures that black have. I am black and I've seen it firsthand.
Blacks only care about violence towards other blacks when the perpetrator is anything but black. It's not only sad, but pathetic.
Do you know what it's like being called "white" because you speak properly and use correct grammar? I do. Do you know what it's like to be called an "Uncle Tom" because you can see a situation where a black was at fault, and you refuse to defend their actions? I do.
The black community needs to grow. Everyone knows OJ did it, even blacks, yet we celebrated when he got off. Why is that?
The black community is keeping the black community down, not the rest of the world. Stop using your race as an excuse as to why this or that is happening to you. Use it as motivation to be better than the person next you.
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If by you mean "you" I hope you mean in a more general term and not me directly.
First off you're telling me nothing I don't already know.
I got the you talk white comments as well but also got the "you speak so well" from whites as a child. Those comments annoy me way more than the ones a few blacks here and there gave.
The implication that a black male can't be educated is ingrained in peoples minds and to pretend it doesn't paint black men with a broad brush is ridiculous.
Everyone can do some improvements and to place it all on the black communities shoulders is not exactly fair. And have you not been paying attention to how blacks in communities have been trying to stop black on black crime?, because it is very much a thing.
And no, bringing up that topic is not okay when it's being used as a deflective method with racial undertones. Pretty much saying look at how blacks kill each other go worry about that instead of other issues. Which might I add is just as important as black on black crime.
And instead of focusing on how negative blacks can be focus on how positive some can be.
Focus on the fact some kids in poor neighborhoods do want better for themselves.
We can go on and on and on about how bad things are but is anyone really trying to find better education for future black youth?. Parents who try to go out of certain school districts for their black children but can't and or either sent to jail for simply wanting their kid to have a better life.
So miss me with this pathetic crap, you wanna know what is pathetic? pretending there isn't systematic oppression and despite that some still try to do better.
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Originally posted by I Am Music
If by you mean "you" I hope you mean in a more general term and not me directly.
First off you're telling me nothing I don't already know.
I got the you talk white comments as well but also got the "you speak so well" from whites as a child. Those comments annoy me way more than the ones a few blacks here and there gave.
The implication that a black male can't be educated is ingrained in peoples minds and to pretend it doesn't paint black men with a broad brush is ridiculous.
Everyone can do some improvements and to place it all on the black communities shoulders is not exactly fair. And have you not been paying attention to how blacks in communities have been trying to stop black on black crime?, because it is very much a thing.
And no, bringing up that topic is not okay when it's being used as a deflective method with racial undertones. Pretty much saying look at how blacks kill each other go worry about that instead of other issues. Which might I add is just as important as black on black crime.
And instead of focusing on how negative blacks can be focus on how positive some can be.
Focus on the fact some kids in poor neighborhoods do want better for themselves.
We can go on and on and on about how bad things are but is anyone really trying to find better education for future black youth?. Parents who try to go out of certain school districts for their black children but can't and or either sent to jail for simply wanting their kid to have a better life.
So miss me with this pathetic crap, you wanna know what is pathetic? pretending there isn't systematic oppression and despite that some still try to do better.
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People often forget that it is white people who trained black people to tear each other down by ostracizing those blacks who are educated, speak well and get ahead in life. The educated black guy isnt celebrated in the media. It's the uneducated ones who are and as soon as a black person becomes too successful the white people and black people start questioning if someone is black enough in one form or another. So if one is going to get mad at black people for ostracizing educated blacks one must get upset at white people who do the same thing and do it more often.
Case and point... Obama is called uppity, chai swilling community organizer and chief..by the white people not the black people. These white people then go criticize black people for not being educated, smart, well spoken, community organizer they complained about on Fox News. I get it. Blacks are expected to be educated and well spoken but not if it means they see any measure of success at the same levels of a white man.
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Originally posted by Su-Barbie-A
For the ones talking about how Darren Wilson was a saint before he killed Mike
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I have to ask you. What's your big beef with Darren Wilson?
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Originally posted by Callisto.
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![clap3](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/67d90ee8.gif) Tell em sis!
So many ignorant people in here I swear... but they won't listen. Oh well, not my issue.
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So cute that you took the time to write a scholarly essay on the topic for ATRL. ![jesus](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/5228d2f0.gif)
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Wow, some of you sound like ignorant fourteen year-olds.
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
So cute that you took the time to write a scholarly essay on the topic for ATRL. ![jesus](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/5228d2f0.gif)
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And I bet your **** eyed ass still took the time to look
And damn if 5 lines is an essay to you I pray for your grades in school.
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"MLK is regularly evoked by Whites in a dehumanizing fashion in order to police Black vernacular (subversion/reclamation), police Black people’s response to continued State violence and anti-Blackness, and to control Black culture and life via the myth that the politics of respectability can “earn” us humanity; humanity denied us as the very foundation and current reality of this country, in fact."
http://www.gradientlair.com/post/103...silencing-tool
Let me just put this here, cause I swear I saw this nonsense all up and down this thread.
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Originally posted by Newt
"MLK is regularly evoked by Whites in a dehumanizing fashion in order to police Black vernacular (subversion/reclamation), police Black people’s response to continued State violence and anti-Blackness, and to control Black culture and life via the myth that the politics of respectability can “earn” us humanity; humanity denied us as the very foundation and current reality of this country, in fact."
http://www.gradientlair.com/post/103...silencing-tool
Let me just put this here, cause I swear I saw this nonsense all up and down this thread.
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A Don Lemon mess
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Hi, could a moderator please elaborate to me how calling the rioters thugs for robbing, looting and burning local businesses granted me a warning point for insensitivity? I would honestly love to know because if that is insensitive then there really are some delusional people on this site.
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