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Originally posted by Marvin
Since you've already got the views of multiple fans...
She's corrupt and works for the big corporations. In her emails that leaked, she tried to convince people to get free-trade agreements passed even though she claimed to be against them. She's conveniently changed her mind on a number of issues, has a number of previous scandals, and is currently undergoing an FBI investigation.
Although that video apparently takes some of her statements out of context, there's plenty of other videos out there that show who she really is. She's literally one of the biggest people in the establishment along with her husband Bill. They've ran American politics for decades and if you look up their history you'll see how they're influenced by big corporations with all the money they give them for speeches. There's no way she can care so much about the American people like she claims she does and still help the companies.
And I find it slightly ironic that she continues to cling to Obama even though she's running a "no we can't" campaign, criticizing other plans as unrealistic. She's literally the opposite of Obama in that regard.
I'm sure one of the Hillary Sisters will attack me now.
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I hope you're aware that this post is full of it.
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She's corrupt and works for the big corporations.
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Bull ****.
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In her emails that leaked, she tried to convince people to get free-trade agreements passed even though she claimed to be against them.
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As Secretary of State, which you were not, with information to which y'all had no access.
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She's conveniently changed her mind on a number of issues,
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You mean just like everyone... ever?
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has a number of previous scandals,
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Which, as anyone older than 25 can probably tell you and anyone informed would also know, never materialized into anything. Ever. Not even once.
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and is currently undergoing an FBI investigation.
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Actually, well, no, we don't know that at all because it's very unclear who the FBI's investigation has come (or will come) to center around, whether it's abotu her as an individual at all, or whether anyone will be prosecuted for anything. So yeah.
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She's literally one of the biggest people in the establishment along with her husband Bill.
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Who cares? So what? Why does anyone care about this? Why has the Sanders faction of liberals tried to turn this into a dirty word? Because honestly, I (along with most others) don't actually care if you can't prove anything bad about her establishment status.
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They've ran American politics for decades and if you look up their history you'll see how they're influenced by big corporations with all the money they give them for speeches.
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This has, well, nothing to do with anything. Last I checked, you can give a speech to someone that's not about how great they are and how they gave you standard speaking fees. In fact, the speeches that have had bits and pieces leak or that people have addressed with news outlets have focused on global Secretary of State interests and other such things. I'm pretty sure one of the post-SoS speeches allegedly even brought up her concerns with the financial industry. So like, this is crap, and it's not at all reflected in her voting record. Not to mention that even Bernard has given speeches to private interests, or the fact that Obama received four times as high a percentage of his campaign funds from Wall Street donors (Hillary sits at a measly 7%, which is a little odd given all those speeches that clearly have so much influence over how she's going to act as President).
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There's no way she can care so much about the American people like she claims she does and still help the companies.
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My main concern here is this being an outright lie - you can in fact support policies that benefit corporations in a responsible manner while still also supporting policies that greatly benefit the American people, and this is without contradiction.
Not to mention her literal life's work is helping children in need and representing their interests on a state and federal level. I guess that, like, just gets tossed out the window when someone pays you for a speech or two?
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And I find it slightly ironic that she continues to cling to Obama even though she's running a "no we can't" campaign, criticizing other plans as unrealistic. She's literally the opposite of Obama in that regard.
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"Yes we can" and this annoying, nebulous idea of "hope" is not all that constituted Obama as a candidate. Furthermore. she's "clinging" to Obama the President, not the 2008 candidate who beat her with promises that were subsequently obstructed by an ignorant Republican congress. She's been clear on building on his progress, and being realistic is not necessarily wholly opposed to his message from 2008 (which was not, mind you, inclusive of many things Sanders proposes, but did include comments in support of single payer - which never happened because he knew it wouldn't).
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I'm sure one of the Hillary Sisters will attack me now.
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If you were right about these things, nobody would rebut.
And please stop spewing lies about her policies because Bernie has some issues as well. And "establishment?" Um I guess by y'all standards Obama and every other politician we know are too establishment for office as well.