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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
Oh the Green Party is flawed for sure, and the more I hear Jill speak the more I realize how unreasonably idealistic her promises are. And y'all tried throwing the unrealistic card at Bernie.  |
Bernie should just join the Green Party tbh. He'd fit right in 
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I really feel like Jill is the liberal Sarah Palin lol
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Originally posted by jgorny
I really feel like Jill is the liberal Sarah Palin lol
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I might just tweet this 
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Originally posted by Auris
Yeah but we both know that'll never happen  We'll always have a Ted Cruz on the Reps side, a Sanders on the Dem side, and a Peterson on the Libs side 
And oh yeah I'd elect Obama ten times if it meant we didn't have Hillary.
This is also true.. But doesn't change the fact that in the end, Trump will be detrimental to the world whereas Hillary would only worsen the status quo. |
I'm in Texas unfortunately so I have a mini-Cruz as my local House rep.  It's painful.
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Originally posted by Auris
Bernie should just join the Green Party tbh. He'd fit right in |
He's not an idiot so no. 
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Speaking of Greens, their CNN town hall is next week. Perched for Ajuma's statements 
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Originally posted by jgorny
I really feel like Jill is the liberal Sarah Palin lol
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 The accuracy! 
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Originally posted by LuLuDrops
Speaking of Greens, their CNN town hall is next week. Perched for Ajuma's statements |
I can't wait for the kiis
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Originally posted by Auris
I mean, from the perspective of an Israeli American can you blame me? Going from our most pro-Israel president to our most anti-Israel president hurts me and my family a lot.
Also, his healthcare plan - because it didn't go far enough - hurts a lot. Since Obamacare, my family's medical bills have gone up by hundreds. It hurts the lower middle class a lot and only really helps the poorest of the poor. Healthcare should be either entirely free market (impossible due to Roosevelt 2) or entirely public. Mixtures are BAD and hurt everyone.
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He is not anti Israel he is anti violence!
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Originally posted by Hey Gurl Hey
People like you with your harmful ideologies and not caring about blatant corruption are the problem and are the reason why so many people support Trump. It's just sick
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What does that have to do with post you quoted, sweetness?
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Originally posted by Retro
Gosh, the notion of Obama being "evil" or at all anything less than a stellar President. Actually makes my stomach churn. I don't understand it at all.
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Obama's by no means evil, but not stellar either...
1. Is ISIS contained?
2. Is the economy clicking in all sectors?
3. Did he make race relations better or worse in the US?
Did he even attempt to work with republicans on:
4. Gun legislation?
5. Immigration?
6. Keystone Pipeline?
A stellar president would of handled those issues better and compromised when they had to for the betterment of the country.
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Originally posted by that G.U.Y.
He is not anti Israel he is anti violence!
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If you're anti-violence you'd stop the illegal arms trade to Palestine, destroy Hamas, and find a peaceful agreement between the West Bank and Israel to allow settlements without destroying Muslim communities and families. Also, would stop the Gazans from inflating their death tolls by not evacuating their people when Israel gets rid of their weapons and hiding the weapons in schools/hospitals.
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Originally posted by Auris
If you're anti-violence you'd stop the illegal arms trade to Palestine, destroy Hamas, and find a peaceful agreement between the West Bank and Israel to allow settlements without destroying Muslim communities and families. Also, would stop the Gazans from inflating their death tolls by not evacuating their people when Israel gets rid of their weapons and hiding the weapons in schools/hospitals.
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Lol, if only it were that simple. It's not and you know it.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
Obama's by no means evil, but not stellar either...
1. Is ISIS contained?
2. Is the economy clicking in all sectors?
3. Did he make race relations better or worse in the US?
Did he even attempt to work with republicans on:
4. Gun legislation?
5. Immigration?
6. Keystone Pipeline?
A stellar president would of handled those issues better and compromised when they had to for the betterment of the country.
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MTE. He's not evil - he's not even bad - he's just not stellar. I think he'll go down in the top half of US presidents, but that's simply a result of having so many bad ones prior (Bush 2, Harding, Buchanan, Johnson, etc.)
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
Lol, if only it were that simple. It's not and you know it.
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Of course not, but he hasn't even tried and he has supported Palestine throughout all of this above Israel.
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Damn this thread hasn't been so active since the conventions
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Originally posted by Auris
Of course not, but he hasn't even tried and he has supported Palestine throughout all of this above Israel.
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No he hasn't. That's an outright lie.
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Israel continues to be the top recipient of U.S. foreign military financing, and for fiscal year 2016, the administration requested $3.1 billion in funding. The two nations also have begun preliminary talks on a long-term package that would provide up to $45 billion in security assistance grant aid through 2028. Early this year, Israel signed a contract with the United States for the purchase of 14 F-35 fighter jets, amounting to $3 billion.
Since Obama entered office, Israel has received more than $20.5 billion in foreign military financing. Unlike President George W. Bush, who rejected Israel’s request for bunker-buster bombs, Obama became the first president to approve the sale of these advanced weapons, and in the fall of 2012, the U.S. and Israel participated in Austere Challenge 12, the largest joint military exercise ever to be held between the two countries.
Under Obama, the U.S. and Israel have continued Juniper Cobra, a joint exercise that has been held every two years since 2001 to test our joint ability to respond to missile attacks and improve preparedness, as well as coordination between our armed forces.
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http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.662588
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
Oh the Green Party is flawed for sure, and the more I hear Jill speak the more I realize how unreasonably idealistic her promises are. And y'all tried throwing the unrealistic card at Bernie. |
She's incredibly unrealistic and it pisses me off
I'd be a damn registered Green Party voter if I hadn't hesitated in mailing my new form when she started going crazy.
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Originally posted by Auris
I mean, from the perspective of an Israeli American can you blame me? Going from our most pro-Israel president to our most anti-Israel president hurts me and my family a lot.
Also, his healthcare plan - because it didn't go far enough - hurts a lot. Since Obamacare, my family's medical bills have gone up by hundreds. It hurts the lower middle class a lot and only really helps the poorest of the poor.
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I really don't think that he's all that anti-Israel. We're still a disproportionately pro-Israel nation and I think, as someone who personally interacts with Israeli and Palestinian Americans every day through my friends at school, we need to be a two-state nation who acknowledges Israel's right to exist along Palestine, just what I think.
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Member Since: 11/26/2010
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Originally posted by Retro
She's incredibly unrealistic and it pisses me off
I'd be a damn registered Green Party voter if I hadn't hesitated in mailing my new form when she started going crazy.
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You know Retro, I think this is the first time we've agreed on something in this thread.
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Originally posted by Retro
CNN right now is disgusting.
First they're equating the gun comment to the Orlando shooter being at a Hillary rally.
Then, they straight up LIE that the people in his spot are "hand selected." And then they additionally claim that he, a private citizen, shouldn't even have been allowed at the rally.
Good lord.
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I really hope Clinton's team wasn't dumb enough to personally invite him...especially when he was somewhat culpable for his son's repressed homosexuality...which led to his self hate, and radicalization.
It's just bad optics, if nothing else. 
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so damn shady