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Celeb News: 'The Born This Way Ball Tour' Starring Lady Gaga
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Not satisfied with a second $200 000 000 tour while contemporaries cant even do $100 m
Only Gaga fans
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It'll be interesting to see how the ARTPOP Ball fairs. Hopefully it'll be carried by a more popular era and benefit from TBTWB expanding her audience with new territories.
It's worth remembering that this is only her second major tour and they're learning as they go. It's largely unprecedented to be this successful so quickly, so they're working out where her strongest audiences are, where needs more work and where to avoid in future. She isn't a veteran who has umpteen tours to look back on for guidelines and a guaranteed audience who will ensure consistent success.
If she manages to keep pulling in at least $200 million with each tour, she'll have grossed a billion dollars in only 3 more tours. That's insane.
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Originally posted by hausofbryan
So what? She had stadium dates worldwide. If she cant top TMB, it's a statement on her fading pop influence.
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Originally posted by supersergaz
In 2011 she made $70 M from 45 shows. Mind that and count. $161.4 M + $55-60 M = $216,4 M to $221,4 M.
If we are trying to speak the language of numbers, we should always analyze the numbers we are concentrating on.
First of all, she will have played 119 dates comparing to 201 of Monster Ball. It means Gaga will have played 40,79% LESS CONCERTS.
Gaga will probably sell around 2,100,000 tickets for all the Born This Way Ball (comparing to 2,500,000 tickets of Monster Ball). It means she will sell 16% LESS TICKETS.
Finally, she will gross min. $211,4 M (comparing to $227 M of the Monster Ball). It means she will gross 6,87% LESS CASH.
To sum up: Gaga is playing 41% LESS CONCERTS, selling 16% LESS TICKETS and grossing 6,87% LESS CASH.
Now what can one say from these numbers?
1) The drastic decrease in the number of tour dates comparing to the Monster Ball didn't result in the corresponding decrease of the ticket sales. Gaga will have played 40% less shows and she was supposed to sell 40% less tickets, when in fact the sales will drop just 16%. It means Gaga is playing larger venues now, which is a positive sign anyways.
2) The 16% drop of ticket sales comparing to the Monster Ball is supposed to result in the 16% gross decrease, when in fact the worst scenario sees just 7% cash drop. It means that Gaga tickets are higher priced than they used to be with the Monster Ball. So people are ready to pay more money to see Gaga (except South America)! It's also a positive sign, on one hand. On the other hand, it means for some fans who have already seen the BTWB it's already time to start saving money for ARTPOP tour.
3) She will be the second female solo artist to place two $200 M tours after Madonna. Is that an underperformance?
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From Gaga Daily.
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Member Since: 10/2/2011
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Originally posted by BlondUnicorn
From Gaga Daily.
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GOSPEL! 
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Originally posted by BlondUnicorn
From Gaga Daily.
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Why all the convoluted math? What I get from those figures is her average attendance went up from ~10K to ~20K, while her ticket prices went up a little bit as well. That means her touring power has more than doubled compared to the previous tour. That's all that matters.
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Originally posted by Kworb
Why all the convoluted math? What I get from those figures is her average attendance went up from ~10K to ~20K, while her ticket prices went up a little bit as well. That means her touring power has more than doubled compared to the previous tour. That's all that matters.
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When are we getting detailed reports from Billboard Boxscore? Today or tomorrow? 
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Originally posted by Kworb
Why all the convoluted math? What I get from those figures is her average attendance went up from ~10K to ~20K, while her ticket prices went up a little bit as well. That means her touring power has more than doubled compared to the previous tour. That's all that matters.
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clocking our stanbase left , center and right.
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Even if BTWT topped the MBT by 1mil, 5mil or 10mil, there WILL STILL be someone who denied the success of BTWB.
We are talking about average gross per show.
Example:
Hardworking, plenty of time - having 100 shows - 100mil gross
Become superstar, wants cut down on number of shows - having 50 shows - 90mil gross
Is the above fading?
Somebody needs to go back to primary school if don't understand the logic.
Miss gaga !!!
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Liking the logic on display, hope y'all are around to put the hysterical in check when the tour wraps up.
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It would be delusional to think that Gaga did not lose her touring power in america. If not for asian leg of the btwb, the tour would be a flop
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Originally posted by Hotshot
It would be delusional to think that Gaga did not lose her touring power in america. If not for asian leg of the btwb, the tour would be a flop
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Oh, show me your receipts for the North American leg because it hasn't happened yet 
And that was the first time she toured South America so how can she have lost touring power? 
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Oh, show me your receipts for the North American leg because it hasn't happened yet
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The mexico show was enough for comparison.
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Originally posted by Hotshot
The mexico show was enough for comparison.
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That was one show... 
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That was one show... |
Don't use logic. It's banned from this thread apparently.
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Anyone going to the first show in Canada? Do you plan on taking pix of the new outfits?
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Don't use logic. It's banned from this thread apparently.
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lol. true tho!
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Originally posted by Hotshot
The mexico show was enough for comparison.
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LOL. The last tour had 3 shows in L.A this one had 12 .. that's 4 times the amount the last tour had.. you serious ?
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
When are we getting detailed reports from Billboard Boxscore? Today or tomorrow? |
Only tomorrow.
EDIT: Guess I was wrong. 
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Estadio do Morumbi
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Nov. 11, 2012
$4,293,859
43,137 /
43,137
1 /
1
$366.59, $46.43
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Latin America/T4F-Time For Fun
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Olimpiyskiy
Moscow, Russia
Dec. 12, 2012
$4,022,660
19,522 /
19,522
1 /
1
$2,454.52, $49.09
Live Nation Global Touring/PMI Group
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Estadio River Plate
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Nov. 16, 2012
$3,988,565
45,007 /
45,007
1 /
1
$208.33, $52.08
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Latin America/T4F-Time For Fun
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
FNB Stadium
Johannesburg, South Africa
Nov. 30, 2012
$3,270,764
56,900 /
56,900
1 /
1
$79.35, $34.01
Live Nation Global Touring/Big Concerts
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Estadio Nacional
Santiago, Chile
Nov. 20, 2012
$2,849,707
42,416 /
42,416
1 /
1
$531.58, $60.45
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Latin America/T4F-Time For Fun
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Foro Sol
Mexico City, Mexico
Oct. 26, 2012
$2,666,769
37,260 /
37,260
1 /
1
$153.80, $24.61
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Latin America/OCESA-CIE
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Estadio El Campin
Bogota, Colombia
Nov. 6, 2012
$2,465,994
30,546 /
36,335
1 /
0
$212.93, $71.53
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Latin America/OCESA-CIE
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Cape Town Stadium
Cape Town, South Africa
Dec. 3, 2012
$2,285,389
39,527 /
39,527
1 /
1
$90.31, $33.87
Live Nation Global Touring/Big Concerts
Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Parque dos Atletas
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Nov. 9, 2012
$2,218,846
26,167 /
26,167
1 /
1
$366.60, $43.99
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Latin America/T4F-Time For Fun
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Telenor Arena
Oslo, Norway
Dec. 6, 2012
$1,748,812
14,566 /
14,566
1 /
1
$146.05, $91.73
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Scandinavia
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Estadio Universidad San Marcos
Lima, Peru
Nov. 23, 2012
$1,732,732
36,163 /
36,163
1 /
1
$432.94, $29.96
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Latin America/T4F-Time For Fun
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Estadio Nacional de Costa Rica
San Jose, Costa Rica
Nov. 3, 2012
$1,661,029
29,014 /
29,014
1 /
1
$184.52, $138.99
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Latin America
Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
SKK Arena
St. Petersburg, Russia
Dec. 9, 2012
$1,434,499
11,127 /
11,127
1 /
1
$486.60, $145.98
Live Nation Global Touring/PMI Group
Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Jockey Club
Asuncion, Paraguay
Nov. 26, 2012
$1,107,371
26,481 /
26,481
1 /
1
$403.60, $40.36
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Latin America/T4F-Time For Fun
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Lady Gaga, The Darkness, Lady Starlight
Centro de Eventos Fiergs
Porto Alegre, Brazil
Nov. 13, 2012
$923,379
9,918 /
9,918
1 /
1
$315.11, $72.72
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation Latin America/T4F-Time For Fun
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