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Discussion: #2 & #1: OOOOOPS! IT's MUSIC! | Title Tracks of 21st Century
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#07
LADY GAGA - "Born This Way"
457 points
Number of Voters: 19
Highest Voter: superiore-93 ; SyntaxError ; ianBK4 [#1]
inagalaxyfar [#2]
alfonso12 [#3]
HonourableVomit [#4]
JakeKills [#7]
Haus-Of_Mck ; KT&T [#8]
JO3Y [#11]
nicklada ; gotintoririfever1 [#13]
Ozzy8923 ; Quicksand ; umichgrad09 [#15]
Subomie [#19]
Lust for Love ; conseeded ; SebaMonster [#20]
Album : Born This Way (2011)
Track No: 2
Genre: Dance-pop
Writer: Stefani Germanotta, Jeppe Laursen, Fernando Garibay, Paul Blair
Producer: Lady Gaga, Fernando Garibay, Jeppe Laursen, DJ White Shadow
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“Born This Way received generally positive reviews from music critics upon its release. Michael Cragg from The Guardian called the song a "disco anthem", and said the chorus "crashes in with the weight of a discarded meat dress". He also felt that the "campness" of the music made the lyrics sound less serious than it is. Rick Florino of Artistdirect gave the song five out of five stars and labeled it as "an immediate pop classic", complimenting the hook and the chorus. Alison Schwartz from People added that "the club-ready anthem, complete with a few A Capella chants and Italian lyrics, shows off Gaga's powerhouse vocal chords—and knack for powerful songwriting." Jem Aswad from Billboard responded positively to the anthemic nature of the song, and felt that it would become a staple song to be played on the radio and dancefloors in the following months. Nick Levine of Digital Spy gave the song five out of five stars, describing it as a "life-affirming equality anthem, a straight-up club pumper and a flat-out fantastic pop song." Writing for Slant Magazine, Sal Cinquemani understood that Gaga "has tapped into something truly special, maybe even important." He also complimented the song's underlying message of equality. Meghan Casserly of Forbes expected "Born This Way" to be the biggest gay anthem ever, since, according to her, it was written with that purpose in mind. Annie Yuan of The Hollywood Reporter labeled the song "a hodge-podge of other pop tunes." Kevin O'Donnell of Spin gave a mixed review, pointing out lyrical similarities to Michael Jackson's "Black or White" (1991). He added that seeing the hype surrounding the project, he expected Gaga to release a song "as epic and instantly classic as The Beatles' 'A Day in the Life' or Queen's 'Bohemian Rhapsody'. Imagine what she'd come up with if she'd spent more than ten minutes writing [the song]."
A blond woman standing in front of a black and red wall, wearing a black dress, and with her hands on her waist.
"Born This Way" was compared by some critics to Madonna's 1989 single "Express Yourself", which Gaga said was completely unintentional.
Many critics noted similarities between "Born This Way" and Madonna's 1989 song, "Express Yourself". Popjustice website pointed out the influence of other Madonna songs like "Deeper and Deeper" (1992) and "Vogue" (1990). Rob Sheffield of Rolling Stone acknowledged the influences of Madonna but pointed out that they would not overshadow the song, as it "[summed] up all the complex Gaga mythos, all her politics and Catholic angst and smeared lipstick, in one brilliant pop blast." Caryn Ganz, while writing for Yahoo! Music, criticized "Born This Way", stating that the song was "overworked, overwrought, noisy, cheesy, and very, very derivative." She specifically noted the similarities to songs like "When Love Takes Over" (2010), "Waterfalls" (1995), and three of Madonna's songs: "Express Yourself", "Ray of Light" (1998), and "Vogue". Megan Friedman from Time and Marissa Moss from The Huffington Post summarized their reaction as "mixed", due to the similarities they found with "Express Yourself". Neil McCormick of The Daily Telegraph noted that the imitative nature of the song would affect perceptions of Gaga's artistry, since "Born This Way" was "[basically] a reworking of Madonna's 'Express Yourself' with a touch of 'Vogue', which is a bit too much Madonna for someone who is trying to establish her own identity as the, er, new Madonna."
"I certainly think [Gaga] references me a lot in her work," Madonna said in the ABC interview. "And sometimes I think it's amusing and flattering and well-done. When I heard ['Born This Way'] on the radio … I said, 'that sounds very familiar."
Ann Powers of the Los Angeles Times concluded that "Born This Way" had an entirely different message from the Madonna songs it was being compared to and further defended it by saying, "Whether its sound comes too close to one or another Madonna song seems beside the point; what current pop hit doesn't go green by recycling something familiar?". Gaga herself addressed the comparisons on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, explaining that she had received an e-mail from Madonna's representatives, who had mentioned their support for "Born This Way". "If the Queen says it shall be, then it shall be," she added. CNN later reported that Madonna's representatives were not aware that the singer, or her team, had sent Gaga an e-mail regarding the situation. Two months later, while getting interviewed by NME magazine, Gaga further addressed the comparisons to "Express Yourself":
"Why would I try to put out a song and think I'm getting one over everybody? That's retarded. I will look in your eyes and tell you that I'm not dumb enough or moronic enough to think that you are dumb or moronic enough not to see that I would have stolen a melody. If you put the songs next to each other, side by side, the only similarities are the chord progression. It's the same one that has been in disco music for the last 50 years. Just because I'm the first ****ing artist in 25 years to think of putting it on Top 40 radio, it doesn't mean I'm a plagiarist, it means I'm ****ing smart. Sorry."
When interviewed by ABC News in 2012, Madonna was asked about the similarities between "Born This Way" and "Express Yourself", stating: "When I heard ['Born This Way'] on the radio ... I said, 'that sounds very familiar' ... It felt reductive." She also came to report to The Newsweek Daily Beast Company what she had in mind when she heard "Born This Way": "I thought, 'What a wonderful way to redo my song'. I mean, I recognised the chord changes. I thought it was… interesting."
At the end of 2011, Slant Magazine listed "Born This Way" as the fifth best song of the year, with Ed Gonzalez from the website commenting that the song is an "unmistakable landmark pop-cultural moment, a post-irony, post-metaphor, pansexual celebration, aimed squarely at the audience that probably needs it the most." It also placed the same rank on the list by MTV, with Gil Kaufman from the channel saying that the song and the music video "added to Gaga's mind-tripping visual canon and further established her as one of the biggest triple threats in music." PopMatters listed it at position 73 on their list of "The 75 Best Songs of 2011", with Sean McCarthy from the website saying that although Born This Way "is a labor to listen to because of its over-the-topness. No such problems exist with the title track. All of the Gaga's strengths on her one-hour monolith are condensed into a four-minute unstoppable ode to the outcasts of the world." Furthermore, The Guardian listed "Born This Way" as the 18th best song of 2011."
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Wow, this went so far
I thought ATRL hated it.
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Originally posted by Subomie
Wow, this went so far
I thought ATRL hated it.
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Gaga, the ATRL Monsters, their power
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Good songs except the obvious.
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Yes, my power
I wasn't even expecting it to make Top 10 so I gave it a #1 as a stan duty.
It werqed.
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Good songs except the obvious.
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State which ones
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Originally posted by berberocka
State which ones
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Breakaway, I guess.
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Originally posted by SebaMonster
Breakaway, I guess.
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Yep
I do have problems with BTW but overall it still bops so there.
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#06
BRITNEY SPEARS - "Circus"
513 points
Number of Voters: 21
Highest Voter: Ozzy8923 ; Pedro ; Haus-Of_Mck [#1]
Quicksand [#2]
Nait Phoenix [#3]
Carlton [#4]
inagalaxyfar ; Beatfreak [#7]
ianBK4 [#8]
josh_923 [#10]
Mr. Duff ; berberocka [#11]
alfonso12 ; atrlster [#12]
Janelle Monae ; sumthintoxic82 [#13]
I'mRihannafan [#16]
Soda Pop Queen ; JO3Y [#17]
superiore-93 [#19]
supaspaz [#20]
Album : Circus (2008)
Track No: 2
Genre: Dance-pop ; electropop
Writer: Claude Kelly, Lukasz Gottwald, Benjamin Levin
Producer: Dr. Luke, Benny Blanco
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"Circus" was acclaimed by music critics. Nick Levine of Digital Spy described it as "a rampaging monster of a song whose chorus kicks off with a Max Martin-style and Timbaland thump". Popjustice praised the production of the song, compared it to "Break the Ice" and added, "there's a lot of stopping and starting, including a built-in MTV-style dance breakdown segment." Chris Williams of Billboard in its single review appreciated the song for surrounding Spears with "an electronic cyberpop landscape". In the album review, Ann Donahue of Billboard criticized the lyrics for rehashing the theme of fame and compared it to "Lucky" (2000) and "Piece of Me" (2007). Dave De Sylvia of Sputnikmusic said that while "Womanizer" sounded like a Blackout track, "Circus" is more reflective of the album’s general mood. Dan Cairns of The Sunday Times named it one of the standout tracks of the album, along with "If U Seek Amy" and "Mannequin". Entertainment Weekly writer Chris Willman noted that, despite the album being titled Circus, the title track is "not about the madhouse her life has become but just a brag about her prowess as a whip-cracking sexual ringmaster."
Poppy Cosyns of The Sun said Spears "reaffirm[s] her bad-girl image on the album's infectious second single", while BBC Music's Talia Kraines thought that the singer "loves the attention being shone directly on her as the 'ringleader' as she sings of adrenaline flowing through her veins when it's time to put on a show." Ben Norman of About.com considered the song a "true and triumphant Britney Spears pop song with a pensive underbelly (the first verse in particular) and a supremely executed hook." Jonny Mugwump of The Quietus said, "a paean to her performance adrenalin, ["Circus" is] a medium-paced, big power-popper topped with an orbit-esque guitar," and commented that the song's lyrics highlight Spears' uniqueness - "the **** you attitude. Despite everything, regardless of the personal destruction and undoubted hell she might still be haunted by, within the fictional space of the music, this woman couldn't give a damn. She rightly taunts the world around her, sounding utterly defiant. There is no place for apology or humble platitudes." John Murphy of musicOMH also praised its lyrics, describing them as "a confident, and encouraging, return to form."
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Madonna made the top 5
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Breakaway and Circus
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Not Teenage Dream outdoing those I demand a recount
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Best single from Circus.
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I like this song and the Hurt-inspired music video
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So far the top ten is okay. I like most of the songs, but not more than a lot of what has already appeared. I guess when it comes to an ATRL countdown, I should expect the obvious by now.
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I should've participated.
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Red (my #1) made it into the top ten
Honestly one of my top ten favourite songs she has ever done!
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