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Poll: Most impactful black female artist of the last 40 years?
View Poll Results: Who?
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Aaliyah
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18 |
6.32% |
Mariah
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85 |
29.82% |
Whitney
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145 |
50.88% |
Beyonce
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111 |
38.95% |
Rihanna
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64 |
22.46% |
Janet
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85 |
29.82% |
TLC
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15 |
5.26% |
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Originally posted by Chimier
Whitney, Janet and Donna Summer.
Donna Summer is one of the prototypes for the pop diva, as well as being ahead of her time musically. She defined an entire genre and era of music.
Janet is the performer's performer. No other female artist in the past four decades has had the same kind of influence and effect on the stage as she has. Another one who was highly innovative musically.
Whitney is the singer's singer, by far the most influential vocalist of the past four decades and the first modern-era pop diva.
In terms of breaking barriers, they were all thriving in a white man's world.
Donna's only "rivals" in the disco arena were the Bee Gees. From 1975-1979, she scored four #1s, 10 Top 10 hits, and had three consecutive #1 albums.
Janet's chart longevity is unparalleled. A total of 7 Top 5 hits from one album and 18 Top 10 singles in a row, including a total of 10 #1s. Her style of R&B was edgy and innovative, but had enough commercial feel to cross over in a huge way, hence the multiplatinum album sales.
Whitney broke the Beatles and the Bee Gee's records for most consecutive #1 hits, scoring 7. First female artist to score a diamond album, best-selling debut album by an artist EVER (at the time), had sold 85 million albums by 1993.
Their success, especially Whitney's, is significant, because it showed just how marketable black women in music were, and that they could have the same kind of commercial clout as their white peers, male or female and it represented a shift in the industry from male dominance to a more female-oriented space. There have always been black female artists who have rivaled their male and white counterparts (ex. The Supremes rivaled The Beatles in chart dominance and success), but since the arrival and success of Whitney, it just went to another level.
That's why the answer to this could never be Beyonce, Rihanna or whoever. They're nowhere near as significant, nor have they contributed to music/the progression of artists (whether in sound, image, or opportunities) as much as they have been afforded by people such as Diana, Aretha, Donna, Whitney, Janet etc.
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This post is perfect. Well said.
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I don't even know why y'all are arguing, it's clearly Whitney. All but one or two of the women in the poll alone have said they were influenced by her.
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patti , Aretha , Whitney , bey
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Originally posted by Lasers
Not you making up your OWN definitions as if you are some type of authority. Girl, Bye!
Influence and impact BOTH are similies to each other. They go hand in hand no matter what bullsh!t you try to pull out of your @ss hun. Where are your reciepts for your reasonings? Just some sh!t you stirred up in your head? 😂
Definitions from a dictionary>>>> definitions from an atrl poster.
And thats just the bottom line.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lasers
Not you making up your OWN definitions as if you are some type of authority. Girl, Bye!
Influence and impact BOTH are similies to each other. They go hand in hand no matter what bullsh!t you try to pull out of your @ss hun. Where are your reciepts for your reasonings? Just some sh!t you stirred up in your head? 😂
Definitions from a dictionary>>>> definitions from an atrl poster.
And thats just the bottom line.
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Janet's impact > Aaliyah's.
Whitney's impact > Aaliyah's.
Mariah's impact > Aaliyah's.
Get over it.
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All these fumes for lil ol' no impact/influence liyah a mess. a kiii. a cackle.
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From the list, it'd be Whitney, Janet and Mariah.
Donna Summer and Diana Ross should be there too.
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Originally posted by KingOfUrbanPop
All these fumes for lil ol' no impact/influence liyah a mess. a kiii. a cackle.
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No one's fuming. Y'all Aaliyah stans and your tendency to over-exaggerate.
No one said she had no impact or influence. It's just nowhere near a Whitney, a Janet or a Mariah. Let it go.
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Diana Ross
Her success, and more importantly, the way white America embraced her, paved the way for Donna, Whitney and Janet. She should be #1 regardless.
Whitney and Janet were able to break further ground and pave the way for the artists that came after them.
From her debut until just after the Bodyguard era (perhaps up until 1995) Whitney was the biggest female artist. I don't care how the media portrays it. Whitney was the biggest (along with being the most respected). Singers want to be singers because of Whitney. lol
Janet broke ground in that she wasn't doing pop music. Yet, she became so big, and crossed over in such a way that it actually became part of the "pop" genre. That's impact. lol
The topics she covered in her music female empowerment, social injustice, sexuality, etc paved the way for those same topics to be accepted coming from other black female artists (Beyonce).
The answer is:
1.) Diana
2.) Whitney
3.) Janet
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Originally posted by Chimier
No one's fuming. Y'all Aaliyah stans and your tendency to over-exaggerate.
No one said she had no impact or influence. It's just nowhere near a Whitney, a Janet or a Mariah. Let it go.
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First of all DON'T try to group a ENTIRE fanbase with that claim, if anything she's "over-exaggerated" because people like 90% of ATRL downplay her when clearly outclasses people with 70M followers and cant even get a platinum album and release REDUCTIVE MUSIC.
Secondly, where did I say she was on the same level as "a Whitney, a Janet or a Mariah"??? I'm waiting especially when I stan for Mariah so what exactly am I "letting go"?
Thirdly, as others we're commented earlier "why argue when its clearly _________ (artist that is not Aaliyah) if you don't agree why argue? Don't see anyone trying Bey or Rih fans in this thread but EVERYONE wants to try AALIYAH....wonder why
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Why is Beyonce even in there. Everything she had done was already did and door broken down b other a haha
But Janet and Whitney
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Originally posted by Miracle
Donna or Diana
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Btw, why is a girl with three albums even there? I know she sold like around 40Million copies but that's no huge deal regarding the time she released her albums
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Originally posted by Miracle
Btw, why is a girl with three albums even there? I know she sold like around 40Million copies but that's no huge deal regarding the time she released her albums
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Maybe cause those 3 albums had actual impact and influence not only in music but fashion as well not everybody has that
40M albums > certain artists in the poll with less
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Beyoncé? Girl bye enough internet for today.
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Beyonce? The fact that she has that many votes as well BYEEE lmao
higher than Mariah as welll lmao
Anyways Whitney and Mariah
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Whitney Houston hands down.
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Originally posted by KingOfUrbanPop
All these fumes for lil ol' no impact/influence liyah a mess. a kiii. a cackle.
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Said "fuming" didn't start until someone got in their feelings when I said Aaliyah was out of the running.
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Originally posted by KingOfUrbanPop
First of all DON'T try to group a ENTIRE fanbase with that claim, if anything she's "over-exaggerated" because people like 90% of ATRL downplay her when clearly outclasses people with 70M followers and cant even get a platinum album and release REDUCTIVE MUSIC.
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Like I said, Y'ALL Aaliyah fans have a tendency to over-exaggerate.
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Originally posted by KingOfUrbanPop
Secondly, where did I say she was on the same level as "a Whitney, a Janet or a Mariah"??? I'm waiting especially when I stan for Mariah so what exactly am I "letting go"?
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It doesn't matter whether you said it or not. I said it. And it still stands.
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Originally posted by KingOfUrbanPop
Thirdly, as others we're commented earlier "why argue when its clearly _________ (artist that is not Aaliyah) if you don't agree why argue? Don't see anyone trying Bey or Rih fans in this thread but EVERYONE wants to try AALIYAH....wonder why
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Well, I guess that's something you're gonna have to deal with.
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Originally posted by KingOfUrbanPop
Maybe cause those 3 albums had actual impact and influence not only in music but fashion as well not everybody has that
40M albums > certain artists in the poll with less
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40 million albums where? In Neverland? Thank you for proving my point about y'all over-exaggerating.
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Mariah had massive hits but I don't see the impact on the same level as Janet and Whitney who helped redefined pop music and pop stardom.
And the insult of including Rihanna and Beyonce...
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