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Poll: Should straight people get to decide what's homophobic?
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Yes, str8s should be able to deny gay people calling something homophobic.
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No, straight people don't get to decide what's homophobic.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 34,855
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Originally posted by brandensuxx
The probability of this EVER happening is 0
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He knows. He makes posts like this regularly and intentionally. It's best not to indulge him.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by Meowster
All you have to do is stop saying it. The power of words.
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I don't say it though
I just defend the innocent people who say it without trying to be offensive
If you're offended by something let the person know and then you'll see if they're actually homophobic or if they're just ignorant of it's implications
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Ari Auris
I don't say it though
I just defend the innocent people who say it without trying to be offensive
If you're offended by something let the person know and then you'll see if they're actually homophobic or if they're just ignorant of it's implications
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They aren't innocent is the point.
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Member Since: 5/14/2012
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Originally posted by Ari Auris
I don't say it though
I just defend the innocent people who say it without trying to be offensive
If you're offended by something let the person know and then you'll see if they're actually homophobic or if they're just ignorant of it's implications
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I get what you're saying, and we do that (hence the discussion in this thread) but when we do, we get called sensitive, our panties are in a bunch, etc.
It's a lose-lose situation for us regardless. We get offended by their comments and then get called sensitive for being offended. A mess.
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Originally posted by Meowster
They aren't innocent is the point.
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You know what
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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when peopple try to use the word "gay" as an insult on me or anything else for that matter, I really don't take offense
I always say "Gay is not an insult, an insult would be, for instance, you're an ignorant bitch with no education on the word "gay". see that's an insult."
if you get mad over people callng you gay that means you take gay as an insult and you're as dumb as they are.
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by Ari Auris
I don't use it though because I don't like to risk offending people
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Then why the **** are you wasting all this time defending its use in this thread? You make 0 sense
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 2,610
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Originally posted by Goosey
Oh please. Straight people can tell what's homophobic just like white people can tell what's racist. If it's impossible for straight people to know what "homophobic" means how would any of them refrain from saying homophobic things? Laughable!
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Muting your ass. Straight people will never be able to tell what's offensive to gay people as well as gay people. They STILL think it's ok to say *** and gay (when they really mean stupid or dumb) and etc. when really it's not, just look at the vine boys and their stans. They think they're not being homophobic because they do 'bromance' or whatever, when really they're being homophobic and embarassing. Making us look like a joke.
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Originally posted by psychodj
I get what you're saying, and we do that (hence the discussion in this thread) but when we do, we get called sensitive, our panties are in a bunch, etc.
it's a lose-lose situation for us regardless. We get offended and then get called sensitive for being offended. A mess.
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If you're offended by it and someone either doesn't care or continues to use it after you tell them then it's obviously homophobic. I 100% agree with that.
It's also homophobic when people get mad at gays defending their offense
If one calls another sensitive and doesn't back off that's atrocious and I agree it's wrong on a matter of mere disrespect and inequal treatment
Please tell me this makes more sense
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Member Since: 5/7/2012
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Originally posted by psychodj
I get what you're saying, and we do that (hence the discussion in this thread) but when we do, we get called sensitive, our panties are in a bunch, etc.
It's a lose-lose situation for us regardless. We get offended by their comments and then get called sensitive for being offended. A mess.
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This is people in power trying to keep minorities down. Because with this way of thinking, they are allowed to be as offensive as they want, and the people being targeted aren't allowed to say anything about it lest they be called "sensitive", which is really just the appropriate reaction to something like that. They are trying to silence you to keep themselves in power. Never give in to that. I will always call people out when they're being offensive and I don't give a rats ass if I get called sensitive.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Starburst
Actually I love being gay. But the community has definitely lost its sense of direction and we've become a bunch of cry babies. We're very influenced by feminist culture and this discussion proves it. Sure we can spend all day analyzing the various ways in which we are oppressed, but what does it accomplish? We don't strive for anything anymore, we have just sort of become complacent with being victims.
And yes, sorry for wanting straights to become generally more accepting of us, because that isn't what the entire LGBT movement is about in the first place.
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Girl bye, your response to the OP is contrary to your argument. I wouldn't be crying or playing the victim if something hurt. And it's not pain from offense, it's pain from gay people being accepted as what straights prefer them to be instead of gay people being accepted as they are.
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by Guernica
What does blatantly ignoring homophobia and negative meanings attached to the word gay accomplish The only way to end prejudice is to attack it head on and not be silent on the matter. Sitting here and calling the fellow members of your community cry babies does nothing but divide you, and the straight community has already divided themselves from the gay community. You have to stand strong against your fellow gays and support each other, that is the only real way to end homophobia. Not catering to the straight community and what they deem acceptable.
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Letting homophobia bother you and trying to "correct" homophobes is not standing strong. It's quite the opposite.
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Member Since: 5/14/2012
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Originally posted by Ari Auris
If you're offended by it and someone either doesn't care or continues to use it after you tell them then it's obviously homophobic. I 100% agree with that.
It's also homophobic when people get mad at gays defending their offense
If one calls another sensitive and doesn't back off that's atrocious and I agree it's wrong on a matter of mere disrespect and inequal treatment
Please tell me this makes more sense
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I agree with you completely. I get what you're saying.
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Originally posted by Guernica
This is people in power trying to keep minorities down. Because with this way of thinking, they are allowed to be as offensive as they want, and the people being targeted aren't allowed to say anything about it lest they be called "sensitive", which is really just the appropriate reaction to something like that. They are trying to silence you to keep themselves in power. Never give in to that. I will always call people out when they're being offensive and I don't give a rats ass if I get called sensitive.
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Preach.
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Originally posted by psychodj
I agree with you completely. I get what you're saying.
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Originally posted by Starburst
Letting homophobia bother you and trying to "correct" homophobes is not standing strong. It's quite the opposite.
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So let me get this straight, this is what you believe?:
"Letting homophobia not bother you and doing nothing about homophobes is standing strong"
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by GoddessofLove
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/closethread
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Originally posted by Starburst
Letting homophobia bother you and trying to "correct" homophobes is not standing strong. It's quite the opposite.
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Letting yourself be complacent with your second-class status in society and not calling people out on their homophobic bs is not "strong." All you're doing is allowing people to think what they're doing is okay and continues to perpetuate our status in society.
But then again you use the word "feminist" as though it's a bad thing so my words are probably falling on willfully deaf ears.
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Originally posted by Starburst
Letting homophobia bother you and trying to "correct" homophobes is not standing strong. It's quite the opposite.
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Letting homophobia bother me? What is letting homophobia bother me? Not being allowed to get married, not being allowed to adopt children, not having protection against being discriminated in the workplace and potentially losing jobs solely because of my sexual orientation? Me getting upset by those things because I am not treated like a normal human being and instead like some freakshow who isn't worthy of a happy life is me getting bothered? Well then yes, I am bothered as hell
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Starburst
Letting homophobia bother you and trying to "correct" homophobes is not standing strong. It's quite the opposite.
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Don't racist people use this argument about racist slurs?
A white person defending using the n word tea
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by HotHeaven
when peopple try to use the word "gay" as an insult on me or anything else for that matter, I really don't take offense
I always say "Gay is not an insult, an insult would be, for instance, you're an ignorant bitch with no education on the word "gay". see that's an insult."
if you get mad over people callng you gay that means you take gay as an insult and you're as dumb as they are.
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While I don't disagree with you completely. I think you're missing the point that some people are genuinely offended by the use of the word in the wrong manner. You can't really tell people what they can and can't be offended by, and that's not dumb, it's just just a fact of life. We all have our own sensitivities, but I choose to move past that because it only holds me back.
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