[Retro]

Originally posted by Delita_chan

Wow, I hope you whiners of homework never apply to college - you'll be slapped with more than 2+ hours of homework each night! Don't even think of the graduate program or PhD - even more work! My master's courses required 200 pages of reading per week - PER CLASS. Papers for each class were 17-20 pages each. Add to that the fact that I work full time and took a full-load. Had I not learned to manage my time by getting 2+ hour night homework assignments, I wouldn't have made it.
Bottom line - you don't want to work hard - okay. But don't apply for college and don't expect the best quality of life. Take a minimum wage job so you can have your "free time" to be on ATRL.

2+ hours? I'd take that over what I do now ANY time.

[Scandal & Media]

Originally posted by Retro

That's hardly the point of this. After your education is over, sure you have more responsibilities, but you don't have to learn the entire French Revolution and the limit process in a single night and pile on four more classes in addition, like my teachers have tried to do.

The real world is slightly more reasonable, as I gather, than high school teachers.

Originally posted by Retro

Currently homework is just excessive. I do not have the time to spend 2+ hours on each class every night. There is quite literally not enough time in the day after a 7 hour school day to have a healthy, human amount of sleep and fit in the load of homework my classes are trying to shove onto me. Every teacher thinks that their work is the main priority, the only thing we have to do for homework that night, and it piles on to a ridiculous extent.

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[Robotic]

Originally posted by Retro

My point was that not everyone's struggles with completely unreasonable amounts of homework are due to procrastination or laziness.

What's unreasonable amounts of workload/homework to you? Since I am a med student, I do have a sense of what is reasonable and unreasonable. Tell me.

[Delita_chan]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

Maybe my view is colored because I have graduated college already, but I 100% agree.

Even the worst experiences expressed here seem tame compared to a few of my semesters. For example... my student teaching. I am at school from 7 am to 4 pm every day. I get up at 4 so I can spend 2 hours preparing for the day. In the evening I do my own homework (student teachers have classes too). In addition I have interviews, and a credentials file to put together. I then work my other job on weekends.



Sure, and to be honest I was HORRIBLE with homework in high school.

Are anatomy and economics required classes? Those don't seem very standard.

Greetings from one "Veteran" teacher to another (I'm celebrating year 10). I'm also a 3rd year college professor. I get your workload - as i stated in the other post, my workdays are crazy busy. After school, I teach at the university. Then on some days, I take dance lessons. I do not feel overwhelmed in the least.
Ah yes, I also direct a small musical at my school, which eats my weekends
I do not give my excessive homework - but it's appalling how many still wont do it and complain. Yet they want to get into the magnet schools, early college stuff, etc.

[psychodj]

Originally posted by Flare

It's funny how the people shouting about how great the excessive workloads haven't learned Freshman Psychology; not everyone's brains are the same.
Everyone doesn't have the same focus, ability to process loads of information and memory.
Excessive homework of all doesn't help all get where they want to go in life even if they don't procrastinate and have determination.

I agree with this.

[Mhs90]

I feel like they are stressing out kids way too early. It's all about the rat race.

[Neonika]

im never used to do homeworkd and look at me now

[psychodj]

Originally posted by Retro

2+ hours? I'd take that over what I do now ANY time.

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2 hours a night for homework? I'd never complain.

[psychodj]

Originally posted by Neonika

im never used to do homeworkd and look at me now

Now sis, you know this isn't the best example..

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by Flare

Everyone doesn't have the same focus, ability to process loads of information and memory.
Excessive homework of all doesn't help all get where they want to go in life even if they don't procrastinate and have determination.

If you focus and ability is so low that you cannot keep up then you should not be in the mainstream student pool anyways. You can't hold everyone else back to accommodate the slowest student in the class.

[Scandal & Media]

Hasn't Finland gotten rid of homework nationwide? They're one of the best countries for education too, no?

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by Mhs90

I feel like they are stressing out kids way too early. It's all about the rat race.

The problem is that we live in an incredibly competitive world. It would be swell if that was not the case, but it is. If you want to get ahead you have to work for it on some level.

[Flare]

Originally posted by Delita_chan

Again, as I stated in my next post, homework also teaches time management. Good for you that you breezed through high school AND college, but what prepared you for it? INSTILLING GOOD WORK HABITS, which is what the homework has done. Do you think you would have had those habits if you'd NOT done homework? There's learning going on - learning hard work and time management.

Please explain how students in ASIA, particularly Japan, are coping with it. And please dont tell me that they all commit suicide, because the reasons for that vary. Elementary students leave school at 3:30 and go to cram school. Many high schoolers leave their educational settings at 10pm. As one who spent time in Japan, I can attest that our "excessive work load" is about normal for that country.

And no, I do not begrudge the workload I dealt with - I am fully appreciative of the valuable skills it instilled in me. Teaching is NOT an easy job - our work loads far exceed the 8-4pm work day. Add my 2nd job at the university and 3 hours of dance courses. Guess what? I can DO IT because I learned how to cope with excessive work loads.

I stand my ground - if you cannot handle workloads, don't apply for college or even graduate schools!

I don't have good work habits. My work habits are horrible.
What prepared me for College is the fact that I'm determined to be there and actually get an education so, I can get where I want to go later in life.
Oh and homework was always my weakest area during school. Only 11th grade I really decided to start trying.

We're not going into Asian school children because this is a US study for US schools. Apples and Oranges.

You're begrudging the kids who can't do what you did to get to where you are. It's unfair.
Not everyone is you. Get over yourself.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Robotic

What's unreasonable amounts of workload/homework to you? Since I am a med student, I do have a sense of what is reasonable and unreasonable. Tell me.

I wake up I get dressed, and I drive to school, spending approximately 7 hours there.

I go home, and spend around the next 8 or so on average on papers, worksheets, math lessons, and projects.

Now, on days I don't have that, I'm pretty darn happy! But I also have a job at a theater many nights out of the week - entirely my choice on that, of course, and I'm lucky I have a boss that lets me do homework on the downtime. But it's still hard to do when I'm expected to fit that job into my schedule on top of 6 - 10 hours of homework, because I'm responsible for a lot of expenses myself.

In college, a lot of these expenses will go a way and I'm hoping to have a couple hours of free time every other night - especially since I'll be working to pay off my tuition.

Sure, I'm not in med school, but I'm a high school senior. I'm not working toward a graduate degree (and probably won't be). Relative to a high school, 18-year-old-kid setting, this is too much.

[Robotic]

" I am not able to focus", " every brain is different"

Excuse after excuse.

[Flare]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

If you focus and ability is so low that you cannot keep up then you should not be in the mainstream student pool anyways. You can't hold everyone else back to accommodate the slowest student in the class.

Thank you for reaching. I never said that. They have their own schools and classes that they can go to if that is an issue.
I'm talking about the general population of students, which there is a growing amount that have rising attention and focus problems.
I blame technology tbh.

[Mhs90]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

The problem is that we live in an incredibly competitive world. It would be swell if that was not the case, but it is. If you want to get ahead you have to work for it on some level.

Sure but not applicable for a 6-year old child.

[Delita_chan]

Originally posted by Mhs90

Sure but not applicable for a 6-year old child.

Depends. Many students at top notch universities prepare even at that age.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by Scandal & Media

Hasn't Finland gotten rid of homework nationwide? They're one of the best countries for education too, no?

False comparison.

The main culprit of high homework loads in the US is high schools (ages 16-18 generally). Finland's regular schools or "Comprehensive Schools" end at 16. The students then go on to college where there IS homework.

So really 16-18 year olds have homework in both systems. One is just labeled as a college while the other is not.

[Rainsford]

Homeworks are very necessary lol although I'm reading 2~3 books per week since I started Uni