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Discussion: Is Britney an Icon or a legend?
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Originally posted by Eternium
In 2007 she became the most photographed person of all-time, laid out another iconic performance, was the most searched person on the Internet (again), put out her magnum opus, etc.
2008 saw a huge comeback with two 3x platinum singles and a 1.7 million selling album.
2009 had TCSBS become her most successful tour and a #1 debut for "3" and the first non-American Idol #1 debut in years.
2011 had a #1 debut that broke first-week sales records at the time for a female, another platinum #1 album and an almost 3x platinum single.
2012 saw her gain $15 million for just sitting on X-Factor and she released a collaboration with will.i.am, of all people, and it became a humongous global hit.
How is that "nothing?"
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HAHA.. YAS! CLOCK 'EM!
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She's a has-been as for now. Too young to become a legend. Only Taylor Swift can do this
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Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld
She's a has-been as for now. Too young to become a legend. Only Taylor Swift can do this
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the Beyonce stans are so pressed
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Britney is an icon.
Icon = fame, easily recognizable, people know their life story etc.
Legend = Many, many years of an incredibly impressive, creative body of work (David Bowie, Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna, The Rolling Stones etc)
Britney might become a legend someday, but for right now she's an icon.
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Originally posted by Sunshine.
Ignorant sh*t like this is why you Britney stans should keep Bey out of your fonts.
Does Tina Turner have a memorable talked about performance?
Does Whitney Houston have an iconic magazine cover?
Does Prince have an iconic music video?
Ya'lls concept of what makes a legend has been so skewed to accommodate the negative trajectory of Brit's career that you've all become a parody.
Again stop talking about Bey.
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Originally posted by Sunshine.
Point is, Tina Turner's legacy is evaluated based on her whole body of work. Not one or two controversial performances here and there. Hence why she's still selling out arenas at 74 years old.
And those Prince videos are pretty obscure to the public at large...mmm. I'm a Prince stan, I would know. He's more referenced for his genius talent and musical experimentation.
And that's all fine and dandy to have iconic music videos, magazines, and performances. That makes Brit an undeniable icon. Good for her. Not many popstars will reach that status. No one's disputing it.
But don't try to place her up there with innovative and paradigm-shifting musicians.
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These posts....
Finally someone who gets it! "Iconic performances", magazine covers and music videos do not a legend make. What's funny to me is that usually, when people mention "iconic moments", they're only "iconic" to the stan universe. And for someone like Whitney Houston, who has a TRUE iconic moment with her performance of the SSB at Superbowl, that is not the reason or even A reason as to why she is a legend.
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Icon.
She is too average to be considered a legend.
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A legend for sure. Anyone who says otherwise is obviously pressed.
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
So she's done what ever other pop star has managed to do within the past 5 years. Congrats, everyone is a legend then if having a high grossing tour, a #1 album, sell less then 3 million albums and some top 10 hits is what it takes to continue on a path to becoming a legend. WTG pop stars ALL OVER.
This isn't up for a debate. I said ICON. Get over it.
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So according to you no one ever was a legend, cause what made everyone legends was them sales and chart positions in the first place
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It's sick how the beyonce stans are obsessed to downgrade britney.
I love beyonce but her fan-base are a bunch of horrible people honestly. And when britney and beyonce completely fade away, because they both will! Britney is gonna be waay more remembered, even if beyonce is more talented, people have never cared as much as they cared about britney when she was still in the top of her game
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
So she's done what ever other pop star has managed to do within the past 5 years. Congrats, everyone is a legend then if having a high grossing tour, a #1 album, sell less then 3 million albums and some top 10 hits is what it takes to continue on a path to becoming a legend. WTG pop stars ALL OVER.
This isn't up for a debate. I said ICON. Get over it.
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Who else became the most photographed person in the last 5 years? And who else debuted at #1 twice? And what makes her achievements impressive is she's adding on to her already impressive career. She's got two of the best-selling albums of all-time WW. You need to stop before that bald patch in your head spreads to full pattern baldness.
And of course you said icon. Your fave's WW solo album sales are just now approaching her first album's WW sales. You couldn't make it any more clear you're pressed.
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Originally posted by Trent W
And when britney and beyonce completely fade away, because they both will!
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I'd say Britney's winning that race.
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Originally posted by BlueGangsta
britney has more longevity than beyonce
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Except that's blatantly not true
Which one does the GP still care for 15 years into her career (keeping in mind a small base of devoted yt twinks =/= GP). Who has the #1 female album of the year 15 years into her career, with only 3 weeks of sales? Could any release of Britney's done in any way (surprise release, release with pre-promo, release from Mars, etc) draw the amount of exposure BEYONCE did? in 2008-14, that is.
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Originally posted by Sunshine.
I'd say Britney's winning that race.
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Swift clock
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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a pop icon
to the gays shes a legend tho
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr
Except that's blatantly not true
Which one does the GP still care for 15 years into her career (keeping in mind a small base of devoted yt twinks =/= GP). Who has the #1 female album of the year 15 years into her career, with only 3 weeks of sales? Could any release of Britney's done in any way (surprise release, release with pre-promo, release from Mars, etc) draw the amount of exposure BEYONCE did? in 2008-14, that is.
Swift clock
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In recent years, Circus and BO had more exposure. BO thanks to Britney's iconic 2007 VMA performance and her infamous meltdown. Granted she was much more polarizing and risky than Beyonce, so she drew considerably less sales. Circus also had more play thanks to her 5150 hold in the beginning of the year and comeback. For promo she had a GMA performance (her first American performance since the 2007 VMAs and second American performance in the last four years) and a VMAs appearance. She opened with 505k.
On the flip side, Beyonce did the SuperBowl and a huge Pepsi commercial deal for "Grown Woman." On top of that she performed at the Inauguration and appeared at the Grammys (I believe). Despite being considerably less polarizing and having a much, much bigger pre-promotional plan, she only pulled a bit over 100k more than "Circus." You act like Beyonce dwarfed her LOL
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Originally posted by Eternium
In recent years, Circus and BO had more exposure. BO thanks to Britney's iconic 2007 VMA performance and her infamous meltdown. Granted she was much more polarizing and risky than Beyonce, so she drew considerably less sales. Circus also had more play thanks to her 5150 hold in the beginning of the year and comeback. For promo she had a GMA performance (her first American performance since the 2007 VMAs and second American performance in the last four years) and a VMAs appearance. She opened with 505k.
On the flip side, Beyonce did the SuperBowl and a huge Pepsi commercial deal for "Grown Woman." On top of that she performed at the Inauguration and appeared at the Grammys (I believe). Despite being considerably less polarizing and having a much, much bigger pre-promotional plan, she only pulled a bit over 100k more than "Circus." You act like Beyonce dwarfed her LOL
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LMAO @ "pre-promotional plan". You must be an A&R exec or a head of some nonexistent marketing and promotion department.
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Originally posted by Chimier
LMAO @ "pre-promotional plan". You must be an A&R exec or a head of some nonexistent marketing and promotion department.
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No, I'm just not 12. Please tell me how the Superbowl and a $50 million commercial deal don't count as promotion, though, despite them being two of the three biggest promotional platforms WW.
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