[LDYGG]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

To be honest, he's been making the transition for a long time and people don't even realize it happening.

Even around here, the tide has changed so much from when I first joined. I used to be able to cause major meltdowns in the Born This Way thread and reduce it to senseless insults by posting any arbitrary picture of the kid, and slowly, he's crept up.

People are definitely becoming used to him and he's not as polarizing as he used to be. Maybe people have realized that there's really no reason to hate on him (besides the usual and occasional bad attitude). Most of the insults are always about his looks or about "being a girl".

[RobynYoBank]

Originally posted by LDYGG

People are definitely becoming used to him and he's not as polarizing as he used to be. Maybe people have realized that there's really no reason to hate on him (besides the usual and occasional bad attitude). Most of the insults are always about his looks or about "being a girl".

He and his team have always been aware of this. It's not a coincidence that they spent almost two years releasing remix albums, perfumes, and movies instead of his next true studio album. It was always something that had to be handled carefully.

And for all of the people that are always trying to throw his commercialization under the bus as a way of demeaning his artistic integrity...I'm sorry, but his brand is much more important than creating something "revolutionary" that would please a bothered gay anti-stan. Business and marketing are an art, and when it comes to Bieber, we're talking about a BILLION dollar brand.

Whatever type of revolutionary whatchamadoodle everyone supposedly wants around here can wait.

[minxie]

I think y'all are being a smidge too hopeful. I mean, there's no reason to believe you can't come off a huge era and then fall off (see: Jonas Brothers' A Little Bit Longer --> Lines Vines & Trying Times) but as of right now, concluding he's fading because of a flop NBC special is a bit much -- and I'm saying that as someone who can't stand him.

[Middle of Selena]

Anything which goes up must comes down

[Middle of Selena]

i guess his fans realized that he is just using them for the success and to be precise to get the number 1 single on BB hot 100 i am happy that they they r leaving him alone there r so many hot and talented boys out there

[LDYGG]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

He and his team have always been aware of this. It's not a coincidence that they spent almost two years releasing remix albums, perfumes, and movies instead of his next true studio album. It was always something that had to be handled carefully.

And for all of the people that are always trying to throw his commercialization under the bus as a way of demeaning his artistic integrity...I'm sorry, but his brand is much more important than creating something "revolutionary" that would please a bothered gay anti-stan. Business and marketing are an art, and when it comes to Bieber, we're talking about a BILLION dollar brand.

Whatever type of revolutionary whatchamadoodle everyone supposedly wants around here can wait.

A billion-dollar brand it may be, but it's based on something that is unstable. Unless he quickly finds a way to appeal to people outside of his demographic, his brand will tank the moment those girls grow up.

[IVY]

I think you all missing one important point which is bieber isn't that talented and he always lacks whenever he's performing live, so if non fans happen to watch one of his live performances they would turn off the TV or change the channel, because in general artists can make new fans or increase their songs' sales whenever they have a chance of performing live at awards shows and offer a strong live act, but with bieber him performing make the song sounds bad even if it was actually good on the CD. And that's why his live performances don't have a lot of effect.

[sweetkiss]

he is talented, im sorry you cant hear that.

[LDYGG]

Originally posted by sweetkiss

he is talented, im sorry you cant hear that.

He may be talented in the sense that he can sing, but he's not that great of a performer, which takes more than singing.

[Peep Show]

Originally posted by LDYGG

He may be talented in the sense that he can sing, but he's not that great of a performer, which takes more than singing.

Okay

[Igrt]

Originally posted by Damien M

Hmmmm. I wouldnt use network ratings as a pointer to that... But its kinda getting clear that the noveltys wearing off.

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[LDYGG]

Originally posted by Peep Show

Okay

Do you have proof that says otherwise?

[Willy.]

I'm not a fan, but the fact that his entire tour itinerary sold-out in a few days after release, as well as increasing album sales and all of that can say that he's just beginning.

He's also in that transition stage that we saw with all the young artists, like Britney from her second to third album.

[POWERhugh]

The 18-49 was crap cos all his fans are 13

[Benzene]

Let's not talk talent, Bieber is still more talented than most of the girls worshipped on this site.

As for the question, I wouldn't use the special as a indicator, as those type of artist specials are rarely ratings blockbusters. That said, he's getting older, and the teen phenom novelty is beginning to wear off. But it's a bit too early to say that he won't transition into a successful adult artist.

[rocketinthesky]

Originally posted by Benzene

Let's not talk talent, Bieber is still more talented than most of the girls worshipped on this site.

As for the question, I wouldn't use the special as a indicator, as those type of artist specials are rarely ratings blockbusters. That said, he's getting older, and the teen phenom novelty is beginning to wear off. But it's a bit too early to say that he won't transition into a successful adult artist.

[thediscomonkey]

Part 2 rating is in.

Justin Bieber's NBC ratings dip lower for Part 2

Part 2 of Justin Bieber’s NBC concert tour special All Around the World dipped slightly in the ratings Thursday night.
The Beebs pulled 3.1 million viewers and a 0.8 in the adult demo at 8 p.m., down a tenth from the special’s modest Wednesday-night premiere (did he compare himself to the Beatles and Michael Jackson again? Sorta). NBC says many of Bieber’s fans probably watched the show online.
The night’s big winner: Game 5 of the NBA Finals, whose accurate numbers won’t be in until later today. Based on early figures, the ABC telecast easily dominated the evening. While Fox’s dating game shows – Take Me Out (3.1 million, 1.2) and The Choice (4.2 million, 1.5) — continued to perform softly.

EW

[Benzene]

Originally posted by rocketinthesky

I can't see the gif on my phone, so I can only assume you agree. Notice I said most, not all.

[phreshprince]

I think Bieber is starting to become more respected and well known through his talent instead of his persona/fans but his fans are just continuing to grow. He's still big, but he's not the IT guy in the music industry anymore, just like Lady Gaga isn't the IT girl in the music industry anymore either which many people to think that means they're fading~

[hausofbryan]

Originally posted by phreshprince

I think Bieber is starting to become more respected and well known through his talent instead of his persona/fans but his fans are just continuing to grow. He's still big, but he's not the IT guy in the music industry anymore, just like Lady Gaga isn't the IT girl in the music industry anymore either which many people to think that means they're fading~

I've never heard someone say they're beginning to respect Bieber.

Lady Gaga can still pull TV ratings, so not a fair comparison at all.