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Discussion: Is Kelly Clarkson the MAIN REASON why AI is very successful?
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Grasping at straws. Post those album sales for My December and All I Ever Wanted.
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1.1 and 1.3 million. Stronger is looking to outsell both albums (if it hasn't already). Not only is she still gett consistent success, but she's seeing the most success she's seen since her peak. Whether you admit it or not, she's consistent success, just not as big as her peak.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Pink, Beyonce, Alicia Keys, etc. are examples of "consistent." Kelly's success has been scattered.
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So, since you provide concrete examples to fully prove your point of the definition might as well specify the point on which they had been "consistent". Just going through with your examples, I believe your definition of consistency is flawed.
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AI is the MAIN REASON why Kelly Clarkson is very successful
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Why so many people try to discredit Kelly like that?
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Uh no. I don't know how successful American Idol is now compared to when it debuted, but like already mentioned.. reality shows were starting to popular in the early 2000s. The whole talent contest thing was a fresh idea, so people were immediately interested in the program.
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I don't think so. People just love those reality shows doesn't matter which kind of it. I mean there are AI, X-Factor, The Voice, upcoming Duets, Amazing Race, America's Next Top Model, *Country*'s got talent and others. And people love to have favorite ones and support them.
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Kelly gave the show credibility, by becoming a star after winning. The two follow up winners didn't couldn't become that, yet people still watched those seasons. Carrie is the last HUGE winner (but there have been a few succesful contestants after her). Many seasons later people are still watching the show. If Kelly was important for giving the show credibility, so was Carrie.
But Kelly was only one of the reasons the show became succesful, people love these kinda shows anyway. However, some of the later contestants may not have tried to go on American Idol had it not been for Kelly´s succes (like Carrie). So Kelly was a reason the show went on after the first season, but Carrie gave the show just as much credibility after two not so succesful winners.
But tbh I don't get why there can't be a discussion about Kelly without Carrie getting bashed. There are a few nice ones, but some of those stans don't do Kelly a favor for me.
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Originally posted by jose168
reaching for the stars
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I miss S Club 7.
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Originally posted by Carriefan
Kelly gave the show credibility, by becoming a star after winning. The two follow up winners didn't couldn't become that, yet people still watched those seasons. Carrie is the last HUGE winner (but there have been a few succesful contestants after her). Many seasons later people are still watching the show. If Kelly was important for giving the show credibility, so was Carrie.
But Kelly was only one of the reasons the show became succesful, people love these kinda shows anyway. However, some of the later contestants may not have tried to go on American Idol had it not been for Kelly´s succes (like Carrie). So Kelly was a reason the show went on after the first season, but Carrie gave the show just as much credibility after two not so succesful winners.
But tbh I don't get why there can't be a discussion about Kelly without Carrie getting bashed. There are a few nice ones, but some of those stans don't do Kelly a favor for me.
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lies. Both Ruben and Fantasia got #1s and sold millions directly after they won. Clay had already sold millions before Carrie's season. Carrie shares the credit, just not as much as Kelly gets for starting it.
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Originally posted by Nerevanin
I don't think so. People just love those reality shows doesn't matter which kind of it. I mean there are AI, X-Factor, The Voice, upcoming Duets, Amazing Race, America's Next Top Model, *Country*'s got talent and others. And people love to have favorite ones and support them.
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Those are only around because of Idol though SYTYCD, America's Got Talent & ABDC likely feel Idol's influence as well.
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Originally posted by DejaVu
lies. Both Ruben and Fantasia got #1s and sold millions directly after they won. Clay had already sold millions before Carrie's season. Carrie shares the credit, just not as much as Kelly gets for starting it.
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Then I don't see why Kelly was so important for American Idol? If they sold millions of albums, who's to say any other winner of the first season would've flopped? Granted, I didn't follow that season, so I'm not sure who the other finalists of that season were. I agree that Kelly made some contestants even consider taking part of American Idol, but the show would've stayed for at least some more seasons if any possible other winner had some succes, like Ruben and Fantasia (who aren't really mainstream) who like you said have sold millions as well. Kelly wasn't even that big before Breakaway, which came out in 2004.
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Originally posted by Carriefan
Then I don't see why Kelly was so important for American Idol? If they sold millions of albums, who's to say any other winner of the first season would've flopped? Granted, I didn't follow that season, so I'm not sure who the other finalists of that season were. I agree that Kelly made some contestants even consider taking part of American Idol, but the show would've stayed for at least some more seasons if any possible other winner had some succes, like Ruben and Fantasia (who aren't really mainstream) who like you said have sold millions as well. Kelly wasn't even that big before Breakaway, which came out in 2004.
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Because Kelly started it and remains the biggest reality TV contestant in history. She lends the show her credibility. The other winners besides Carrie aren't doing anything right now and Kelly is still getting #1s,
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