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Discussion: Will this finally be it for Ciara?
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I feel that Ciara should be where Rihanna is right now. A part of Rihanna's success has a lot to do with the fact that she is able to adapt to trends, which Ciara seems to be idle with. I think Ciara could surprise the world if she has the writers, producers and proper backing.
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Ciara's versatile, contrary to how people view Ciara, she's done Pop, Dance-Pop, R&B, Crunk&B, slow jams and have done them well. It's baffling how forgotten she is when she's such an excellent performer in almost any type of genre.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I feel that Ciara should be where Rihanna is right now. A part of Rihanna's success has a lot to do with the fact that she is able to adapt to trends, which Ciara seems to be idle with. I think Ciara could surprise the world if she has the writers, producers and proper backing.
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I just don't see Ciara being able to do Euro-pop, techno, or pop music in general. Everyone know's her main problem is the same tired as backbend and sound, but not everyone is able to step outside of their comfort zone and make it work for them.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ
I just don't see Ciara being able to do Euro-pop, techno, or pop music in general. Everyone know's her main problem is the same tired as backbend and sound, but not everyone is able to step outside of their comfort zone and make it work for them.
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Ciara has tackled that sound before, though. What was that song with Enrique Iglesias - "Takin' Back My Love?"
If Chris, Usher and Rihanna are able to transition to that sound, then I don't see why Ciara cannot. They realize that the R&B sound isn't getting them big crossover hits. They are doing both simultaneously and finding success with both.
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Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ
I just don't see Ciara being able to do Euro-pop, techno, or pop music in general. Everyone know's her main problem is the same tired as backbend and sound, but not everyone is able to step outside of their comfort zone and make it work for them.
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Dummy, she's already done it.
And what does a dance move have to do with music?
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ
I just don't see Ciara being able to do Euro-pop, techno, or pop music in general. Everyone know's her main problem is the same tired as backbend and sound, but not everyone is able to step outside of their comfort zone and make it work for them.
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She doesn't have to jump barriers and change her sound entirely. Besides, she has done most of the things you've mentioned in the past by herself and with other artists in other countries.
I just want to hear what Ciara wants to serve us, not what she thinks her fans want.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Ciara has tackled that sound before, though. What was that song with Enrique Iglesias - "Takin' Back My Love?"
If Chris, Usher and Rihanna are able to transition to that sound, then I don't see why Ciara cannot. They realize that the R&B sound isn't getting them hits. They are doing both simultaneously and finding success with both.
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I hate Usher doing pop. It sort of works for Chris and Rihanna adapts her sound to pop and puts her own signature on it. I never considered her to be an R&B artist anyway.
My thing is, I hate the fact that all of those R&B stars are having to adapt to the pop sound. I miss old school R&B and it sucks that a lot of the R&B stars out that are having to slightly sell themselves out to be a major "factor" in the mainstream. I just wish there was a way that we could bring real R&B music back to the forefront.
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Member Since: 9/17/2011
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Originally posted by aRog
Dummy, she's already done it.
And what does a dance move have to do with music?
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Just because she's done it doesn't mean she's good at...any R&B artist can record a pop song if they chose to but that doesn't mean they have the crossover appeal to make the song/genre work for them...
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Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ
I hate Usher doing pop. It sort of works for Chris and Rihanna adapts her sound to pop and puts her own signature on it. I never considered her to be an R&B artist anyway.
My thing is, I hate the fact that all of those R&B stars are having to adapt to the pop sound. I miss old school R&B and it sucks that a lot of the R&B stars out that are having to slightly sell themselves out to be a major "factor" in the mainstream. I just wish there was a way that we could bring real R&B music back to the forefront.
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I wish there was a way as well, But that's not going to happen for a good while. Ciara doesn't have to completely void her album of R&B either, I just believe she should be versatile and appeal to the masses rather one demographic.
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Originally posted by RihRihGirrrl
Just because she's done it doesn't mean she's good at...any R&B artist can record a pop song if they chose to but that doesn't mean they have the crossover appeal to make the song/genre work for them...
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The few times she got the chance to release songs to Pop radio, they didn't fail.
Ciara is one of few artists who isn't limited to 2 formats.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Ciara has tackled that sound before, though. What was that song with Enrique Iglesias - "Takin' Back My Love?"
If Chris, Usher and Rihanna are able to transition to that sound, then I don't see why Ciara cannot. They realize that the R&B sound isn't getting them big crossover hits. They are doing both simultaneously and finding success with both.
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What do you think about "Work"?
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ
I hate Usher doing pop. It sort of works for Chris and Rihanna adapts her sound to pop and puts her own signature on it. I never considered her to be an R&B artist anyway.
My thing is, I hate the fact that all of those R&B stars are having to adapt to the pop sound. I miss old school R&B and it sucks that a lot of the R&B stars out that are having to slightly sell themselves out to be a major "factor" in the mainstream. I just wish there was a way that we could bring real R&B music back to the forefront.
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They almost have no choice though. None of them really appeal to an older adult R&B crowd like Erykah Badu or Jill Scott, and all of them have been major factors in mainstream. If they want to continue to have mainstream success, then they have to adapt to what's going on now.
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
What do you think about "Work"?
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Her gay vogue music?
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
What do you think about "Work"?
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I actually like that song, and just listened to it not too long ago. I wonder why they didn't release it in the U.S.
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Member Since: 9/17/2011
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Originally posted by aRog
The few times she got the chance to release songs to Pop radio, they didn't fail.
Ciara is one of few artists who isn't limited to 2 formats.
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I don't think she's limited but I don't believe that the public would be here for 'pop star' Ciara....I think she needs to stay true to her R&B roots (not that outdated crunk ****) and ADD some pop elements to make the songs/album more radio friendly.
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Member Since: 3/27/2009
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I actually like that song, and just listened to it not too long ago. I wonder why they didn't release it in the U.S.
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It was even promoted, a bit, with that Verizon commercial.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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I know the bitch has done R&B before, but was she successful at it? Not too many people can have crossover appeal. I love Ciara for her "Promise", "And I", "Like A Boy", and "Ride" and I do think that's what she excels at and what she is comfortable doing, but it's not what the consumer is checking for nowadays. I don't think her completely revamping her image is going to do much. I mean I hope she proves me wrong because I would never wish failure on anyone not named Kim Kardashian, but I do think it's going to take A LOT to put her back in the limelight and getting her back to the full potential that she is capable of. I mean look at J. Lo. She goes from Jenny on the Block to whatever the hell she calls herself now. She has the image, the hype, exposure, and the pop/ mainstream music yet the bitch still flops miserably.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ
I know the bitch has done R&B before, but was she successful at it? Not too many people can have crossover appeal. I love Ciara for her "Promise", "And I", "Like A Boy", and "Ride" and I do think that's what she excels at and what she is comfortable doing, but it's not what the consumer is checking for nowadays. I don't think her completely revamping her image is going to do much. I mean I hope she proves me wrong because I would never wish failure on anyone not named Kim Kardashian, but I do think it's going to take A LOT to put her back in the limelight and getting her back to the full potential that she is capable of. I mean look at J. Lo. She goes from Jenny on the Block to whatever the hell she calls herself now. She has the image, the hype, exposure, and the pop/ mainstream music yet the bitch still flops miserably.
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To be fair, J. Lo is up there in age, just like Janet Jackson and Toni Braxton.
Ciara is in same age range as GaGa and Rihanna, and should be competing against them.
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I actually like that song, and just listened to it not too long ago. I wonder why they didn't release it in the U.S.
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It had everything to be the lead single but they felt "Go Girl" & "Never Ever" were better.
Yuck.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
To be fair, J. Lo is up there in age, just like Janet Jackson and Toni Braxton.
Ciara is in same age range as GaGa and Rihanna, and should be competing against them.
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True, but my point is, the public is either going to use you or not use you. It's cold blooded. I actually thought Basic Instinct and Fantasy Ride were at least decent albums, but no one was checking for them.
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