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Poll: Would you rather live in the US or Europe?
View Poll Results: Where would you rather reside?
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by Georges
Maybe Morocco/Tunisia for a nice summer vacation.
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Umm.
Gay rights aside.
I have free education.
Free medical care.
Culture & Traditions.
It's safer to live here
AMAZING public transport
My country is diverse
We are happier
Men & Women are equal
We actually accept everyone and the citizens don't attack people for being "white" "brown" or "black"
We win
Don't bring up saudi arabia k bye
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Originally posted by PromKing
Umm.
Gay rights aside.
I have free education.
Free medical care.
Culture & Traditions.
It's safer to live here
AMAZING public transport
My country is diverse
We are happier
Men & Women are equal
We actually accept everyone and the citizens don't attack people for being "white" "brown" or "black"
We win
Don't bring up saudi arabia k bye
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Lol I rather stay half broke in Europe than live anywhere in the middle east. But good for ya dahrling.
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Member Since: 5/21/2012
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Originally posted by Jicky
Lol I rather stay half broke in Europe than live anywhere in the middle east. But good for ya dahrling.
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I remember this being my opinion and I wasn't asking you?
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Originally posted by PromKing
I remember this being my opinion and I wasn't asking you?
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I don't care and you went off topic.
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Originally posted by PromKing
Umm.
Gay rights aside.
I have free education.
Free medical care.
Culture & Traditions.
It's safer to live here
AMAZING public transport
My country is diverse
We are happier
Men & Women are equal
We actually accept everyone and the citizens don't attack people for being "white" "brown" or "black"
We win
Don't bring up saudi arabia k bye
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An earthly paradise for its citizens indeed.
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Member Since: 5/21/2012
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The USA.
But I like visiting Europe.
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Well we have a clear winner.
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Originally posted by PromKing
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a quick look at wikipedia...
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Flogging and stoning are legal punishments in the UAE. Many laws continue to discriminate against women. For example, Emirati women must receive permission from a "male guardian" to marry and remarry.[149] The requirement is derived from Sharia law, and has been federal law since 2005.[149] Some domestic workers in the UAE are victims of Sharia judicial punishments such as flogging and stoning.[114] The annual Freedom House report on Freedom in the World has listed the United Arab Emirates as "Not Free" every year since 1999 (the first year for which records are available on their website).[77]
UAE has escaped the Arab Spring; however, more than 100 Emirati activists were jailed and tortured because they sought reforms.[56][150][151] Since 2011, the UAE government has increasingly carried out forced disappearances.[152][153][154][155][156][157] Many foreign nationals and Emirati citizens have been arrested and abducted by the state, the UAE government denies these people are being held (to conceal their whereabouts), placing these people outside the protection of the law.[151][153][158] According to Human Rights Watch, the reports of forced disappearance and torture in the UAE are of grave concern.[154]
The Arab Organisation of Human Rights has obtained testimonies from many defendants, for its report on "Forced Disappearance and Torture in the UAE", who reported that they had been kidnapped, tortured and abused in detention centres.[153][158] The report included 16 different methods of torture including severe beatings, threats with electrocution and denying access to medical care.[153][158]
In 2013, 94 Emirati activists were held in secret detention centres and put on trial for allegedly attempting to overthrow the government.[159] Human rights organizations have spoken out against the secrecy of the trial. An Emirati, whose father is among the defendants, was arrested for tweeting about the trial. In April 2013, he was sentenced to 10 months in jail.[160]
Repressive measures were also used against non-Emiratis in order to justify the UAE government's claim that there is an "international plot" in which UAE citizens and foreigners were working together to destabilize the country.[158] Foreign nationals were also subjected to a campaign of deportations.[158] There are many documented cases of Egyptians and other foreign nationals who had spent years working in the UAE and were then given only a few days to leave the country.[158]
Foreign nationals subjected to forced disappearance include two Libyans[161] and two Qataris.[158][162] Amnesty reported that the Qatari men have been abducted by the UAE government and the UAE government has withheld information about the men's fate from their families.[158][162] Amongst the foreign nationals detained, imprisoned and expelled is Iyad El-Baghdadi, a popular blogger and Twitter personality.[158] He was arrested by UAE authorities, detained, imprisoned and then expelled from the country.[158] Despite his lifetime residence in the UAE, as a Palestinian citizen, El-Baghdadi had no recourse to contest this order.[158] He could not be deported back to the Palestinian territories, therefore he was deported to Malaysia.[158]
In 2007, the UAE government attempted to cover up information on the rape of a French teenage boy by three Emirati locals, one of whose HIV-positive status was hidden by Emirati authorities.[163] Diplomatic pressure led to the arrest and conviction of the Emirati rapists.[164]
In April 2009, a video tape of torture smuggled out of the UAE showed Sheikh Issa bin Zayed Al Nahyan torturing a man (Mohammed Shah Poor) with whips, electric cattle prods, wooden planks with protruding nails and running him over repeatedly with a car.[165] In December 2009, Issa appeared in court and proclaimed his innocence.[166] The trial ended on 10 January 2010, when Issa was cleared of the torture of Mohammed Shah Poor.[167] Human Rights Watch criticised the trial and called on the government to establish an independent body to investigate allegations of abuse by UAE security personnel and other persons of authority.[168] The US State Department has expressed concern over the verdict and said all members of Emirati society "must stand equal before the law" and called for a careful review of the decision to ensure that the demands of justice are fully met in this case.[169]
In recent years, a large number of Shia Muslim expatriates have been deported from the UAE,[170][171][172] Lebanese Shia families in particular have been deported for their alleged sympathy for Hezbollah.[173][174][175][176][177][178] According to some organizations, more than 4,000 Shia expats have been deported from the UAE in recent years.[179][180] Shia Emiratis face significant social discrimination, many have opted to hide their Shia identity to avoid discrimination.
The issue of sexual abuse among female domestic workers is another area of concern, particularly given that domestic servants are not covered by the UAE labour law of 1980 or the draft labour law of 2007.[181] Worker protests have been suppressed and protesters imprisoned without due process.[182] In its 2013 Annual Report, Amnesty International drew attention to the United Arab Emirates' poor record on a number of human rights issues. They highlighted the government's restrictive approach to freedom of speech and assembly, their use of arbitrary arrest and torture, and UAE's use of the death penalty.[183]
In 2012, Dubai police subjected three British citizens to beatings and electric shocks after arresting them on drugs charges.[184] The British Prime Minister, David Cameron, expressed "concern" over the case and raised it with the UAE President, Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, during his 2013 state visit to the UK.[185] The three men were pardoned and released in July 2013.[186]
The treatment of migrant workers in the UAE has been likened to "modern-day slavery".[187] Migrant workers are excluded from the UAE's collective labour rights, hence migrants are vulnerable to forced labour. Migrant workers in the UAE are not allowed to join trade unions.[188] Moreover, migrant workers are banned from going on strike.[188][189] Dozens of workers were deported in 2014 for going on strike.[190] As migrant workers do not have the right to join a trade union or go on strike, they don't have the means to denounce the exploitation they suffer. Those who protest risk prison and deportation.[188] The International Trade Union Confederation has called on the United Nations to investigate evidence that thousands of migrant workers in the UAE are treated as slave labour.[191]
In July 2013, a video was uploaded onto YouTube, depicting a local driver hitting an expatriate worker, following a road related incident. Using part of his head gear, the local driver whips the expatriate and also taunts him, before other passers-by intervene. A short while later, Dubai police announced that the person who filmed the video had been taken into custody. It was also revealed that the local driver was a senior UAE government official.[192] Later in 2013, police arrested a US citizen and some UAE citizens, in connection with a YouTube parody video which allegedly portrayed Dubai and its residents in a bad light. The video was shot in areas of Satwa, Dubai and featured gangs learning how to fight using simple weapons, including shoes, the aghal, etc.[193]
The State Security Apparatus in the UAE has been accused of series of atrocities and human rights abuses including enforced disappearance, arbitrary arrests and torture[194] the latest being the forced disappearance of a Turkish businessman Dr Amer Al Shawa on 2 October 2014.[195]
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Good luck
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Europe by a landslide.
Not somewhere cold either . I can't live without the beach.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by PromKing
Umm.
Gay rights aside.
I have free education.
Free medical care.
Culture & Traditions.
It's safer to live here
AMAZING public transport
My country is diverse
We are happier
Men & Women are equal
We actually accept everyone and the citizens don't attack people for being "white" "brown" or "black"
We win
Don't bring up saudi arabia k bye
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Say whuh? Since when?? I guess we have different definitions for the word "equality"
Everything that you just listed also applies to China, but the discussion in this thread is about the U.S. and [Western] Europe.
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tbh, I'd like to try a few years in Vienna
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USA! I live in Vienna, don't get me wrong, it's a very very beautiful historic city and the health care/public traffic is amazing but people here are so arrogant and rude, they are always complaining, Austrians in generall, I experienced the opposite in America. I think the most reason I want to live in the US is the ocean, I am in love with the Californian coast!
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Id only want to live in a European country for the rain and the people, but theres not much diversity out there
so I'll stay in the US
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I prefer europe but everything is so expensive
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I would not live in Europe.
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Europe is nice for vacations. I'd stay in the US, tyvm.
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