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Celeb News: Nicki addresses "sell-out" comments in new interview
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Originally posted by feuxtography
But even before the fame she was doing pop. Even Red & Blue was a singer-songwriters pop album.
Yes she's different, but not genre's different. Artists can change, look at rihannas first album compared to now. Still not as drastic as nicki's transformation in just 2 albums.
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There is not much of a difference between Pink Friday and Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded. lol There were pop songs on her debut album, too. Examples: "Check It Out," "Save Me," "Fly," "Your Love," "Last Chance" and "Super Bass." It just has gotten worse, but people have been calling Nicki a sell-out since PF. When people call her a sell-out, it's because of the stuff she did before she released Pink Friday.
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Originally posted by feuxtography
But even before the fame she was doing pop. Even Red & Blue was a singer-songwriters pop album.
Yes she's different, but not genre's different. Artists can change, look at rihannas first album compared to now. Still not as drastic as nicki's transformation in just 2 albums.
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She didn't change imo, her music did. It's more electronic now but that's because she has the producers to do it. Gaga is true to herself, even though she does some wacky ass **** to get views.
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Originally posted by kitten****
I'ma put this out there. I don't like Gaga. At all. Well, you could say I'm indifferent to her now but I pay no attention to her. I have my opinions and I stand by them and I WILL NOT constantly come into a Gaga thread giving my negative ass opinion KNOWING damn well nobody will change it. Why the **** would I want to enter a Gaga thread? WHY? Waste of my time.
So why do I see the same ass people in Nicki's thread NEVER giving her props without including a negative? Why do you do it EmaciatedHooker? Why?
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Calm it. This isn't the PF:RR thread, its a thread where she addresses an issue many people have with her.
Pretty sure its fair-game for anyone who wants to discuss this aspect of her.
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Originally posted by feuxtography
But gaga has always been pop? What was pop about Beam Me Up Scotty?
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If she could have afforded a producer like Dr. Luke back in the day, I wouldn't doubt that she would've done it She sang a lot on her mixtapes, yet people always complained about how much she chose to "all of a sudden" sing all over her own bridges and hooks on PF. Regarldess, lets put your fave into perspective (assuming you avi is your fave). A lot of people say she's a sell out too for going the radio-friendly pop route. Is she in fact a sell-out? Or do you have reason to rebuttal that?
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Originally posted by UclaBoi
But the main difference is that gaga seems to be moving towards a more genuine artistry (or at least trying to) while nicki seems to be doing just the opposite. She seems to be moving more towards Katy perry status
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goooorrrrlllllll. Even Katy has hold true to her pop/rock artistry. Teenage Dream fits nicely with One of the Boys.
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Originally posted by brIt-()nstar
I don't think only platinum albums are considered "hot" during the time of diamond certifications, sis. She wasn't worldwide hot, boo.
Nicki is going to outlast Lil Kim. I don't think she's going to be a rapper all the way through though. She's a different breed from other female rappers. She's pop. She's hip. She's relevant. She's smart. She knows the market and reinvention is the key to success.
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Female rappers don't generally last long, and Nicki herself said that she doesn't plan on releasing more than five albums. So good luck with her outlasting Kim.
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Originally posted by Lil Misty
She didn't change imo, her music did. It's more electronic now but that's because she has the producers to do it. Gaga is true to herself, even though she does some wacky ass **** to get views.
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True, but I still wouldnt say its all that different. I mean, she still had that piano-pop sound on The Fame (brown eyes, Again Again).
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she doesn't care about her fans, she's just goin with what ever makes her money and keeps her relevant...
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She adressed it in a pretty mature way, I can see her points. Good for her.
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Originally posted by Reed
If she could have afforded a producer like Dr. Luke back in the day, I wouldn't doubt that she would've done it She sang a lot on her mixtapes, yet people always complained about how much she chose to "all of a sudden" sing all over her own bridges and hooks on PF. Regarldess, lets put your fave into perspective (assuming you avi is your fave). A lot of people say she's a sell out too for going the radio-friendly pop route. Is she in fact a sell-out? Or do you have reason to rebuttal that?
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Im confused. My faves have retained the same sound for years...
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Originally posted by kitten****
I'ma put this out there. I don't like Gaga. At all. Well, you could say I'm indifferent to her now but I pay no attention to her. I have my opinions and I stand by them and I WILL NOT constantly come into a Gaga thread giving my negative ass opinion KNOWING damn well nobody will change it. Why the **** would I want to enter a Gaga thread? WHY? Waste of my time.
So why do I see the same ass people in Nicki's thread NEVER giving her props without including a negative? Why do you do it EmaciatedHooker? Why?
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I always ask this. I don't dislike any artist, I'm just indifferent to a lot of them. I don't understand how someone's passionate dislike for an artist can even begin to be rationalized. Even if I did dislike an artists, I couldn't see myself giving them any of my spare attention on a constant basis.
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Originally posted by Flanders
She adressed it in a pretty mature way, I can see her points. Good for her.
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mature? with all the cursing she was doin?
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Originally posted by feuxtography
True, but I still wouldnt say its all that different. I mean, she still had that piano-pop sound on The Fame (brown eyes, Again Again).
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Are you serious? The fame is completely opposite of born this way
Gaga was so fake during the fame. She did what she had to do to gain success.
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Originally posted by UclaBoi
Are you serious? The fame is completely opposite of born this way
Gaga was so fake during the fame. She did what she had to do to gain success.
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Guy's I hope you know producers have to do with music. She didn't produce till BTW right? She only song wrote?
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Female rappers don't generally last long, and Nicki herself said that she doesn't plan on releasing more than five albums. So good luck with her outlasting Kim.
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That isn't even Nicki's aim at this point though. Not to go off base here, and putting longevity aside, Nicki has already accomplished more than Kim ever has in the span of 2 years as an artist.
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Queen Latifah is such a bad example to bring up.
Queen Latifah didn't transform herself into a blonde midrift-baring black Britney Spears and make songs with Max Martin in the late '90s because that's what was hot back then.
Queen Latifah doing movies, musicals (also movies), voice overs (also movies) is not the same thing. The fact that she uses that as her main argument
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Originally posted by feuxtography
True, but I still wouldnt say its all that different. I mean, she still had that piano-pop sound on The Fame (brown eyes, Again Again).
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And Nicki still raps on her albums.
Both still did something more mainstream to make a name for themselves. It doesn't matter what you think is artistic.
I don't like Nicki's approach at all, but I can't be biased.
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Originally posted by UclaBoi
Are you serious? The fame is completely opposite of born this way
Gaga was so fake during the fame. She did what she had to do to gain success.
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Uhmmmm, not really. BTW makes perfect sense with The Fame Monster being the blend of both.
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Originally posted by feuxtography
Im confused. My faves have retained the same sound for years...
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Idk why I thought I quoted the Katy fan. I don't know who those people are in your avi so I cant really speak on that.
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Originally posted by feuxtography
Calm it. This isn't the PF:RR thread, its a thread where she addresses an issue many people have with her.
Pretty sure its fair-game for anyone who wants to discuss this aspect of her.
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No. Not when you obvious have an non-budging grudge against an artist. It's then a waste of time. I never openly tell a bunch of people about my opinion on Gaga but I had to to give an example. I have/had issues with her and I don't have the itch to go in a thread and discuss it being that I know I'm going to get irritated being around all those opposing opinions. Even if there were many agreeing with me, it's such a feeling of slight disappointment that I went out of my way to do all that for what? So I can feel like I personally got 1-Up on her?
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