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Discussion: Are You Pro Life or Pro Choice?
Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Beyond Say
Only in American can someone call themselves Pro Guns and Pro Death Penalty then turn around and call themselves Pro life.
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
Posts: 35,091
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Originally posted by Mélina
I am in no way, shape or form a "hardcore christian". I just take the idea that life begins at conception. The ****.
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I mean Da ****? These girls are ready to form an angry mob outside my house.
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Member Since: 5/4/2011
Posts: 20,807
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Originally posted by Bea.
I am Pro-Choice...if you are not an idiot.
There are certain circumstances in which it is dangerous for the child or the mother for a baby to be born. For example a pregnancy that is the result of a rape, a woman who is mentally ill that is pregnant, a child who has an incurable genetic disease or deformity, a child that is the result of incest etc etc. But in all honesty there is no person here that can put themselves in the thoughts of a woman in a difficult situation who is pregnant. Every situation is different.
I personally would not have an abortion if it was an accident with my boyfriend, in my opinion if you feel that you are old and responsible enough to be having sex then you should be prepared to deal with the possibility that it will create a child. I know not everyone thinks like that though.
My issue is with girls getting an abortion a year because they can't keep their legs closed and are too trashy to use a condom or go on BC.
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I myself am Pro-Life, but I like this post. There are some instances where Choice has to come into play, such as rape and mental instability, but when it comes to aborting an unborn child just because you don't want to have a child yet, you should have thought of that before you had sex.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 5/28/2011
Posts: 39,615
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Originally posted by Beyond Say
Only in Ameri**** can someone call themselves Pro Guns and Pro Death Penalty then turn around and call themselves Pro life.
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Ah. Yes, indeed. Most of us Americans are hypocrites.
I'm proud yet not proud at all to be living in this country.
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Member Since: 2/11/2008
Posts: 10,964
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Originally posted by Ryan
Again I'll ask: Do the pro-lifers against abortion for ANY reason support the death penalty?
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Not me.
As I've said several times, we are no one to decide who lives and who doesn't.
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Member Since: 12/19/2010
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Life begins at birth. To live is to have a consciousness, to breathe, and have all working organs.
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
Posts: 19,686
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Originally posted by Mélina
I am in no way, shape or form a "hardcore christian". I just take the idea that life begins at conception. The ****.
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I said most dear, not all. I'm talking the kind of people who blow up abortion clinics and assault the patients and doctors.
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by D/X
Not me.
As I've said several times, we are no one to decide who lives and who doesn't.
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Member Since: 8/2/2010
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Originally posted by Bea.
But most of the pro-life people are hardcore Christians and traditional Christianity more or less states that Animals do not have souls and therefore aren't as valuable. So obviously we can **** around with them as much as we want, torture them a bit and all that but still be a good godly person.
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Yes, true. From an evolutionary perspective, killing other animals isn't exactly justified.
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Is every life valuable or do you like to pick and choose? Perhaps that is mans need to play god in a way... Does that mean Christians shouldn't join the army or is it ok if the opposing side is a different religion, it's totally fine to kill people as long as the president says so...right?
If you believe the army is justified in killing humans, then how can you be pro-life?
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Christians pick and choose what life is valuable. Without a doubt. They care soooo much about a fetuses life and they want the mother to keep it instead of aborting it no matter what the circumstance, yet if that fetus is born into poverty, the majority of Christians (at least in America) don't want to give it welfare. Or if the fetus grows up to be gay, they don't want to give it rights. Or if the fetus commits murder, they want to give it the death penalty. It's stupid. Agreed with the army thing, too.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Pro Life im not here for abortion..If you do not want the baby give it up for adoption..
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by JungleDisturbia
I myself am Pro-Life, but I like this post. There are some instances where Choice has to come into play, such as rape and mental instability, but when it comes to aborting an unborn child just because you don't want to have a child yet, you should have thought of that before you had sex.
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But isn't forcing such irresponsible parents to raise a child even worse in a way?
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Pro-Choice. Why have a child you know you don't want? Ever heard of post-partum depression? Yes, sometimes mothers do end of resenting their children. Often times the women who suffer from post-partum depression are harmful to the child. Supposedly Casey Anthony was one of them. Supposedly the woman who drowned her twins was one of them. I'd rather have an abortion and take the child's life before they know what it really is as opposed to bringing them into this world because it's the moral thing to do, just to give them hell on earth when they really do know what life is.
Just because the mom is a ***** or promiscuous, why does the child have to suffer. I don't feel like every woman is fit to be a mother. You have to earn that title. Motherly instinct doesn't always instantly kick in. Being forced to bear a child as the consequence of your actions isn't so black and white.
Of course there's always rape. There's no need to explain.
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Member Since: 5/28/2011
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Originally posted by Jewfro
Christians pick and choose what life is valuable. Without a doubt. They care soooo much about a fetuses life and they want the mother to keep it instead of aborting it no matter what the circumstance, yet if that fetus is born into poverty, the majority of Christians (at least in America) don't want to give it welfare. Or if the fetus grows up to be gay, they don't want to give it rights. Or if the fetus commits murder, they want to give it the death penalty. It's stupid. Agreed with the army thing, too.
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Many pro-life Christians are only there until it's born. Once it's born, they couldn't give a **** about it, even if it's tortured or some ****.
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
But isn't forcing such irresponsible parents to raise a child even worse in a way?
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I believe that is where the adoption argument comes in.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by JungleDisturbia
I myself am Pro-Life, but I like this post. There are some instances where Choice has to come into play, such as rape and mental instability, but when it comes to aborting an unborn child just because you don't want to have a child yet, you should have thought of that before you had sex.
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I guess I should have said this in my first posts because I agree with this 100%.
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Member Since: 5/28/2011
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I don't know what else to say about this. Nor should anyone else. We've all given our sides, and we're sort of drifting off to some huge "Let's Hate Christians and Talk About How Clueless Men Are" thread.
Let's not just repeat ourselves. This thread is done with. We've all said what we've wanted about the topic.
/ENDTHREAD
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by Bea.
I believe that is where the adoption argument comes in.
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But you can't force them to give it up for adoption.
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Member Since: 5/4/2011
Posts: 20,807
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Originally posted by Nii.
Life begins at birth. To live is to have a consciousness, to breathe, and have all working organs.
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Well one would expect a baby to do all of these things before coming out of the vagina. Well, I'm not sure about consciousness, but the baby breathes through the umbilical cord and has working organs.
I believe life begins as soon as the sperm fertilises the egg. Mitosis and Meiosis come into play and is the signature of life. How could all the cells replicate and form a human if no life was involved?
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
Many pro-life Christians are only there until it's born. Once it's born, they couldn't give a **** about it, even if it's tortured or some ****.
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What are you talking about... you don't have to be Christian for that to apply to you. Stop generalizing..
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
Posts: 19,686
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Originally posted by Mélina
I guess I should have said this in my first posts because I agree with this 100%.
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See, I only got on a crazy rant when a bunch of gay men, nothing wrong with that but you are never going to knock a girl up, starting saying that women can't do this or they are bad for doing that when 99% of them know **** ALL about any of it.
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