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Discussion: Is the BTW era losing momentum?
Member Since: 1/13/2010
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Originally posted by Wonda
Didn't people think that would happen with You & I, and gurl Marry the Night is not the smash single all her fans think it's going to be. Gaga has no certified smashes left on BTW.
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But 'You & I' has outpeaked 'Cheers' and has seen nothing but positive reviews. It is a smash success hence the masses. Most people are loving this adult contemporary Gaga. It has almost sold a million copies as well.
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Member Since: 3/18/2011
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Originally posted by Wonda
Didn't people think that would happen with You & I, and gurl Marry the Night is not the smash single all her fans think it's going to be. Gaga has no certified smashes left on BTW.
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You know this how?
And this is going to sound catty, but (really, I'm not trying to be rude or offensive) Man Down and California King Bed wasn't the "smashes" the Navy said they were going to be either.
But in attempts to stay on topic and keep other artists out of it, Marry The Night is probably the closest thing to a "certified" smash as BTW has (the only support I can give you is that if you look at the song it has a lot of Gaga's signature sounds/hooks/lyrics and it was the 2nd best performing song on album release week)
Other lessor "smashes" include:
Hair, Scheisse, and HML.
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Member Since: 5/27/2010
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Originally posted by Wonda
Didn't people think that would happen with You & I, and gurl Marry the Night is not the smash single all her fans think it's going to be. Gaga has no certified smashes left on BTW.
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Most people expected Y&I to flop.
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Originally posted by izzy
I don't get why this song flopped ? it's so amazing I don't get it
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It was ridiculously similar to Bad Romance and people were probably put off by the title.
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
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Originally posted by izzy
the katy perry fans are trying as usual
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You know what they say: "Like fave, like stan".
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Member Since: 8/24/2010
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Yes. But she still has single worthy materiel to kind of finish the era with a loud bang.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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"Judas" got old fast. I played that song a bunch when it leaked, and after a while, it just sounded loud and obnoxious to me. I played several songs a lot when they leak and got tired of them, but "Judas" was one of those songs that got played out extremely quickly. Most of BTW is off-putting to me. It's not a bad album, but it's not one of those albums that have many standouts or songs that will age well.
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I think Interscope will have to take all creative control back from Lady Gaga next era if they want her to last. She proved she's not as savvy as she appeared.
Rihanna fans, don't get too boastful. She released the very commercial, if a bit dark Rated R on the heels of huge promo about the Chris Brown beating and struggled like crazy to hit 3M. It wasn't until her label forced her to rush-record a highly commercial new Stargate-filled (notice what they did for Katy?) dance album and made her change her whole image that she recovered.
For Gaga to recover Interscope will need to treat her like Def Jam treats Rihanna (as a product, not an artist). I've actually been saying this for a long time, so it's not a response to her fans trolling this thread.
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Member Since: 9/14/2010
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Born This Way
Released May 23rd (4 months ago) - 1,755,301 copies sold
Born This Way (1st single)
Released February 11th, with 2 months promo - 3,180,865 copies sold
Judas (2nd single)
Released April 15th, with 1 month's promo - 800,000 copies sold.
The Edge of Glory (3rd single)
Released May 9th, with 1 month's promo - 1,890,518 copies sold.
Yoü And I (4th single)
Released August 23rd, with 1 month's promo (ongoing) - 673,000 copies sold.
Except for Judas, this seems very consistent
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Member Since: 9/10/2011
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I can't at this people saying Born This Way isn't a big success. Just the fact that she keeps selling albums like crazy worldwide with two singles that are not what you will expect from her it's great.
Just wait until the heavy weight (Marry the night, Scheisse, Bloody Mary or Heavy Metal Lover) comes in, she will slay left and right. And let's not forget this little world wide tour that will sellout in seconds.
Gaga is not here for the US only, she's all about world domination.
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Originally posted by Portus
Just the fact that she keeps selling albums like crazy worldwide with two singles
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She 'keeps' selling albums after 4 singles, not 2.
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Member Since: 8/24/2010
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Saying Born This Way is losing momentum is not saying it hasn't been successful.
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Member Since: 8/14/2007
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Originally posted by omgitsralph
SOUTH AMERICA, INDIA, AND SOME PARTS OF ASIA
This era, nor Lady Gaga is fading. There is no chance for that.
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India and some parts of Asia, is kind of an oxymoron, isn'tt it?
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Member Since: 5/28/2010
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Originally posted by Nicole
I think Interscope will have to take all creative control back from Lady Gaga next era if they want her to last. She proved she's not as savvy as she appeared.
Rihanna fans, don't get too boastful. She released the very commercial, if a bit dark Rated R on the heels of huge promo about the Chris Brown beating and struggled like crazy to hit 3M. It wasn't until her label forced her to rush-record a highly commercial new Stargate-filled (notice what they did for Katy?) dance album and made her change her whole image that she recovered.
For Gaga to recover Interscope will need to treat her like Def Jam treats Rihanna (as a product, not an artist). I've actually been saying this for a long time, so it's not a response to her fans trolling this thread.
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Member Since: 1/13/2010
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I do want Interscope to take back control again. That is a smart idea Nicole.
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Member Since: 3/18/2011
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Originally posted by Alexz
India and some parts of Asia, is kind of an oxymoron, isn'tt it?
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Well, yes. I think that his point was that India was more worthy of a mention than other asian countries.
Regardless, it is kind of contradictory.
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Yoü And I (certified flop to many) becomes a worldwide single in 1 hour and 45 minutes.
I wonder what will happen
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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Originally posted by Nicole
I think Interscope will have to take all creative control back from Lady Gaga next era if they want her to last. She proved she's not as savvy as she appeared.
Rihanna fans, don't get too boastful. She released the very commercial, if a bit dark Rated R on the heels of huge promo about the Chris Brown beating and struggled like crazy to hit 3M. It wasn't until her label forced her to rush-record a highly commercial new Stargate-filled (notice what they did for Katy?) dance album and made her change her whole image that she recovered.
For Gaga to recover Interscope will need to treat her like Def Jam treats Rihanna (as a product, not an artist). I've actually been saying this for a long time, so it's not a response to her fans trolling this thread.
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Loud isn't a dance album. The only two dancepop songs on the entire album were released as singles. The rest are R&B/pop/whichever of the two you consider them.
However, Loud was very calculated, there's no disputing that. It wouldn't work for GaGa though. To go from this era to a calculate one would be too blatant & she'd become less successful. It would backfire. Once they gave her creative control, they should know they can't go back.
I don't think Rihanna was against Loud though - no doubt she was truly happier while recording it. I'm sure it's an idea her label brought up & she agreed.
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
Loud isn't a dance album. The only two dancepop songs on the entire album were released as singles. The rest are R&B/pop/whichever of the two you consider them.
However, Loud was very calculated, there's no disputing that. It wouldn't work for GaGa though. To go from this era to a calculate one would be too blatant & she'd become less successful. It would backfire. Once they gave her creative control, they should know they can't go back.
I don't think Rihanna was against Loud though - no doubt she was truly happier while recording it. I'm sure it's an idea her label brought up & she agreed.
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Gaga's entire schtick is calculated.
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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Originally posted by Nicole
Gaga's entire schtick is calculated.
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By her herself... or the label?
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