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Celeb News: Azealia Banks : "Lady Gaga set me up"
Member Since: 3/16/2012
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
Cultural appropriation is mostly a ******** term that social justice activists on tumblr use to feel smart without having to do any actual thinking.
Literally everything is "culturally appropriated." We speak a language that uses words from all over the globe. Our whole society was founded on mashing different cultures together and people being free to participate in cultures they weren't born into.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by heartbeats
because Miley steals black culture and uses it for her benefit. please do us a favor and educate yourself about white privilege.
"everybody wants to be a ***** but nobody really wants to be a *****"
and here's an excerpt from some blog:
"Her pretty much constant appropriation of twerking (before you make some ignorant comment, yes twerking is an actual art form/form of dance, and it has deep historical and cultural roots an white people doing it is absolutely cultural appropriation (more info on twerking’s roots in African dance here)"
http://www.thisisafrica.me/visual-ar...hite-privilege
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You sound really stupid. Can you tell us how you can steal black culture? Black culture (whatever that is) isn't some tangible thing that can be taken away from someone.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by HERMES
Miley Cyrus is the same girl who never listened to a Jay-Z song now she's making Bangerz in the studio. She's wearing using an identity derived from a part of Black America to convey her freedom, her growth.
And you and Jameson will paint that however you want, but there is a certain privilege, a duality of perception in America with Miley twerking and a black girl twerking. It satirizes something minorities are defiled for doing.
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Oh ok. I get it even more now. In order for her to credibly make Bangerz in the studio she has to have listened to a Jay Z song. Right.
Because Miley Cyrus isn't being publicly ridiculed right now for her actions, regardless of her race....okay.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by heartbeats
because Miley steals black culture and uses it for her benefit. please do us a favor and educate yourself about white privilege.
"everybody wants to be a ***** but nobody really wants to be a *****"
and here's an excerpt from some blog:
"Her pretty much constant appropriation of twerking (before you make some ignorant comment, yes twerking is an actual art form/form of dance, and it has deep historical and cultural roots an white people doing it is absolutely cultural appropriation (more info on twerking’s roots in African dance here)"
http://www.thisisafrica.me/visual-ar...hite-privilege
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She "stole" black culture?
As in, black people will never get it back?
Are you saying she FORCED mike will made it, Pharrell, will.I.am, snoop lion, juicy j, wiz khalifa, Nelly, future, French Montana, KANYE west, etc. To work with her?
Is Rihanna singing songs in European dance style like Ibiza House cultural appropriation? She grew up in Barbados, NOT European dance culture.
And none of what you said even answered my question: How does cultural appropriation hurt anyone?
I asked you that question, and you answered with "SEE, ITS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION." Now explain to me why cultural appropriation is bad and shouldn't be done.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
Is it really shocking to you that someone could go from not being a hip hop fan to being a hip hop fan over the course of a few years? Especially someone who's only 20?
How is Miley "satirizing" twerking? What derivative work intended to mock twerking did she create?
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That's not the point it's her intermediate knowledge of a culture she payed little attention to until she turned into a big girl. She has a lot to learn about Hip Hop culture, which is apart of Black culture. Deciding to like it is entirely different from actually knowing what it is.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by Kenneck
You sound really stupid. Can you tell us how you can steal black culture? Black culture (whatever that is) isn't some tangible thing that can be taken away from someone.
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You sound really stupid, point is she's stealing things (twerking and pretty much her whole image during this era) from black culture to benefit her image and career.
It is the use of actual bodies that most unnerves. They are relegated to their own scene away from the actions and partying of Cyrus’ non-black friends. Cyrus wears white while they wear black. She stands in the middle, attempting to twerk and failing.
“In a white-centric world, putting white women quite literally in the center of the frame while women of color are off to the side is a powerful, disrespectful visual message,” writes Dodai Stewart in a necessary and surprisingly frank discussion of Cyrus on Jezebel. Black women are not tools for one’s public rebellion. They are not signifiers of one’s transition into adulthood. They are not manifestations of your goals, desires, and pursuit of pop riches. They are actual human beings. Really!
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
She "stole" black culture?
As in, black people will never get it back?
Are you saying she FORCED mike will made it, Pharrell, will.I.am, snoop lion, juicy j, wiz khalifa, Nelly, future, French Montana, KANYE west, etc. To work with her?
Is Rihanna singing songs in European dance style like Ibiza House cultural appropriation? She grew up in Barbados, NOT European dance culture.
And none of what you said even answered my question: How does cultural appropriation hurt anyone?
I asked you that question, and you answered with "SEE, ITS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION." Now explain to me why cultural appropriation is bad and shouldn't be done.
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Member Since: 10/14/2011
Posts: 3,762
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
Is it really shocking to you that someone could go from not being a hip hop fan to being a hip hop fan over the course of a few years? Especially someone who's only 20?
How is Miley "satirizing" twerking? What derivative work intended to mock twerking did she create?
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Easily, you sitting her ferociously defending Miley and praising her attempts at twerking, but if some lessor known black girl was doing it, you'd probably be the first one in here calling her ghetto trash.
When was the last time a dark skinned black woman had a #1 on the Hot 100. (And its not because there aren't any talented ones out there neither) The only time we see black female bodies in music videos are as props these days. Ask Miley Cyrus.
Face it, the music industry is damn near completely white washed, so forgive people if they get a little upset that the few representations of black culture in the media are by some rich Disney country girl who thinks black music is super trendy right now.
I'm actually dumbfounded how people like you can be so immensely dense and so consumed by your own privilege that you can't even see how Miley's recent antics might be offensive to people. Shes free to do whatever she wants, but the public is also free to criticize her and drag her all we want because her critics have a valid point, whether you agree or not.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by heartbeats
You sound really stupid, point is she's stealing things (twerking and pretty much her whole image during this era) from black culture to benefit her image and career.
It is the use of actual bodies that most unnerves. They are relegated to their own scene away from the actions and partying of Cyrus’ non-black friends. Cyrus wears white while they wear black. She stands in the middle, attempting to twerk and failing.
“In a white-centric world, putting white women quite literally in the center of the frame while women of color are off to the side is a powerful, disrespectful visual message,” writes Dodai Stewart in a necessary and surprisingly frank discussion of Cyrus on Jezebel. Black women are not tools for one’s public rebellion. They are not signifiers of one’s transition into adulthood. They are not manifestations of your goals, desires, and pursuit of pop riches. They are actual human beings. Really!
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How did she "steal" them? Are black people no longer allowed to twerk?
Is everyone who ever did the Soulja Boi dance "stealing" black culture? What about the Harlem shake, the cha cha slide?
Stop using extended quotes from other people and try thinking for yourself.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Hah. She is FUMING that she failed to get that exposure that might have given her some sort of career. Bye girl...
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 1,994
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Originally posted by Navyboy20
Easily, you sitting her ferociously defending Miley and praising her attempts at twerking, but if some lessor known black girl was doing it, you'd probably be the first one in here calling her ghetto trash.
When was the last time a dark skinned black woman had a #1 on the Hot 100. (And its not because there aren't any talented ones out there neither)
Face it, the music industry is damn near completely white washed, so forgive people if they get a little upset that the few representations of black culture in the media are by some rich Disney country girl who thinks black music is super trendy right now.
I'm actually dumbfounded how people like you can be so immensely dense and so consumed by your own privilege that you can't even see how Miley's recent antics might be offensive to people. Shes free to do whatever she wants, but the public is also free to criticize her and drag her all we want because her critics have a valid point, whether you agree or not.
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Yeah, you tell 'em! How dare Miley Cyrus do what she wants.
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Member Since: 9/25/2011
Posts: 12,630
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Originally posted by Lipton
And mess @ Remixed reporting this. If it had been about Madonna, you would have teleported to the nearest computer to post it.
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Member Since: 5/10/2012
Posts: 10,996
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Originally posted by HERMES
All YOU can do is speculate. You don't know what Azealia was going to do with the Ratchet track. I mean you can imagine it in that light but you genuinely don't know.
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Of course I can only speculate, and with her abrasive tweets, Banks does nothing to help further her career. Her constantly instigating discord among other artists, let alone Gaga, is extremely unprofessional on Azealia's part and makes her look like a completely bitter child, someone who has zero grasp or care about media perception, and thus, one who clearly isn't cut out to be a public figure.
Thus I'm inclined to believe that she is angry because she's not getting a fat paycheck, not because she was subjected to institutional racism.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 296
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Originally posted by heartbeats
You sound really stupid, point is she's stealing things (twerking and pretty much her whole image during this era) from black culture to benefit her image and career.
It is the use of actual bodies that most unnerves. They are relegated to their own scene away from the actions and partying of Cyrus’ non-black friends. Cyrus wears white while they wear black. She stands in the middle, attempting to twerk and failing.
“In a white-centric world, putting white women quite literally in the center of the frame while women of color are off to the side is a powerful, disrespectful visual message,” writes Dodai Stewart in a necessary and surprisingly frank discussion of Cyrus on Jezebel. Black women are not tools for one’s public rebellion. They are not signifiers of one’s transition into adulthood. They are not manifestations of your goals, desires, and pursuit of pop riches. They are actual human beings. Really!
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Who is she stealing from? Who owns the rights to twerk? And LOL @ that last quote. Of course, Miley is gonna be in the center of the frame. It's her music video.
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Member Since: 1/8/2012
Posts: 26,732
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Originally posted by Navyboy20
You guys are FOOLS if you guys think Azealia is going anywhere. Her Twitter account is larger than life and iconic ALREADY. Wait until she starts dropping fire tracks again. Yall know its coming too. Thats why everyone still checks for her
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by Navyboy20
Easily, you sitting her ferociously defending Miley and praising her attempts at twerking, but if some lessor known black girl was doing it, you'd probably be the first one in here calling her ghetto trash. .
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Sis, most of my faves are lessor known black girls.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Azealia isn't even in a place to talk... The girl has thrown around derogatory terms left and right.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 1,507
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Originally posted by ARTPOPULAR
Oh ok. I get it even more now. In order for her to credibly make Bangerz in the studio she has to have listened to a Jay Z song. Right.
Because Miley Cyrus isn't being publicly ridiculed right now for her actions, regardless of her race....okay.
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Your sarcasm is moot.
Miley Cyrus is being pampered right now for her newfound attitude. As far as media Viacom/CBS (a mass media conglomerate) clearly supports her to put her on television. And musicians are taking her money eagerly.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
Posts: 10,635
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Originally posted by Lipton
And mess @ Remixed reporting this. If it had been about Madonna, you would have teleported to the nearest computer to post it.
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bye
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Member Since: 1/8/2012
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I just got here... how did this turn into a discussion about Miley?
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