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Discussion: Katy v Gaga: More Respect from Public?
Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Buddy
That's because no one says anything about Katy Perry at all. They just bop to her bops because Dr. Luke is amazing at making good pop songs.
Gaga's music is great in my opinion, but it's not as fitting as Katy's for the general public.
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Stop not giving Katy credit. Why don't Dr Luke's other songs sell as well as hers? She's amazing at writing a great, catchy pop song and it shows. She's worked on great songs without Luke (WUIV, which she produced herself and Firework are good examples).
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Originally posted by pika
Katy's tickets are selling better in the US + she's going to pull huge numbers in Australia. Katy's tour will outgross Gaga's and when it will, hopefully i won't see you running to Youtube comments as your last clutch on who's more respected.
but seeing as living in the past is your thing, i'm certain you'll find some new excuse using something Gaga achieved years ago.
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KOOOONS!
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by DanceForYou
Changing your point after your idiocy got owned, as per usual. You tried to say that Gaga is irrelevant and unknown to the general public now, which is obviously untrue if she's still selling millions. Let's not forget Unconditionally only scanned platinum with huge radio play + a high budget video + tons of promo. Stop acting like Katy is incapable of underperforming. Shows that people only want generic radio candy from her. If anything it's Katy that isn't on Gaga's level because she'll most likely never have an album that will sell over 6 million with THE HUGE radio support + promo she gets. Super sad. a HUGE smash like roar and she hasn't passed 3 milli yet?
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Changing my point? My point still stands that Gaga is a freaking nobody now. Keep believing the public still cares about her when the most she can get is a 2x platinum LEAD and HYPED single and can't even manage a platinum album despite already going through the holiday sales spike.
Katy underperformed, but her next song was bigger than any song from Gaga since TFM G.U.Y. might not even scan gold.
How is Gaga respected by the public, yet simultaneously hated by the public? And if you think the public doesn't hate Gaga now then, then you really are delusional and this is a waste of time
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by pika
Katy's tickets are selling better in the US + she's going to pull huge numbers in Australia. Katy's tour will outgross Gaga's and when it will,.
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I SCREAMED! Kii
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Thor
Strange.
BTWB 98 dates.
CDT 124 dates.
Thanks for pointing out that not only Gaga outsold her with a lot less dates but more attendance.
And why did Katy give out tickets for cheap prices if the GP loves her? Wouldn't they come see her even if the prices were high because they loved her?
Why did they opt for Gaga instead? Oop!
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Because Gaga was huge when she first started and Katy was just building a name for herself. Making her tickets cheap was a smart business move and opened her up to more audiences. Her tickets are just as expensive as Gaga's this time around and she's charging more in Australia (like $150 a ticket) and has upped the capacity of the venues she's touring in, while Gaga has had to drop her ticket prices and lower the capacity of the venues she's touring in.
I'm not going to argue that Katy used to be bigger than Gaga because she didn't. Katy is bigger now though and is proving that she has greater staying power, which would reflect how she's viewed by the public.
I still don't think any female pop stars are truly respected, though.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Mezter
But y'all weren't saying that when Gaga was destroying everyone in the game, including Katy
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Why are you quoting me? I wasn't even there, and I wouldn't have. I'm not on of those stans that likes an artist for sales. See this is the problem with stans, they like to generalize a whole fanbase based on other's actions. But okay I was saying otherwise according to you.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Thor
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Katy's doing WAY more dates in the US than Gaga and they're all selling really well at the space ticket price as hers. And her Australia tickets are all sold out besides package deals and she was selling them @ $150 and doing 23 dates in total.
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Member Since: 12/29/2011
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kinda 50/50.
people respect Gaga because she has talent to back up her crazy antics, but when you walk around looking a mess, you're bound to loose a bit.
people don't respect Katy for the fact she doesn't have much talent to support her success, but i think they respect her for her innocent, standard pop hits.
so yeah
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by DanceForYou
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This. Lol @ people's belief that sales= respect. But this is ATRL, not a surprise. Gaga's recognized by the GP as a weird artist who does weird songs, weird videos, Weird performances etc. etc., but anyone with a normal non-biased thinking wouldn't deny her being multi-talented. Whereas Katy, she's acknowledged by the GP as what? A hit maker with big boobs.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by johnsuxx
Katy's doing WAY more dates in the US than Gaga and they're all selling really well at the space ticket price as hers. And her Australia tickets are all sold out besides package deals and she was selling them @ $150 and doing 23 dates in total.
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Their upcoming tours can only be discussed once their final gross/attendance/shows come out.
Also Gaga is still adding dates to her tours. She is adding a bunch of European dates so their tours are technically under progress, we'll discuss those when the final gross comes out.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by Ethereaaal
This. Lol @ people's belief that sales= respect. But this is ATRL, not a surprise. Gaga's recognized by the GP as a weird artist who does weird songs, weird videos, Weird performances etc. etc., but anyone with a normal non-biased thinking wouldn't deny her being multi-talented. Whereas Katy, she's acknowledged by the GP as what? A hit maker with big boobs.
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OMGGG! Ruthless!
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Originally posted by HighwayHooker
kinda 50/50.
people respect Gaga because she has talent to back up her crazy antics, but when you walk around looking a mess, you're bound to loose a bit.
people don't respect Katy for the fact she doesn't have much talent to support her success, but i think they respect her for her innocent, standard pop hits.
so yeah
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I agree.
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If Gaga is so superior, why devote so much energy to discrediting the inferior, oh so worthless Katy Perry?
Do you see the Queen of England constantly shove it down the publics throats that she is better than the average pauper?
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Originally posted by Thor
OMGGG! Ruthless!
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Just the truth though. That's not even ruthless enough, there's also a general comment by the public about something that involves her talent.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by Emcee
If Gaga is so superior, why devote so much energy to discrediting the inferior, oh so worthless Katy Perry?
Do you see the Queen of England constantly shove it down the publics throats that she is better than the average pauper?
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No one is discrediting Katy. We are just telling it like it is. I mean, it's just the truth.
And no one is devoting any energy to shove down anyone down the public's throat. This thread calls for a discussion, and this is exactly what it is.
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Originally posted by Ethereaaal
This. Lol @ people's belief that sales= respect. But this is ATRL, not a surprise. Gaga's recognized by the GP as a weird artist who does weird songs, weird videos, Weird performances etc. etc., but anyone with a normal non-biased thinking wouldn't deny her being multi-talented. Whereas Katy, she's acknowledged by the GP as what? A hit maker with big boobs.
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A musical woman who has a knack as to what the general public wants to hear in these times of despair, thus a hitmaker. She also inspires a whole new young generation and has an in shape and healthy woman, she sends the right message towards girls, you don't need disorders or mental issues to be a healthy human being who can inspire billions. Katy Perry does not need to pull up the victim card, she is a survivor.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by Ethereaaal
Just the truth though. That's not even ruthless enough, there's also a general comment by the public about something that involves her talent.
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What is it? PM ME!
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Ethereaaal
This. Lol @ people's belief that sales= respect. But this is ATRL, not a surprise. Gaga's recognized by the GP as a weird artist who does weird songs, weird videos, Weird performances etc. etc., but anyone with a normal non-biased thinking wouldn't deny her being multi-talented. Whereas Katy, she's acknowledged by the GP as what? A hit maker with big boobs.
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The hit maker with big boobs is more liked and respected than the weird and insane flop maker
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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who ever has the most prestigious awards - i dont know who that is (as of right now)
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