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Celeb News: Justin bieber was neither speeding or drunk - TMZ
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Originally posted by Kendi
You really think that he went with the intention to help those woman?
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He wanted to see some titties and ass
and he paid $76,000 for it.
Like do you think that hurt those women?
I mean **** if all I have to do is show some skin for 76,000 sign me up.
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Originally posted by Kendi
You really think that he went with the intention to help those woman?
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He wanted entertainment
He paid to be entertained
He dropped, what? 10k? 20k? More?
He indirectly helped these women out by paying them.
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Originally posted by Jerome2Go
He has been rebelling since he was 16 or 17 that's nothing new , he has issues and most people around him recognize that . Usher tried to help but his family got into an argument and he got pushed away . He admitted that his own mom use to give him prescription pills to cope with a bunch of his issues .
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Justin was still kneeling to his younger fanbase at 16-17 so, no.
Pattie would rather watch her soap operas than lift a parental finger.
Jeremy is just around Justin for the free everything.
No one on his current team cares.
They know better than to make him upset because their cash flow would be cut.
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Umm.... he's still a minor and shouldn't be over 0.00. He was over it and it constitutes as a DUI charge.
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Originally posted by iStanGaga
Umm.... he's still a minor and shouldn't be over 0.00. He was over it and it constitutes as a DUI charge.
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But that's not what police report said. THAT's the point
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Originally posted by iStanGaga
Umm.... he's still a minor and shouldn't be over 0.00. He's guilty. End of story.
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Uh, no. You can't convict, minor or adult, of anything alcohol related if their Blood Alcohol is under the legal limit of 0.08.
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Originally posted by IconicFlop
Justin was still kneeling to his younger fanbase at 16-17 so, no.
Pattie would rather watch her soap operas than lift a parental finger.
Jeremy is just around Justin for the free everything.
No one on his current team cares.
They know better than to make him upset because their cash flow would be cut.
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Rebelling as in wanting his independence . I mean , the day he turned 18 and had access to his money , he bought himself a mansion
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Originally posted by IconicFlop
Uh, no. You can't convict, minor or adult, of anything alcohol related if their Blood Alcohol is under the legal limit of 0.08.
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Actually I think , it depends on the state , don't know about florida laws . I remember when I was in Indiana one of my friend was charged with underage alcohol consumption even though he was under the limit and was 20.
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Originally posted by meplusyou
But that's not what police report said. THAT's the point
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What does the police report say? According to TMZ Justin's BAC was 0.14 which under DUI laws makes him legally intoxicated because he's a minor.
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Originally posted by IconicFlop
Uh, no. You can't convict, minor or adult, of anything alcohol related if their Blood Alcohol is under the legal limit of 0.08.
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The threshold for legal intoxication is typically when a breath, blood or urine test registers a blood alcohol content of 0.08%. Minors under the legal drinking age may be declared under the influence at a lower BAC percentage.
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Under "What is DUI."
http://www.dui.com/
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Originally posted by Jerome2Go
Rebelling as in wanting his independence . I mean , the day he turned 18 and had access to his money , he bought himself a mansion
Actually I think , it depends on the state , don't know about florida laws . I remember when I was in Indiana one of my friend was charged with underage alcohol consumption even though he was under the limit and was 20.
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how is spending your own money "rebelling"?
God forbid anyone have their independence and purchase extravagant things.
I don't think any state can fine or convict if the BaC is only 0.01. (Which is what Justin's was.)
[Unless they have a zero tolerance law, then, that would be different.]
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Originally posted by iStanGaga
What does the police report say? According to TMZ Justin's BAC was 0.14 which under DUI laws makes him legally intoxicated because he's a minor.
Under "What is DUI."
http://www.dui.com/
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Didn't tmz JUST SAY that the police report stated that Justin's BAC was 0.01%? So, there would be no grounds for DUI.
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So now the argument is that he's underage?The bottom line is that he might not have been drunk and speeding like the police alleged.
Justin's haters are hilarious so now everyone is going to act like a saint and pretend they never drank when they were his age?
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Originally posted by IconicFlop
Didn't tmz JUST SAY that the police report stated that Justin's BAC was 0.01%? So, there would be no grounds for DUI.
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It doesn't matter what TMZ says his BAC is; they could be getting paid by his pr team who knows. What matters is what it says on the report that was submitted to the court and presented to the judge. He was charged with DUI; it was shown on the court video.
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Originally posted by slimsexy
So now the argument is that he's underage?The bottom line is that he might not have been drunk and speeding like the police alleged.
Justin's haters are hilarious so now everyone is going to act like a saint and pretend they never drank when they were his age?
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First of all no one is saying he was drunk. And second of all, let's not pretend his behavior is not indicative of someone heading on a slippery slope to bigger problems. So you can continue to support him; pretend like he's fine, nothing is wrong and everyone is just hating on him for no reason, but don't be surprised if he ends up hitting harder drugs, in the hospital or running over someone because it's not like this is the first time he's accused of speeding in a residency.
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Originally posted by iStanGaga
First of all no one is saying he was drunk. And second of all, let's not pretend his behavior is not indicative of someone heading on a slippery slope to bigger problems. So you can continue to support him; pretend like he's fine, nothing is wrong and everyone is just hating on him for no reason, but don't be surprised if he ends up hitting harder drugs, in the hospital or running over someone because it's not like this is the first time he's accused of speeding in a residency.
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I don't think anyone is defending his actions or arguing about his addiction . In this case though he seems to me like the cops wanted to bust him . I mean I doubt the cops was able to smell the alcohol when his blood level clearly shows he was not drinking .
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Lmaooo some posts in here. And people have the nerve to call his fans delusional
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Wth
If this is true, just leave the poor kid alone
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If he's on a slippery slope, then it's unfortunate that all the public can/wants to do is track and revel in his downfall and spit out spiteful advice. There's no doubt that he seems to continually get caught doing stupid things, something you would have hoped would have been bred out of him by a team trying to build a sustainable empire around him.
If this is true, it's kind of embarrassing and almost screams to be more a planned bust than one on defensible grounds. Morally, it seems he didn't do much wrong at all other than smoke weed, if you're against that. He possibly drank one beer (hours before the incident, based on the BAC) in the presence of his father, which is legal in many states and morally 'acceptable' in a great deal more. It's legal in my state, though I'm not familiar with Florida.
Even taking all of the stories over the past few months as true: pissing in a mop bucket, egging a house, underage drinking, smoking weed, speeding while drunk, hanging around people with cocaine; they certainly don't take him out of the realm of an ordinary teenager or make him an inherently bad person. He should know better, but should he really given the state of his parents and management?
I'll make another note that abusing those anxiety drugs--Xanax, etc.--is the saddest of what's above and probably the most dangerous. Hopefully he stays away from those.
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Did he admit to driving under the influence? And the damage is already done regardless of how innocent or guilty he is.
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