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Discussion: Tennis Thread
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You're really talking out of your ass now. Amélie has improved immensely the past couple of months, mainly because of the confidence boost that her YEC victory gave her. Her Australian Open win was well deserved. She was at the time the strongest player on the tour, regardless of the Belgian withdrawals. Her wins in Paris and Antwerp after the Open only confirmed this.
Though it's true she is not very consistent for a #1 player, she has proven that her best tennis is enough to beat all the top players, and that she can now play that tennis when it matters most.
She now holds the YEC, the Australian Open and Wimbledon. Those wins weren't flukes, she wasn't lucky. She earned them all.
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Originally posted by Kworb
You're really talking out of your ass now. Amélie has improved immensely the past couple of months, mainly because of the confidence boost that her YEC victory gave her. Her Australian Open win was well deserved. She was at the time the strongest player on the tour, regardless of the Belgian withdrawals. Her wins in Paris and Antwerp after the Open only confirmed this.
Though it's true she is not very consistent for a #1 player, she has proven that her best tennis is enough to beat all the top players, and that she can now play that tennis when it matters most.
She now holds the YEC, the Australian Open and Wimbledon. Those wins weren't flukes, she wasn't lucky. She earned them all.
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No question about the YEC and Wimbledon, but the Australian Open can be debated. You're missing the point of my post. I wasn't saying that she didn't deserve #1, but I was saying that you didn't have to have a Grand Slam to be #1. Sorry Kworb, but I am going to stand by the Belgian withdrawals in Australia. You can't honestly say that was 100% earned. I'm not picking on Mauresmo, in fact, I rooted for her against Henin-Hardenne in the finals, I'm just saying that if that happened to ANY player, then it would be under question.
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It's not Mauresmo's fault that Clijsters puts too much stress on her body and that Henin takes all kinds of medication to keep her frail body from breaking down. The fact that she didn't have to retire made her better at that tournament, and therefore she deserved the title, regardless of how her opponents could've played.
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Originally posted by Kworb
It's not Mauresmo's fault that Clijsters puts too much stress on her body and that Henin takes all kinds of medication to keep her frail body from breaking down. The fact that she didn't have to retire made her better at that tournament, and therefore she deserved the title, regardless of how her opponents could've played.
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I understand that, but in the past Mauresmo has had her share, if not more, of injuries and those she pulled out against hardly won by earning it either. Literally, I could have had 7 people pull out against me, cuz they strained their bodies and became magically sick on their own, winning me the title, but I did really have to do anything? Think about it. Jason, winner of Wimbledon, cuz 7 people pulled out. It's not my fault right? I earned it, by showing up myself.
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Yes, you still would've earned the title. A win over an injured player is still a win. I mean, just by qualifying for Wimbledon you would've at least proven you can play tennis. Being so fortunate that all of your opponents withdraw, because even in their weakened state they don't believe they can beat you, earns you the title.
However, this hypothetical situation is not what happened at the Australian Open. Mauresmo was on the verge of winning against both Clijsters and Henin, and she already showcased her form when she crushed Vaidisova and Schnyder.
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Originally posted by Kworb
Yes, you still would've earned the title. A win over an injured player is still a win. I mean, just by qualifying for Wimbledon you would've at least proven you can play tennis. Being so fortunate that all of your opponents withdraw, because even in their weakened state they don't believe they can beat you, earns you the title.
However, this hypothetical situation is not what happened at the Australian Open. Mauresmo was on the verge of winning against both Clijsters and Henin, and she already showcased her form when she crushed Vaidisova and Schnyder.
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ahh Kworb, there isn't much more to say on this topic, but I'll give you the first part.
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I'm still upset about the Venus/Bob match.
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S. Williams d. Myskina 6-2, 6-2
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She's gonna win the US Open.:scared:
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Serena used to be my tennis idol. It would be awesome if she would win this, but I doubt it.
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SHE WILL WIN THIS. I have complete faith that she's back. I mean..come on, beating Anastacia 6-2 6-2? LFR, you all are jealous.
Jason?
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Alright, it's been established Myskina played like total crap, as expected. Let's see how Serena does in the rest of the tournament
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Watch her lose to hippie Mattek.
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Originally posted by Sir. Will
SHE WILL WIN THIS. I have complete faith that she's back. I mean..come on, beating Anastacia 6-2 6-2? LFR, you all are jealous.
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I never said she was untalented, in fact I said that she can beat anyone if she really worked at it...sooo intimidating...anyways, I believe I questioned Mauresmo's dominance and Serena's "wow" factor. I just said she can be boring is all...
oh, and OMFG, 35 year old Brenda Schultz-McCarthy broke Venus William's "fastest serve record" (which she herself owned at 123 mph, before Venus broke it with 127 mph) at a whopping 130 mph for a woman!!!
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Yeah, amazing achievement for Brenda
Brenda > Misa
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Serena d. Mattek 6-3, 6-1
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Movin' on up, yeah, movin' on up!
PUTAS!
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She's in such good shape!! It's really quite fascinating
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