|
Discussion: what is lady gaga"s influence on pop culture ?
Banned
Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 2,195
|
Quote:
Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
You got clockedT
|
Clocked? You wish, can't even come back with anything but 'try again'
|
|
|
Member Since: 4/3/2014
Posts: 19,477
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Ulquiorra Allen
2008
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Lxdy Gaga
What's so weird about that??
These are not weird at all
|
"Just going to the shops"
|
|
|
Member Since: 6/9/2011
Posts: 1,560
|
Quote:
Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
Maybe you should research it if you think Gaga is not an avant garde artist, because a lot of what she does is very avant garde.
|
Quote:
The avant-garde (from French, "advance guard" or "vanguard", literally "fore-guard"[1]) are people or works that are experimental or innovative
|
oh hi, her music is generic pop, nothing innovative
which school of avant garde that she belongs to ? Abstract expressionism, Minimal art, Symbolism, Surrealism, Neo-Dada .,,,,,,,,,,,?
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 30,225
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Jawni
the pictures I posted of Katy, on the last page is nothing less than what you just posted especially the tree.
|
Actually those are all a lot less weird. And a lot of the stuff she wore in her debut era like that was all just quirky, meant to be silly and funny stuff. She really started wearing weirder actual designer stuff in 2011/2012.
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 42,704
|
Quote:
Originally posted by lonnie
Avant garde means pioneering or before it's time. Every single thing Gaga did had already been done before, educate yourself.
An example of an avant garde artist is Bjork.
|
Wooooooooah. Try a biT too hard aren't you sis?
|
|
|
Member Since: 5/24/2012
Posts: 6,501
|
Rolling Stones put it best
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 42,704
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Jawni
Clocked? You wish, can't even come back with anything but 'try again'
|
Doesn't change the fact that you and your embarrassing "receipts" got scalpedT, snatchedT, draggedT and clockedT
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 18,038
|
Quote:
Originally posted by TheNight
I'm not gonna rehash things that have already been mentioned here, but one thing that hasn't been discussed is the whole 'love yourself' movement in pop music/pop culture in 2010-2011 that Gaga arguably brought back to the mainstream. Before anyone says it, these are not ideas that Gaga 'invented', nor are they exclusively attributed to her. However, it's obvious that the trend (in 2010-2011) can be directly, or at least in large part, traced back to Gaga. Now, I could be wrong of course, but it seems to me that it was Gaga who started the 'love yourself' talk of the time, during her The Monster Ball tour (and actually even before that - I remember seeing interviews of her talking about self-acceptance back in early 2009), which led up to her self-acceptance anthem Born This Way in 2011. Ironically, during that time Gaga was making those love-it-or-hate-it speeches about self-love during her tour and recording Born This Way, other artists seemed to jump on the chance to release their own self-acceptance songs. (Ex: Katy Perry's "Firework", P!nk's "F**ckin' Perfect", Bruno Mars' "Just the Way You Are", and Kesha's "We R Who We R") Now, I'm not complaining about this in the slightest, as the more people we have pioneering and fighting for people to love themselves, the better, but is it really just a coincidence that these songs were released after/during Gaga's very public campaign for self-acceptance?
|
The fact that some of the songs you've mentioned like just the way you are were recorded in 2009 and released in 2010 a year before Gaga even released BTW goes to prove the little monsters limited knowledge of music outside Lady Gaga
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 30,225
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Rihinvention
"Just going to the shops"
|
Did she ever wear that kinda stuff when she wasn't performing though? And that's not nearly as weird as some of the stuff she wore in 2011.
Quote:
Originally posted by Ulquiorra Allen
oh hi, her music is generic pop, nothing innovative
which school of avant garde that she belongs to ? Abstract expressionism, Minimal art, Symbolism, Surrealism, Neo-Dada .,,,,,,,,,,,?
|
Avant Garde is different from the norm. It challenges people's views of what is normal, and is meant to garner a reaction from people. Gaga's performance at the 2009 VMA's, for example, is a VERY Avant Garde performance. A lot of what she does is. I took a class on this stuff and Gaga was very often referenced.
|
|
|
Member Since: 10/18/2003
Posts: 3,119
|
Those poor souls trying to discredit her influence :').....theres à " before "and "after" Gaga, EVERYBODY knows it, even you pressed souls Who are trying hard :')
|
|
|
Member Since: 4/3/2014
Posts: 19,477
|
Mess. All of you.
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 18,038
|
Quote:
Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
Wooooooooah. Try a biT too hard aren't you sis?
|
Tell me one thing Gaga did that hadn't been done before.
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 42,704
|
Quote:
Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
|
Pop culture really is HER bitch
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 30,225
|
Can you guys please explain why everybody said Christina was copying Gaga in both 2008 and 2010 if Gaga's weirdness was nothing new, it had always been there, etc? Same with people saying Katy was trying to be Gaga with her weirdness, and Nicki?
|
|
|
Member Since: 6/9/2011
Posts: 1,560
|
Quote:
Originally posted by TheNight
I'm not gonna rehash things that have already been mentioned here, but one thing that hasn't been discussed is the whole 'love yourself' movement in pop music/pop culture in 2010-2011 that Gaga arguably brought back to the mainstream. Before anyone says it, these are not ideas that Gaga 'invented', nor are they exclusively attributed to her. However, it's obvious that the trend (in 2010-2011) can be directly, or at least in large part, traced back to Gaga. Now, I could be wrong of course, but it seems to me that it was Gaga who started the 'love yourself' talk of the time, during her The Monster Ball tour (and actually even before that - I remember seeing interviews of her talking about self-acceptance back in early 2009), which led up to her self-acceptance anthem Born This Way in 2011. Ironically, during that time Gaga was making those love-it-or-hate-it speeches about self-love during her tour and recording Born This Way, other artists seemed to jump on the chance to release their own self-acceptance songs. (Ex: Katy Perry's "Firework", P!nk's "F**ckin' Perfect", Bruno Mars' "Just the Way You Are", and Kesha's "We R Who We R") Now, I'm not complaining about this in the slightest, as the more people we have pioneering and fighting for people to love themselves, the better, but is it really just a coincidence that these songs were released after/during Gaga's very public and well known campaign for self-acceptance?
|
some love-yourself songs
i am me- ashlee simpson
beautiful- james blunt
beautiful- christina aguilera
who i am- jessica andrews
unpretty- tlc
a little bit stronger- sarah evans
unwritten-natasha bedingfield
Stronger Woman by Jewel
More beautiful you by Jonny Diaz
Video by India arie
|
|
|
Member Since: 10/1/2011
Posts: 33,423
|
Quote:
Originally posted by TheNight
I'm not gonna rehash things that have already been mentioned here, but one thing that hasn't been discussed is the whole 'love yourself' movement in pop music/pop culture in 2010-2011 that Gaga arguably brought back to the mainstream. Before anyone says it, these are not ideas that Gaga 'invented', nor are they exclusively attributed to her. However, it's obvious that the trend (in 2010-2011) can be directly, or at least in large part, traced back to Gaga. Now, I could be wrong of course, but it seems to me that it was Gaga who started the 'love yourself' talk of the time, during her The Monster Ball tour (and actually even before that - I remember seeing interviews of her talking about self-acceptance back in early 2009), which led up to her self-acceptance anthem Born This Way in 2011. Ironically, during that time Gaga was making those love-it-or-hate-it speeches about self-love during her tour and recording Born This Way, other artists seemed to jump on the chance to release their own self-acceptance songs. (Ex: Katy Perry's "Firework", P!nk's "F**ckin' Perfect", Bruno Mars' "Just the Way You Are", and Kesha's "We R Who We R") Now, I'm not complaining about this in the slightest, as the more people we have pioneering and fighting for people to love themselves, the better, but is it really just a coincidence that these songs were released after/during Gaga's very public and well known campaign for self-acceptance?
|
I'm pretty sure all those songs you listed came out before BTW so that kinda cancels out your theory but I do agree that in terms of the self love campaign that so belongs to Stefani
|
|
|
Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 18,038
|
Quote:
Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
Did she ever wear that kinda stuff when she wasn't performing though? And that's not nearly as weird as some of the stuff she wore in 2011.
Avant Garde is different from the norm. It challenges people's views of what is normal, and is meant to garner a reaction from people. Gaga's performance at the 2009 VMA's, for example, is a VERY Avant Garde performance. A lot of what she does is. I took a class on this stuff and Gaga was very often referenced.
|
No that's not the meaning of avant-garde.
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 42,704
|
Quote:
Originally posted by KESTER
Rolling Stones put it best
|
There you have hunTies
|
|
|
Member Since: 4/3/2014
Posts: 19,477
|
Quote:
Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
Did she ever wear that kinda stuff when she wasn't performing though? And that's not nearly as weird as some of the stuff she wore in 2011.
|
idk hahaha, I wasn't the one who originally posted it. I just found it funny that someone said it "wasn't weird at all"
|
|
|
ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 4,821
|
Quote:
Originally posted by lonnie
The fact that some of the songs you've mentioned like just the way you are were recorded in 2009 and released in 2010 a year before Gaga even released BTW goes to prove the little monsters limited knowledge of music outside Lady Gaga
|
- There's no need to be so rude. There's kinder ways of getting your point across.
- Did you miss the part where I mentioned that Gaga had been vocal about self-acceptance since early 2009?
|
|
|
|
|