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Originally posted by Monster
Way to reduce the efforts and contributions of the gay community. The LGBT community doesn't need hand outs, they are perfectly capable of sustaining their own movement.
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That's definitely not true. All movements need allies and then we need to convince the opposition. It takes a whole village. I don't know why everyone here has this "it's me against the world" attitude. For society to change, you need all (or at least most) of the society with you.
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Originally posted by P!nkism
This. Let's give all the credit for gay rights to women.
Where were these women during the Stonewall riots which triggered the whole GAY RIGHTS MOVEMENT?
Some organizations with women have helped the gay rights movement, but gay rights evolution is largely due to gay men and women.
Not straight women.
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I don't see anybody in this thread giving all the credit for gay rights to straight women. They said they were contributors in the gay rights movement and that's not false. Speaking of Stonewall, feminists did support gay men then.
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Originally posted by Lippy
I don't need to do anything when half of the homophobes are women.
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That's actually false. Statistics of Americans have shown that females are more open to gay rights than men (and if you want to get into race, it's usually white women).
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Originally posted by MadonnasBoyfriend
Women have enough rights this isn't the 50s
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You've got to be kidding. Women still deal with strong resistance in higher positions in the workplace and let's not even get into how unsafe it is for them even in more liberal areas. You've already shown how limited understanding of social issues in the Daniel Dae Kim thread so I guess it shouldn't be surprising to see a theme here. Maybe if you'd change your mind if your idol Madonna said it like when you quickly agreed with her on comment on ageism.
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Originally posted by Kayhan
True dat. Let's remember ISIS throwing gays out from a building.
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Since when one incident with a terrorist group representative of the gay experience? Gay men getting murdered is very rare. I think you're confusing countries like Pakistan with the Middle East. The average gay man in the Middle East will live a comfortable life in secret like closeted gay men in more liberal areas. On the other hand, there's no secret when you're a woman. You have a role to play.