[satellites.™]

Originally posted by staracademy1990

Those 3 markets =/= WW. What's so hard to get?

Worldwide means ALL MARKETS.

If Rihanna takes the big three don't you think she wins the whole go?

Platinum in the three biggest markets added in one is more than ALL those those smaller countries put together and multiplied by two.

[TheOnlyOne]

Originally posted by Acclaimed

Just because your artist feel that way doesn't make it legit. Sorry to break that to you.

Find me a US act who's biggest priority is breaking into the Latin American market.
Find me a UK act doing the same. Or a Japanese act.

You won't, cause it don't happen.

South America and Africa are nothing more than the bread basket at dinner. It's great if you get it, but if not, no one gives a **** cause you're here for the entree. And Rihanna ate it up.

[Acclaimed]

Originally posted by HandsOn

I don't know. How big is Shakira in Asia?

She has the record for biggest concert in India I think. And her sales are the biggest of that of a foreign artist in India, and India is the biggest in Asia. Illegal or legal downloads.

[staracademy1990]

Originally posted by Deemy

Because the poll is discussing current popularity. If both of them were to die tomorrow, who would draw more media attention?? Ok.

He just asked the bigger WW star, didn't specify time, which means everything should be taken into consideration

[Deemy]

Latin America is not the WORLD. Just because she's bigger in one continent proves nothing.

She may be bigger in 2. But RIh is bigger in the other 5. So..

NA - RIh
SA - Shakira
EU- Rihanna (Im going by sales on this one, deal.)
AFR- Shakira
Asia - RIhanna
Oceania - Rihanna
Antarctica - N/A

[EOMM92]

Originally posted by TheOnlyOne

Find me a US act who's biggest priority is breaking into the Latin American market.
Find me a UK act doing the same. Or a Japanese act.

You won't, cause it don't happen.

South America and Africa are nothing more than the bread basket at dinner. It's great if you get it, but if not, no one gives a **** cause you're here for the entree. And Rihanna ate it up.

How disgusting of you.

And the ignorance in this post is beyond words

As i said Latin America is where touring money is, Madonna and Gaga know this honey, so don't go for those countries cause i'll drag you to the pits..

[TheOnlyOne]

Originally posted by Acclaimed

In the U = she didn't colour her hair red so she didn't get the sales there. In the UK Shaki wasn't a skank so she didn't get the sales there. In Australia she doesn't release her music at all, in Japan they don't like latinos, and in Indonesia and Kazakhstan Shakira wins. Who cares what the penguins on Antarctica listen to?

This logic needs to be saved somewhere.

[Deemy]

Originally posted by staracademy1990

He just asked the bigger WW star, didn't specify time, which means everything should be taken into consideration

But one of them has been out for years longer. Wouldnt it be fair to both to take it from 2005 onwards. I mean.. thats the only logical way to do it.

[staracademy1990]

Originally posted by satellites™

Worldwide means ALL MARKETS.

If Rihanna takes the big three don't you think she wins the whole go?

Platinum in the three biggest markets added in one is more than ALL those those smaller countries put together and multiplied by two.

US+UK+Japan make about 500 million people out of 6.8 billion WW
So I don't know why some of you are ignoring the other 6.3 billion people

[Acclaimed]

Originally posted by TheOnlyOne

This logic needs to be saved somewhere.

Where you wanna put it? Lemme now.

[zzmyth]

OKAY.... lets sum up a bit....

LAST 5 YEARS:

RIHANNA:

ALBUMS:

GGGB:

·9.500.000 copies
·Certified in +30 countries
·36.000.000 singles sold
·30.000.000 $ tour

RR:

·3.500.000 copies
·Certified in +15 countries
·14.000.000 singles sold
·45.000.000 $ tour

LOUD:

·6.500.000 copies
·Certified in +25 countries
·24.000.000 singles sold
·90.000.000 $ tour

TTT:

·2.700.000 copies
·Certified in +10 countries
·12.000.000 singles sold
· No tour yet.

TOTAL:

22.200.000 albums sold.
+75 different certifications
86.000.000 singles sold
165.000.000 $ grossed

LAST 5 YEARS:

ALBUMS:

SHAKIRA:

SW:

·2.500.000 copies
·Certified in +15 countries
·9.000.000 singles sold
·No tour. (I will give her half of OF tour that went to 2007) 50.000.000 $

SES:

·3.500.000 copies
·Certified in +20 countries (10 of which latin countries)
·7.000.000 singles sold
·100.000.000 $ tour.

TOTAL:

6.000.000 albums sold.
+35 different certifications
16.000.000 singles sold
150.000.000 $ grossed

[T.C]

This ones definetely more challening then the Sha vs Bey one. Since both Rih and Sha are bigger globally then Bey....But overall i'll give this to Rhi

[TheOnlyOne]

Originally posted by EOMM92

How disgusting of you.

And the ignorance in this post is beyond words

As i said Latin America is where touring money is, Madonna and Gaga know this honey, so don't go for those countries cause i'll drag you to the pits..

It's not ignorant, honey, it's the facts. The music market of Latin America + Africa is nothing spectacular. No one is striving for them. Everyone knows this. I don't know why your oversensitivity is causing confusion, but it's just something you'll have to deal with.

Again, sorry bout it.

[Acclaimed]

Shakira wins at the poll. I think Rih stans should create multiple accounts right NOW! This is so unfair.

Bye.

[TheOnlyOne]

Originally posted by Acclaimed

Where you wanna put it? Lemme now.

The pits of hell.

[satellites.™]

Originally posted by staracademy1990

US+UK+Japan make about 500 million people out of 6.8 billion WW
So I don't know why some of you are ignoring the other 6.3 billion people

Sweetie, not all of them are checking for pop stars, stop trying to make it literal.

And the icing on the cake is that the Loud Tour also grossed more, furthering my point.

[Mélina]

Antarctica is basically a frozen island that is uninhabited (sp?) by human life. Microrganism live there under the ice's surface but I'm pretty sure they don't give a **** about Rihanna or Shakira. Can it please stop being listed?

[EOMM92]

Originally posted by TheOnlyOne

It's not ignorant, honey, it's the facts. The music market of Latin America + Africa is nothing spectacular. No one is striving for them. Everyone knows this. I don't know why your oversensitivity is causing confusion, but it's just something you'll have to deal with.

Again, sorry bout it.

Hun, money and power are so not in album and single sales..

It's in touring and promo, so of course, everyone in the music industry would love to sell out 70k-100k stadiums, and that can only be done in Latin America and some other places if you're name is U2, so get these "facts" that you're speaking of right

I'm done with you and your ignorant arguments and receipts.

[staracademy1990]

Originally posted by zzmyth

OKAY.... lets sum up a bit....

dead at you comparing 4 albums vs 2

[Tantei]

Those numbers don't say anything...Rihanna released 2 albums more and Shakira only did 1 tour...
@ satellites... the SES tour grossed more than the Loud tour.