[swissman]

Originally posted by Mariano

The same can be said about Beyonce and her reviving of VISUAL albums

Uh…. to some extent but there is a considerable difference. There are only a handful of visual albums. Can you name more than 7? Can you name more than one from someone in the mainstream pop field? However, there are HUNDREDS of large-scale music videos out there. Regardless of Gaga's videos or not, there would still have been music video debuts every month. Can you say the same for the visual album? So you see, there is a big difference between doing something that has been done from the start of videos to doing something that has only rarely been done.

Also if we really want to get into the power of the music video as it relates to both Beyonce and Gaga, then it should be said that Single Ladies was one of the biggest, most talked about and iconic videos of 2008/2009 in a time when Gaga's only video was Just Dance. It undoubtedly showed the power of a good music video.

[Mariano]

Originally posted by swissman

Uh…. to some extent but there is a considerable difference. There are only a handful of visual albums. Can you name more than 7? Can you name more than one from someone in the mainstream pop field? However, there are HUNDREDS of large-scale music videos out there. Regardless of Gaga's videos or not, there would still have been music video debuts every month. Can you say the same for the visual album?

Also if we really want to get into the power of the music video as it relates to both Beyonce and Gaga, then it should be said that Single Ladies was one of the biggest, most talked about and iconic videos of 2008/2009 in a time when Gaga's only video was Just Dance. It undoubtedly showed the power of a good music video.

Yes but the point is not in what video was bigger
Gaga started making GREAT videos, with storylines, amazing shots etc.. And I really can't understand why are we arguing when Gaga is not even doing visual album

Fact: Gaga revived music videos importance.
While it's definitely not sure whether Beyonce did something revolutionary or not.. I am not seeing any artist doing visual album in the near future and not because they will be called copycats but It's just not necessary ... I mean you said it yourself .. VISUAL Albums are rare..

[swissman]

Originally posted by Mariano

Yes but the point is not in what video was bigger
Gaga started making GREAT videos, with storylines, amazing shots etc.. And I really can't understand why are we arguing when Gaga is not even doing visual album

Fact: Gaga revived music videos importance.
While it's definitely not sure whether Beyonce did something revolutionary or not.. I am not seeing any artist doing visual album in the near future and not because they will be called copycats but It's just not necessary ... I mean you said it yourself .. VISUAL Albums are rare..

Exactly. They are rare. So if Gaga is made a visual album as this thread is meant to discuss, the fact that Beyonce's was the biggest and most recent visual album means that Gaga would be compared to it. Simply stating that Gaga revived music video interest doesn't mean she can't be compared to this which is where all the unnecessary Gaga vs. Beyonce topics are stemming from.

[Mariano]

Originally posted by swissman

Exactly. They are rare. So if Gaga is made a visual album as this thread is meant to discuss, the fact that Beyonce's was the biggest and most recent visual album means that Gaga would be compared to it. Simply stating that Gaga revived music video interest doesn't mean she can't be compared to this which is where all the unnecessary Gaga vs. Beyonce topics are stemming from.

So we can just agree that this thread is completely useless And I agree that Gaga will be compared to Beyonce, but I got irritated at all the people coming and saying "How try hard" or "how desperate" or "She should do something else" like It's confirmed she is doing visual album

Imagine her doing visual album (10 videos) in the same castle

[Ressti]

Originally posted by swissman

Uh…. to some extent but there is a considerable difference. There are only a handful of visual albums. Can you name more than 7? Can you name more than one from someone in the mainstream pop field? However, there are HUNDREDS of large-scale music videos out there. Regardless of Gaga's videos or not, there would still have been music video debuts every month. Can you say the same for the visual album?

Also if we really want to get into the power of the music video as it relates to both Beyonce and Gaga, then it should be said that Single Ladies was one of the biggest, most talked about and iconic videos of 2008/2009 in a time when Gaga's only video was Just Dance. It undoubtedly showed the power of a good music video.

There's very few visual albums. TBH, the only ones I knew about were BEYONCÉ and B'Day.

So I looked it up and the first visual album, or video album was released in 1981 by The Tubes. But they didn't visualize every song.


Actually a year before that in 1980, Split Enz released their album True Colours, which at first wasn't a video album, but later that year they did eventually release promo clips for every song on the album.


I think the videos started to get more expensive in the 80's and especially in the 90's, thanks to MJ. So I suppose there weren't many video albums back then.

There isn't even a wikipedia page for video albums.

[swissman]

Originally posted by Mariano

So we can just agree that this thread is completely useless And I agree that Gaga will be compared to Beyonce, but I got irritated at all the people coming and saying "How try hard" or "how desperate" or "She should do something else" like It's confirmed she is doing visual album

Imagine her doing visual album (10 videos) in the same castle

I don't think this thread is any more useless than any thread that proposes a scenario and then gets people to discuss it.

I can see how it is frustrating to hear some people who only have biter things to say though. I do not think it'd be try hard for Gaga to make a visual album. Like I said before, I'd welcome her doing this. I want there to be more visual albums. I want BEYONCÉ to start something. I want Beyonce to make more visual albums, fuelled by the fact that other people are doing it too, coming up with new ways to impress in a format that is getting saturated, etc.

[Soda Pop Queen]

Beyoncé didn't invent the visual album but a lot of folks don't seem to remember that she was making a video for every song on B'Day 7 years ago. They just weren't released at the same time as the album like BEYONCÉ but it's the same concept almost.

but Gaga is free to try it. Just don't want to see any 10+ min. long pieces of hodge podge messes.

[Beatfreak]

This should have been done with the original release of the album.

I also think ARTPOP volume 2 is a bad idea. Just move on to a new project.

[Istan4R]

It doesn't matter if she thought of this in 2012 lol it's still gonna be seen as copying Bey. You really think the GP is gonna know that is was a plan of Gagas?

[VyktorJonas]

Originally posted by swissman

I don't think this thread is any more useless than any thread that proposes a scenario and then gets people to discuss it.

I can see how it is frustrating to hear some people who only have biter things to say though. I do not think it'd be try hard for Gaga to make a visual album. Like I said before, I'd welcome her doing this. I want there to be more visual albums. I want BEYONCÉ to start something. I want Beyonce to make more visual albums, fuelled by the fact that other people are doing it too, coming up with new ways to impress in a format that is getting saturated, etc.

it's a music forum, I proposed a theme about music to discuss, that's all

Originally posted by Mariano

Y'all are seriously something else

" Gaga should do something different" And she is doing exactly that She is not filming videos for every song, this thread is not in CELEBRIA it's in Base, because it's a ****ing Discussion, doesn't mean that she is doing a visual album out of ARTPOP.

And another thing - WOW, OMG etc.. are signs of having NO ARGUMENTS, so thanks for agreeing with my statement.

[theworldfamous]

You really think the media won't rip her a new one for this?

The GP doesn't care if the stans can pull out the receipts that it was Gaga's idea in 2012, in fact - I don't think stans are powerful enough to undo the damage.

Gaga, sweetheart, just put out Act Two and sell out.

[leemaj]

I don't think releasing music videos for all the current ARTPOP songs will do much.
The album is dying and FAST showing that people aren't here for those songs so she should simply release new music for Artpop: Act II and make videos for those songs not the old ones.

[Flawfree]

Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚

She has been planning to do this MONTHS before Bey dropped her album

It'll be pointless to make a video for every song at this point.
That trilogy is good enough.

You realize Beyonce has done the "a video for every song" thing since B'Day: The Videography back in 2006 before Gaga was even famous right? Don't even try it.