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Fan Base: Archived: Rihanna (#1)
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
Which albums do you guys still listen to regularly - in start to finish? I only listen to a select few tracks from MOTS, AGLM, and Loud, and while I do listen to GGGB from start to finish frequently, I don't as often as I do RR and TTT.
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Lately i listen to RR and TTT from start to finish, Loud sometimes but i feel like i have to skip a few tracks, same as GGGB. I dont even have all the tracks from the first two
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Originally posted by Stevie
Love, which is the theme of this era, is barley a theme. At least Loud had a defining image and even though many of the songs are different, they all connect to the theme of loudness. I like TTT and at first I liked it better than Loud but it faded quickly. I feel like TTT is a bland era and many of the songs don't take risks because the album feels like "best of Rihanna" for me, sans We Found Love and Drunk On Love.
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Hmm good point, i never thought of it that way. But to be honest, even though i respect Rihanna for taking risks and trying out new genres and stuff on Loud, the genre hopping was just too much for me, i didnt get it at times. I mean California King Bed to Man Down
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
It's a common misconception both within and outside of the Navy that CKB flopped, but Europe actually ate it up.
It went top 20 in a couple other European countries, as well. The best part is that most of the countries that didn't pick up CKB picked up MD instead, save for, well, the US.
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CKB happens to be one of my favorite songs on Loud so this makes me extremely happy. I'm glad it was able to find success in Europe. I believe both CKB & Man Down could have been hits in the US if they were released separately and promoted, but Def Jam definitely dropped the ball there.
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Originally posted by SLAYANNA NAVY
Hmm good point, i never thought of it that way. But to be honest, even though i respect Rihanna for taking risks and trying out new genres and stuff on Loud, the genre hopping was just too much for me, i didnt get it at times. I mean California King Bed to Man Down
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That is why it is not a cohesive album. But the only flaws to me, on that album, are Raining Men and California King Bed.
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by SLAYANNA NAVY
Hmm good point, i never thought of it that way. But to be honest, even though i respect Rihanna for taking risks and trying out new genres and stuff on Loud, the genre hopping was just too much for me, i didnt get it at times. I mean California King Bed to Man Down
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That's exactly the problem I have with Loud, it's a good album but it doesn't have a direction it's just several hits and some slower jams put on a record, it's not going anywhere.
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
I don't actually believe that that opinion is a lie - because, well, it's an opinion. I'm only using a common ATRL colloquialism.
And Loud is her worst post-AGLM album to date. TTT far exceeds it.
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I know. But why act like everyone else on here? It's boring.
As for the second part:
Loud flaws - RM and CKB
Loud strengths - S&M, MD, WMN, OG, LTWYL2
TTT flaws - BC, FIL, YDO
TTT strengths - WFL, DOL, WHYB
4th and 5th are RMO and TTT but I feel like they are not defining strengths because they are similar to older songs. So, that is why I like Loud better than Talk Talk Talk.
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Originally posted by Peep Show
That's exactly the problem I have with Loud, it's a good album but it doesn't have a direction it's just several hits and some slower jams put on a record, it's not going anywhere.
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+ 1, i think the main problem behind it was due to Rihanna not having as much input in the record as she usually does, like TTT she wrote some of her material and had less writers/producers on the album whereas Loud literally had some many different producers and writers the album was bound to go slightly off track somewhere.
I hope with this next album and new sound shes been talking about really is cohesive and she writes more of the material.
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Originally posted by Stevie
No. How can you say "lies" when no one on this page agrees with you. Even Loud is better than TTT.
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Basically.
RR > GGGB > Loud > TTT > AGLM = MOTS
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Originally posted by Peep Show
That's exactly the problem I have with Loud, it's a good album but it doesn't have a direction it's just several hits and some slower jams put on a record, it's not going anywhere.
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But where does Talk That Talk go? Nowhere. At least Loud was a state of mind she was in. Talk Talk Talk tries to tell about love, but it really doesn't relate to her besides the fact that she may be horny.
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Originally posted by SLAYANNA NAVY
+ 1, i think the main problem behind it was due to Rihanna not having as much input in the record as she usually does, like TTT she wrote some of her material and had less writers/producers on the album whereas Loud literally had some many different producers and writers the album was bound to go slightly off track somewhere.
I hope with this next album and new sound shes been talking about really is cohesive and she writes more of the material.
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Exactly I think Rihanna didn't feel like doing the album but Def Jam pushed her to get her back on top after Rated R and you can definitely hear that it sounds rushed.
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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Originally posted by Peep Show
Exactly I think Rihanna didn't feel like doing the album but Def Jam pushed her to get her back on top after Rated R and you can definitely hear that it sounds rushed.
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And thats why i can't connect with Loud as much as TTT, Loud doesn't sound 100% rihanna, it sounds too produced like she wasn't really there for it. Even with me saying this, Man Down and Whats My Name are in my top 10 songs from her so i guess i cant complain too much
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Peep Show
Yeah I see where you're coming from but that's actually why I prefer it over TTT, in my opinion GGGB really has longevity. After 5 years I can still listen to it through out and it still sounds fresh to me everytime. It's only been 4 months since TTT was released and i'm already kinda bored of it which is sad because I really loved it when it came out. I'm not saying that I dislike the album now, it's still in my top 3 but it didn't have the longevity I was hoping for.
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I'm still not at all bored of TTT but I understand where you're coming from. I may hate TTT in 5 years.
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Does anyone have any guesses as to what this new sound will be that she's working on?
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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Originally posted by SLAYANNA NAVY
+ 1, I hope with this next album and new sound shes been talking about really is cohesive and she writes more of the material.
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I refuse to put her in a box regarding next era. That would ruin the potential surprise and brilliance of the era. However, I do want more creative and meaningful themes and lyrics. Less love and sex songs. No more trying to act like a bad girl.
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Originally posted by Grim
Does anyone have any guesses as to what this new sound will be that she's working on?
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Nope, not a clue. Im still a bit dubious as to whether she actually has a new sound, i mean there were rumors of her collaborating with chase and status again and shes already done that so who knows We will just have to wait till septem...i mean next year to find out
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Originally posted by Stevie
I refuse to put her in a box regarding next era. That would ruin the potential surprise and brilliance of the era. However, I do want more creative and meaningful themes and lyrics. Less love and sex songs. No more trying to act like a bad girl.
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But once a good girl goes bad, they die forever
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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Originally posted by Grim
Does anyone have any guesses as to what this new sound will be that she's working on?
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I don't know. She couldn't even explain it. I hope it isn't dance or pop. I would like a more urban feel, which is what we though Talk That Talk was going to be like.
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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Originally posted by SLAYANNA NAVY
But once a good girl goes bad, they die forever
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I am all here for dark and edgy themes. Just not trying to live a "thug life" when she really has no idea what that is.
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Originally posted by Stevie
I don't know. She couldn't even explain it. I hope it isn't dance or pop. I would like a more urban feel, which is what we though Talk That Talk was going to be like.
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Most of TTT is actually urban though and we saw how it turned out I love her urban music but urban Rihanna just ain't gonna happen, the majority of her fanbase and the general public prefer her pop sound which is why WFL smashed so hard and the rest didn't.
But honestly the thought of a new album is just too much for me right now
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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Originally posted by Stevie
I am all here for dark and edgy themes. Just not trying to live a "thug life" when she really has no idea what that is.
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Agreed, but i dont want her to duplicate RR, also..
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Originally posted by Stevie
I don't know. She couldn't even explain it. I hope it isn't dance or pop. I would like a more urban feel, which is what we though Talk That Talk was going to be like.
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TTT is urban, TTT, RMO, WNL, BC, Cockiness, DYT are all quite urban tracks to be honest. Its the most urban Rihanna has been since RR. However the general public dont seem to be here for Urban Rihanna unless its a crossover hit like Rude Boy/Whats My Name.
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Member Since: 9/29/2010
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Originally posted by SLAYANNA NAVY
Nope, not a clue. Im still a bit dubious as to whether she actually has a new sound, i mean there were rumors of her collaborating with chase and status again and shes already done that so who knows We will just have to wait till septem...i mean next year to find out
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I don't want another rushed album.
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Originally posted by Stevie
I don't know. She couldn't even explain it. I hope it isn't dance or pop. I would like a more urban feel, which is what we though Talk That Talk was going to be like.
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TTT is pretty urban, though. BC alone is more urban than anything on Loud.
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