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Fan Base: Archived: Kelly Clarkson (#1)
Member Since: 8/30/2011
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DS is #67 on UK iTunes 
Shut up those naysayers!
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by RyChandler
Coming in at #2 is a lot better than being sandwiched (club style) between 3 or 4 other major released and not breaking 100K though...
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1. Not sure what artist you're talking about but it's none of my favs. They all bring in 6 figures in their first week. 
2. When you said club style, it took be a good minute to realize you were talking about the sandwich and not an actual dance club where you're in between a bunch of people and grinding up against all of them. 
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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So the bullets will be the # of spins from the previous weeks? And how the hell do radios measure Audience Impressions? I find that concept so strange.  |
The bullet is the difference in spins between today and exactly one week ago I believe. I'm not sure how measuring AI works. I just know that it involves a lot of statistics 
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Member Since: 12/28/2011
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So the bullets will be the # of spins from the previous weeks? And how the hell do radios measure Audience Impressions? I find that concept so strange. |
I'm not 100% positive on the dynamics but it's something like this: They measure audience impressions based on the radio stations that play the song. Every station has a market rank based on the amount of people their station gets broadcasted to. For example the #1 station in the US for Top 40 is Z100 as they get broadcasted to the largest amount of people being NYC. Let's say a large Hot AC station is broadcast to about 1 million listeners.. the audience impression would be 1 million for that station. So if Dark Side is played on the station (and here I don't know if it depends on how many times the song is played throughout a day/week or not) but the AI for Dark Side would be 1 milliion since the station that played it is broadcasted to 1 mil people. And then the AI's are just added up based on what stations play the song and what their individual station's AI is.
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that reminds me, where the heck is dhila? I feel kinda scared in case he's actually out there trying to kidnap Kelly  |
No im NOT!
im still working with preparation kidnap kelly
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by MJ Boston
I'm not 100% positive on the dynamics but it's something like this: They measure audience impressions based on the radio stations that play the song. Every station has a market rank based on the amount of people their station gets broadcasted to. For example the #1 station in the US for Top 40 is Z100 as they get broadcasted to the largest amount of people being NYC. Let's say a large Hot AC station is broadcast to about 1 million listeners.. the audience impression would be 1 million for that station. So if Dark Side is played on the station (and here I don't know if it depends on how many times the song is played throughout a day/week or not) but the AI for Dark Side would be 1 milliion since the station that played it is broadcasted to 1 mil people. And then the AI's are just added up based on what stations play the song and what their individual station's AI is.
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Hmmmmm...and the AI counts once for every week, I'm assuming, and not every time they play the song?
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Member Since: 12/28/2011
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Hmmmmm...and the AI counts once for every week, I'm assuming, and not every time they play the song? |
It counts per day and is added up over the course of a week, yes. If a station's AI is 1 million, a song won't receive 1 million every time they play the song (like if it's played 4x a day it's not 4m AI). I think it depends how many spins the song gets per station and that's how they estimate the amount of people that heard it. The AI that we see on the chart is an estimate of the amount of people that hear the song in a weekly period, essentially. So over in the radio chart thread, when we get the daily radio updates a song will have like a (+1.025) next to it, that means more stations were playing the song, or it was played more on a large station and the AI is 1.025 million more people that heard the song than the day before. It is confusing, I know. So when Z100 puts a song in power rotation, the AI will jump a lot because it's being played more over the course of a day and it's a huge station with tons of listeners.
And by the way, yes, the bullet of a song is the difference in spins over from that same point 7 days earlier. Forgot to answer that part in your last question.
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Member Since: 10/27/2010
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Originally posted by dhilamilan1899
No im NOT!
im still working with preparation kidnap kelly
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 Good Luck dhlia.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by MJ Boston
It counts per day and is added up over the course of a week, yes. If a station's AI is 1 million, a song won't receive 1 million every time they play the song (like if it's played 4x a day it's not 4m AI). I think it depends how many spins the song gets per station and that's how they estimate the amount of people that heard it. The AI that we see on the chart is an estimate of the amount of people that hear the song in a weekly period, essentially. So over in the radio chart thread, when we get the daily radio updates a song will have like a (+1.025) next to it, that means more stations were playing the song, or it was played more on a large station and the AI is 1.025 million more people that heard the song than the day before. It is confusing, I know. So when Z100 puts a song in power rotation, the AI will jump a lot because it's being played more over the course of a day and it's a huge station with tons of listeners.
And by the way, yes, the bullet of a song is the difference in spins over from that same point 7 days earlier. Forgot to answer that part in your last question.
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Member Since: 12/28/2011
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
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Or I'm just really not explaining it that well. Which is likely. LOL.
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Member Since: 9/24/2011
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what Kelly Clarkson merchandise you have? 
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Member Since: 10/27/2010
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Or I'm just really not explaining it that well. Which is likely. LOL.
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Eh mj, can i ask something? SO as of today, dark side ai on hot ac is 1.4m? But then the latest overall ai update we got was 1.1m which was i think 1 or 2 days ago right?
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Edge, in simpler terms, the AI is a measure of how many people a song is broadcast to in a week. It is calculated using formulas based on the relative sizes of the radio stations playing a song. So right now the AI for Dark Side is around 1.5. This means that around 1,500,000 people will be the audience for the entire week.
Notice that everyday we get AI updates, like +0.125. That happens because a song is getting played more than it was yesterday, and so the expected audience for the full week will be 125,000 greater than what we thought it would be. This happens because radio stations are playing a song more and more with each passing day, not playing it the same amount everyday. The increases are also bigger when a big station, which broadcasts to a bigger audience, starts playing a song. 
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I thought this was the place in Australia and got really excited...But yay! I think she did SUBG and MLWSWY last time. She's probably gonna do Dark Side and probably Stronger cuz it was such a monster...Any chance Stronger can get back into the top 10 in the UK?
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by Taigan
Edge, in simpler terms, the AI is a measure of how many people a song is broadcast to in a week. It is calculated using formulas based on the relative sizes of the radio stations playing a song. So right now the AI for Dark Side is around 1.5. This means that around 1,500,000 people will be the audience for the entire week.
Notice that everyday we get AI updates, like +0.125. That happens because a song is getting played more than it was yesterday, and so the expected audience for the full week will be 125,000 greater than what we thought it would be. This happens because radio stations are playing a song more and more with each passing day, not playing it the same amount everyday. The increases are also bigger when a big station, which broadcasts to a bigger audience, starts playing a song. |
I feel really special right now. And not in the good way for having 3 diff people explain to me what AI is. 
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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But we already knew this, right?
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Member Since: 6/26/2011
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
But we already knew this, right?
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Yes. Coming up....
JUNE
6 - Live Lounge (London)
9 - Capital Summertime Ball (London)
23 - Pop Music Festival (Sao Paulo, Brazil)
28 - DUETS 1st Live Show!
29 - Summerfest 2012 (Milwaukee)
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by North & South
Yes. Coming up....
JUNE
6 - Live Lounge (London)
9 - Capital Summertime Ball (London)
23 - Pop Music Festival (Sao Paulo, Brazil)
28 - DUETS 1st Live Show!
29 - Summerfest 2012 (Milwaukee)
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Sao Paulo 
I should go see her there. Hopefully, all I would have to pay for is airfare and maybe food.
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Member Since: 9/24/2011
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Sao Paulo
I should go see her there. Hopefully, all I would have to pay for is airfare and maybe food. |
Brazilians! 
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