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Official: Archived: ATRL HQ (2012-2013)
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Member Since: 2/22/2012
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Originally posted by Vato
In NHB people got ban for "abuse" of the thread because they defended a member or commente on an argument.
- As far as I know, you're allowed to comment on arguments as they unfold, so i definitely have no idea about this. Maybe try talking to the mod who gave those warnings?
In SYG the discussion changed to men, and how the girls stanned for them and a certain mod handed out warning points and said they were off topic.
- It's my understanding that the conversation got "off topic" for talking about hot men which isn't necessarily stanning or trolling. Again, I would not warn this, but I can definitely see why the mod warned these.
People are getting warned for replying only with an emoticon and we have been doing that FOREVER!
- This type of posts has been warned for years, although, admittedly, not that often, but gif-only or smilie-only replies definitely fall under pointless.
Many members are being warned for "Annoying" but a mod said that the annoying points are subjective and can't really be up for discussion.
- Yup, this is actually the only warning that cannot be fought. If you're hit with "Annoying", a moderator got annoyed, subjectively, by you so there really isn't much to do here.
Members are posting comments to joke about an artist who they clearly stan for and being warned for it, i understand the mods can't keep up with who we all stan for BUT people seem to not be able to take jokes at all.
- This has also been brought up several times in the Mod Squad, and we always come to the conclusion that there's no way to tell apart "friendly" dragging from vicious dragging, so you will likely get warned for both.
The rules for NHB and SYG are being enforced to make it seem like you can only bash arist a "certain way" amd members a "certain way"
- This has been in place for a long time. NHB and SYG used to be free-for-all zones but it eventually got out of control with certain members posting extremely racist, homophobic or otherwise ignorant insults. You'll have to drag members without having to resort to such low tactics.
Members are also being warned for "pointless" "annoying" and "flamebait" for stating their opinions in a non hostile way. People shouldn't be able to control what you say AND how it is said. We are all different.
- I personally never warn flamebait. Usually if you get a warning from me, it will be when it's blatantly obvious Trolling. If you're hit with "Flamebait", I also suggest trying to contact the moderator that issued the warning. Opinions are sometimes taken out of context and we're glad to reconsider unfair warnings. As for "Annoying" and "Pointless", I already explained those in preceding paragraphs.
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I am starting to understand now, a bit
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Member Since: 5/24/2011
Posts: 29,233
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Quote:
Originally posted by RichGirlPlanet
I have a few questions lined up regarding ATRL.
1. if I want to discuss a users membership status (see below)
and then follow that with an insult, which section would I use?
No Holds Barred, or HQ?
2. If I wanted to criticize a mods work in an explicit manner, would I use HQ or NHB?
3. If HQ is in place, what purpose does the help tool now serve?
4. Why are emoticon only posts warned?
Emoticons are another way of emoting, which can mean just as much as an "this is funny" and such.
This can be said for gifs as well.
Are they warned when a quote is attached?
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5. So if we don't drag severely enough, we get banned from NHB?
Would these posts below warrant a ban from NHB?
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Originally posted by Volatile
Evidently, Mr. Yale had nothing to say to Ed's post.
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Originally posted by Kworb
I wish more people would send in FB votes
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6. Am I even posting this in the right thread?
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 11/1/2010
Posts: 26,750
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Originally posted by Muggwa
Who is the mod that banned half of the members on the site from NHB?
I still have an issue with that.
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It wasn't one, I think it was actually like 4-5 different mods at different times.
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Member Since: 2/22/2012
Posts: 3,968
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Can I get unbanned from NHB though? That is the last gripe I have, because I know the mods are dragging me to the pits right now and ready to ban
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
Posts: 38,919
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Quote:
Originally posted by Muggwa
Who is the mod that banned half of the members on the site from NHB?
I still have an issue with that.
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Probably Orange, but I'm sure if not him/her then it was the lazy one. I thought He/She was one of the more understanding mods but ch
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Member Since: 6/30/2012
Posts: 227
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I Wonder what the MODS think of me
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Member Since: 2/22/2012
Posts: 3,968
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Quote:
Originally posted by Drais•▲iko
Probably Orange, but I'm sure if not him/her then it was the lazy one. I thought He/She was one of the more understanding mods but ch
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Whispering is rude. May as well name drop.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 6/15/2007
Posts: 29,795
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Quote:
Originally posted by RichGirlPlanet
I have a few questions lined up regarding ATRL.
1. if I want to discuss a users membership status (see below)
and then follow that with an insult, which section would I use?
No Holds Barred, or HQ?
2. If I wanted to criticize a mods work in an explicit manner, would I use HQ or NHB?
3. If HQ is in place, what purpose does the help tool now serve?
4. Why are emoticon only posts warned?
Emoticons are another way of emoting, which can mean just as much as an "this is funny" and such.
This can be said for gifs as well.
Are they warned when a quote is attached?
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1. NHB because you are insulting the banned member.
2. NHB because you are criticizing a mods work in an explicit manner.
3. HQ is a place to talk about ATRL related things. For example warning points. Here you can complain about a warning point you got and hope a mod responds. If you don't get a direct response and still want to know a reason or possibly get it reversed then send in a help request. It is a more direct way to get to us.
4. They can be seen as pointless and bring nothing to the discussion. For me personally, I have generally stopped giving pointless warns to reported posts with just a smiley or a gif as a response because I know it's a way of responding. That doesn't mean I don't all together though, for me it depends on the situation
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 8/4/2009
Posts: 21,911
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You'll should just calm down, I mean, it's not that
difficult to not get WP's, I haven't received 1 all this year, and
this is the year I became more active.
WP's are not meant to get people out of the game, they are meant
to keep the forum under control and that more people can join and have
fun, talk about their faves, etc. If you receive a WP for a reason, then you
should avoid to commit that reason again; but some people get points for flamebait
or shading some artists and keep on doing that and they receive more points and yet
they come to complain about the issue.
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 11/1/2010
Posts: 26,750
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Quote:
Originally posted by WIG-SNATCHER
Whispering is rude. May as well name drop.
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He doesn't need to.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
Posts: 16,500
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Quote:
Originally posted by Muggwa
Who is the mod that banned half of the members on the site from NHB?
I still have an issue with that.
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You don't really use NHB for it's purposes, you're usually there to post "aw, poor that" every time a member gets banned (you can still do that but do it in this thread.)
No shade, though.
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Member Since: 5/24/2011
Posts: 29,233
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Quote:
Originally posted by RichGirlPlanet
5. So if we don't drag severely enough, we get banned from NHB?
Would these posts below warrant a ban from NHB?
6. Am I even posting this in the right thread?
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7. If the server was crashing often, would I bitch and complain about it here, or would I go to technical support instead?
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 12/29/2003
Posts: 6,311
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Quote:
Originally posted by RichGirlPlanet
I have a few questions lined up regarding ATRL.
1. if I want to discuss a users membership status (see below)
and then follow that with an insult, which section would I use?
No Holds Barred, or HQ?
2. If I wanted to criticize a mods work in an explicit manner, would I use HQ or NHB?
3. If HQ is in place, what purpose does the help tool now serve?
4. Why are emoticon only posts warned?
Emoticons are another way of emoting, which can mean just as much as an "this is funny" and such.
This can be said for gifs as well.
Are they warned when a quote is attached?
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1. What reasonable time does that occur? "Ashley just joined! WHAT A BITCH SHE IS"
Are you trying to cause a fight with Ashley? Then, NHB.
If you're just complaining about her becoming a member, then ATRL HQ.
2. If it's a specific mod, like calling me out, then NHB/PM/Wall makes more sense, honestly. This thread is for general discussion. Why should other mods have to try to look at this and help and solve stuff when you're clearly out to start a fight with me?
3. The Help Tool is sort of for the same stuff. Sometimes you may not want to post but still need help or something resolved. This thread is more for confrontational material, from my understanding.
4. Again, do you go around staring, making facial reactions, and laughing with people, never saying a word? When you deal with countless posts in a thread with that kind of image-only behavior, it get's irritating and, is, pointless.
In summary, NHB for fights or direct confrontation. ATRL HQ for general ATRL discussion.
Quote:
Originally posted by Muggwa
Who is the mod that banned half of the members on the site from NHB?
I still have an issue with that.
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It was a combined effort and as it has been repeatedly mentioned, the bans will be lifted in 14 days.
It's a way to remind people to use NHB for actual fights.
Quote:
Originally posted by Vato
In NHB people got ban for "abuse" of the thread because they defended a member or commente on an argument.
- As far as I know, you're allowed to comment on arguments as they unfold, so i definitely have no idea about this. Maybe try talking to the mod who gave those warnings?
In SYG the discussion changed to men, and how the girls stanned for them and a certain mod handed out warning points and said they were off topic.
- It's my understanding that the conversation got "off topic" for talking about hot men which isn't necessarily stanning or trolling. Again, I would not warn this, but I can definitely see why the mod warned these.
People are getting warned for replying only with an emoticon and we have been doing that FOREVER!
- This type of posts has been warned for years, although, admittedly, not that often, but gif-only or smilie-only replies definitely fall under pointless.
Many members are being warned for "Annoying" but a mod said that the annoying points are subjective and can't really be up for discussion.
- Yup, this is actually the only warning that cannot be fought. If you're hit with "Annoying", a moderator got annoyed, subjectively, by you so there really isn't much to do here.
Members are posting comments to joke about an artist who they clearly stan for and being warned for it, i understand the mods can't keep up with who we all stan for BUT people seem to not be able to take jokes at all.
- This has also been brought up several times in the Mod Squad, and we always come to the conclusion that there's no way to tell apart "friendly" dragging from vicious dragging, so you will likely get warned for both.
The rules for NHB and SYG are being enforced to make it seem like you can only bash arist a "certain way" amd members a "certain way"
- This has been in place for a long time. NHB and SYG used to be free-for-all zones but it eventually got out of control with certain members posting extremely racist, homophobic or otherwise ignorant insults. You'll have to drag members without having to resort to such low tactics.
Members are also being warned for "pointless" "annoying" and "flamebait" for stating their opinions in a non hostile way. People shouldn't be able to control what you say AND how it is said. We are all different.
- I personally never warn flamebait. Usually if you get a warning from me, it will be when it's blatantly obvious Trolling. If you're hit with "Flamebait", I also suggest trying to contact the moderator that issued the warning. Opinions are sometimes taken out of context and we're glad to reconsider unfair warnings. As for "Annoying" and "Pointless", I already explained those in preceding paragraphs.
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Thank you for the reminder post.
Quote:
Originally posted by Muggwa
So why did... someone, not me, get a point for saying "Which dumbass mod banned ****y"? They were complaining about it last night and I didn't think it was fair either.
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because that was you wondering why ****y was banned. Bans are ATRL HQ material.
If you knew X banned ****y, then you calling out X for their behavior would be NHB material.
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Member Since: 5/24/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Muggwa
So why did... someone, not me, get a point for saying "Which dumbass mod banned ****y"? They were complaining about it last night and I didn't think it was fair either.
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This is what I mean.
The question was referencing last night.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
Posts: 38,919
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Quote:
Originally posted by RichGirlPlanet
7. If the server was crashing often, would I bitch and complain about it here, or would I go to technical support instead?
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Girl have they answered any of your previous questions yet? You know they like to pick and choose what to address.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 6/15/2007
Posts: 29,795
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Quote:
Originally posted by RichGirlPlanet
5. So if we don't drag severely enough, we get banned from NHB?
Would these posts below warrant a ban from NHB?
6. Am I even posting this in the right thread?
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5. NHB is for fights that you would normally get warned for in other places. If it looks like a fake fight between you and your friend then you would probably get banned from NHB.
For Kworbs post, I would personally warn it for off-topic
*insert sarcastic Tizaino gif here*
6. Yes you are
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
Posts: 33,611
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Quote:
Originally posted by Porygon2z
You'll should just calm down, I mean, it's not that
difficult to not get WP's, I haven't received 1 all this year, and
this is the year I became more active.
WP's are not meant to get people out of the game, they are meant
to keep the forum under control and that more people can join and have
fun, talk about their faves, etc. If you receive a WP for a reason, then you
should avoid to commit that reason again; but some people get points for flamebait
or shading some artists and keep on doing that and they receive more points and yet
they come to complain about the issue.
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You are right, but people are USING them to get people out of the gave.
and I got five in the last week. Two for talking about celebrities in SYG.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 6/15/2007
Posts: 29,795
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Quote:
Originally posted by RichGirlPlanet
7. If the server was crashing often, would I bitch and complain about it here, or would I go to technical support instead?
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7. You can bitch about it here... if it's a specific page not loading or you are getting some funky weird message that you haven't received before on any page then go to technical support.
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Member Since: 4/1/2011
Posts: 6,382
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I love orange.
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
Posts: 18,295
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ATRL needs a food & drink icon tbh.
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