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Even though no one would be here for it (fans I mean), she could have a fantastic and successful album if she released a 10-11 track LP with unreleased material and a few new tracks to keep fans satisfied. Tracks like Second Time Around, Future Love, Out of Control, Reloaded, Retro Physical, No Way, Nothing On etc. with 3 or 4 new tracks. It'd be an easy way for her return back to her days as a less serious pop star, and possibly get some good decent hits out of it.
I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but it's so fun imagining Gaga slaying. 
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Originally posted by jayyyxtee
She would be instantly compared to Bey and they'd call her a failure not pretentious
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but plenty of artists release a single and then don't have a set album release date and then it just drops. Bey didn't even have a lead single, i'm not advocating for that.. just that once the single's out, just focus on the single, and bam drop the album a month or two afterwards.
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Originally posted by Jack!
Even though no one would be here for it (fans I mean), she could have a fantastic and successful album if she released a 10-11 track LP with unreleased material and a few new tracks to keep fans satisfied. Tracks like Second Time Around, Future Love, Out of Control, Reloaded, Retro Physical, No Way, Nothing On etc. with 3 or 4 new tracks. It'd be an easy way for her return back to her days as a less serious pop star, and possibly get some good decent hits out of it.
I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but it's so fun imagining Gaga slaying. |
Maybe not an album but an EP? I think that would be pretty great. Add MJH in as a single and it will slay.
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Originally posted by Jack!
Even though no one would be here for it (fans I mean), she could have a fantastic and successful album if she released a 10-11 track LP with unreleased material and a few new tracks to keep fans satisfied. Tracks like Second Time Around, Future Love, Out of Control, Reloaded, Retro Physical, No Way, Nothing On etc. with 3 or 4 new tracks. It'd be an easy way for her return back to her days as a less serious pop star, and possibly get some good decants hits out of it.
I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but it's so fun imagining Gaga slaying. |
no. she wouldn't though. there's nothing wrong with the boppiness of ARTPOP. if it had been released in 2011 it honestly would've had 4-5 hits, easily. the music industry's sound has shifted, and it's time for Gaga to drastically change her sound, either with the industry, or to something completely unique. the public has recently shown they want that - new innovative unique non-dance sounds. something r&b, something folky, hell maybe something jazzy - that hasn't been done in the pop scene yet. She'd be dragged endlessly for releasing a record of TF(M) rejects. The fans and critics alike would be disgusted, and the public perception would follow
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Originally posted by helloDer
no. she wouldn't though. there's nothing wrong with the boppiness of ARTPOP. if it had been released in 2011 it honestly would've had 4-5 hits, easily. the music industry's sound has shifted, and it's time for Gaga to drastically change her sound, either with it, or to something completely unique which the public has recently shown they want - new innovative unique non-dance sounds. something r&b, something folky, hell maybe something jazzy - that hasn't been done in the pop scene yet. She'd be dragged endlessly for releasing a record of TF(M) rejects. The fans and critics alike would be disgusted, and the public perception would follow
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Have you heard Second Time Around? It'd easily be a smash today.
And if we're honest, there's not a lot Gaga can do without being dragged by critics and now fans alike. I'm sure she'd sacrifice 7 or 8 songs for the sake of getting her career back on track again. She's not stupid, she's a smart businesswoman.
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Originally posted by Jack!
Have you heard Second Time Around? It'd easily be a smash today.
And if we're honest, there's not a lot Gaga can do without being dragged by critics and now fans alike. I'm sure she'd sacrifice 7 or 8 songs for the sake of getting her career back on track again. She's not stupid, she's a smart businesswoman.
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Wasn't that artpops job though?
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Originally posted by Jack!
Have you heard Second Time Around? It'd easily be a smash today.
And if we're honest, there's not a lot Gaga can do without being dragged by critics and now fans alike. I'm sure she'd sacrifice 7 or 8 songs for the sake of getting her career back on track again. She's not stupid, she's a smart businesswoman.
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but if your logic is that she's going to get dragged no matter what, and that what is important to her (& u) right now is getting some smash hits (so not judging you), then why not get in the studio with some hitmakers and record some killer new material? you're basically insinuating that no matter who she works with or what she does right now can't have smash potential 
she's an artist. yes, she's also a brand, a company, a money-maker. but at the end of the day she wants and yearns to create. and we as fans (or at least me) want and yearn for her creations.. if she were to settle for releasing TFM rejects I for one would leave the bitch in a heartbeat. and im sure she would hate herself if she ever did that.. I have no problem is sacrificing one album to have pure hits, but to not even dish out new material? that'd be too far
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Wasn't that artpops job though?
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As helloDer said though, it's not like artpop was current. I know her unreleased material isn't exactly current in an age sense, but in terms of whats popular, it's much more current.
Plus, I'm factoring that she needs an overhaul of her team. Cause it's not exactly working out the way it is right now.
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Originally posted by Jack!
As helloDer said though, it's not like artpop was current. I know her unreleased material isn't exactly current in an age sense, but in terms of whats popular, it's much more current.
Plus, I'm factoring that she needs an overhaul of her team. Cause it's not exactly working out the way it is right now.
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now with that I agree 100%! And honestly I think that's her one biggest problem. Not her creativity, not her focus etc etc.. it's her team. i'm not saying that's not her fault. it is, because she seems to fire anyone that comes close to making the hard decisions a team needs to make. But if interscope were able to hook her up with a new team - creative, producers, promotion etc. I have no doubt. not one. that she could be the IT GIRL one year in the future. but I don't think that will really happen..
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Originally posted by helloDer
but if your logic is that she's going to get dragged no matter what, and that what is important to her (& u) right now is getting some smash hits (so not judging you), then why not get in the studio with some hitmakers and record some killer new material? you're basically insinuating that no matter who she works with or what she does right now can't have smash potential
she's an artist. yes, she's also a brand, a company, a money-maker. but at the end of the day she wants and yearns to create. and we as fans (or at least me) want and yearn for her creations.. if she were to settle for releasing TFM rejects I for one would leave the bitch in a heartbeat. and im sure she would hate herself if she ever did that.. I have no problem is sacrificing one album to have pure hits, but to not even dish out new material? that'd be too far |
How am I insinuating that? I'm saying she has smash potential with songs that I listed. Even you said yourself ARTPOP has hit potential in 2011, not 2013. And I'm not saying I don't like the music, for the record. She can have smash potential, she just needs to hit the nail on the head with what's current. Even something like No Way which is still electronic would have smash potential right now. I don't care that she doesn't work with hit makers, RedOne wasn't a hit-maker when they did all the songs they did.
I don't question her artistry much, but at the same time, she's a pop star. Plus, you've seen how this place has been for the past while. It's so much more than getting a smash, it's about actually getting the music right.
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Why is it she could put out a whole Thanksgiving Special the month her album came out, but she couldn't send one measly tweet for Xmas? Pretty sad. 
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Originally posted by helloDer
now with that I agree 100%! And honestly I think that's her one biggest problem. Not her creativity, not her focus etc etc.. it's her team. i'm not saying that's not her fault. it is, because she seems to fire anyone that comes close to making the hard decisions a team needs to make. But if interscope were able to hook her up with a new team - creative, producers, promotion etc. I have no doubt. not one. that she could be the IT GIRL one year in the future. but I don't think that will really happen..
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We'll see. I have faith she'll sort her team out. DJWS is a dickhead (and I don't problem with his productions, just him) and I want him out. Her team need to stop digging a hole for her.
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Originally posted by Jack!
As helloDer said though, it's not like artpop was current. I know her unreleased material isn't exactly current in an age sense, but in terms of whats popular, it's much more current.
Plus, I'm factoring that she needs an overhaul of her team. Cause it's not exactly working out the way it is right now.
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If the music was as good as TFM or TF she wouldn't really need to worry. I do think ARTPOP has better gems than her previous efforts (g.u.y. and Gypsy) her promo has been pretty good this era except the delay of the DWUW video it's just the music
Edit: also gaga herself, her persona and just everything about her has become a huge problem
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Why is it she could put out a whole Thanksgiving Special the month her album came out, but she couldn't send one measly tweet for Xmas? Pretty sad. |
Cause she realized more than half her fan base doesn't stand by her
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Originally posted by Jack!
How am I insinuating that? I'm saying she has smash potential with songs that I listed. Even you said yourself ARTPOP has hit potential in 2011, not 2013. And I'm not saying I don't like the music, for the record. She can have smash potential, she just needs to hit the nail on the head with what's current. Even something like No Way which is still electronic would have smash potential right now. I don't care that she doesn't work with hit makers, RedOne wasn't a hit-maker when they did all the songs they did.
I don't question her artistry much, but at the same time, she's a pop star. Plus, you've seen how this place has been for the past while. It's so much more than getting a smash, it's about actually getting the music right.
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by stating that you would rather have mastered versions of past album rejects (which are admittedly quite nice) than have her work on new material you insinuate that those past songs are better than anything she could make now.
and listen, i'm not saying I don't want her to create smashes. I do! I wouldn't mind an album where interscope really sat her down and helped her craft some new smash hits like they did with her on TF.. I'm just saying I'd rather those smashes be new material that I (we) can enjoy than have those smashes be songs that I've already heard & had time to enjoy.
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Why is it she could put out a whole Thanksgiving Special the month her album came out, but she couldn't send one measly tweet for Xmas? Pretty sad. |
i am a bit sad about this.. but ive had a killer christmas without it so it's really nbd. For what it's worth, I'm sure she does really love us but a lot of monsters have been sending a lot of hate her way, much more than criticisms, like actual hate. so it's understandable if on this one happy day she wants to ignore us and spend time with her fam & friends.
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Originally posted by jayyyxtee
You've really gotten into the Christmas spirit
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You think our fanbase won't find something to have meltdowns over? Chile... They'll be dragging her for not being number one.
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Originally posted by jayyyxtee
If the music was as good as TFM or TF she wouldn't really need to worry. I do think ARTPOP has better gems than her previous efforts (g.u.y. and Gypsy) her promo has been pretty good this era except the delay of the DWUW video it's just the music
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I agree. I love the music on ARTPOP, it's just trendy or good enough. She needs to stick her thumb out and keep her head down for her next album. I think her promo has been a bit messy though. The promo she's done isn't bad, there just should have been more of it and especially on album release week.
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Originally posted by helloDer
by stating that you would rather have mastered versions of past album rejects (which are admittedly quite nice) than have her work on new material you insinuate that those past songs are better than anything she could make now.
and listen, i'm not saying I don't want her to create smashes. I do! I wouldn't mind an album where interscope really sat her down and helped her craft some new smash hits like they did with her on TF.. I'm just saying I'd rather those smashes be new material that I (we) can enjoy than have those smashes be songs that I've already heard & had time to enjoy.
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That's not what I'm saying though. Releasing old tracks would admittedly be the easy way for her to some-what return to that care-free sounding music she had in her previous years. Or perhaps not care-free, but less thought provoking. As far as hit potential goes, yeah, I think these old songs do have more hit potential than her current material, if I'm honest. 
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Originally posted by helloDer
by stating that you would rather have mastered versions of past album rejects (which are admittedly quite nice) than have her work on new material you insinuate that those past songs are better than anything she could make now.
and listen, i'm not saying I don't want her to create smashes. I do! I wouldn't mind an album where interscope really sat her down and helped her craft some new smash hits like they did with her on TF.. I'm just saying I'd rather those smashes be new material that I (we) can enjoy than have those smashes be songs that I've already heard & had time to enjoy.
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As of lately she has proved us right by not providing songs that are bad compared to her past work. She knows that too and it probably kills her.
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Originally posted by jayyyxtee
As of lately she has proved us right by not providing songs that are bad compared to her past work. She knows that too and it probably kills her.
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I agree. Like no one would take her seriously if she said in an interview ARTPOP wasn't as good as her past material, so obviously she has to hype it to be better than the rest. I think she knows she can write better songs.
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