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Video Games: Super Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS • Cloud Strife
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Originally posted by shelven
This is not even close to being a good enough reason to make Lucina a separate character instead of just a palette swap
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It's hard to explain, but, basically, they aren't the same person and those small characteristics got her her own slot.
For example, you wouldn't have Dixie Kong be an alternate costume for Diddy Kong.
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Originally posted by waryofothers
It's hard to explain, but, basically, they aren't the same person and those small characteristics got her her own slot.
For example, you wouldn't have Dixie Kong be an alternate costume for Diddy Kong.
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Yeah, I understand. It's just funny to see both her and Marth because she literally looks IDENTICAL to Marth, except female.
Although honestly, considering Robin already brought the Fire Emblem character count to a series high of 3, I don't see why we needed 4. I get Fire Emblem's become more popular lately, but as of now it has double the amount of characters as the Kirby series
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by shelven
Yeah, I understand. It's just funny to see both her and Marth because she literally looks IDENTICAL to Marth, except female.
Although honestly, considering Robin already brought the Fire Emblem character count to a series high of 3, I don't see why we needed 4. I get Fire Emblem's become more popular lately, but as of now it has double the amount of characters as the Kirby series
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Fire Emblem > Kirby
Stay salty
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It supposedly leaked
rumoured to be these 50 characters
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Member Since: 8/17/2012
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Originally posted by Starships
Fire Emblem > Kirby
Stay salty
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I've never played Fire Emblem so I don't have a personal opinion on this, but the receipts say otherwise
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Originally posted by BadMonster
It supposedly leaked
rumoured to be these 50 characters
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Lmao no.
We just got Lucina and Robin, and Chrom is confirmed to be part of Robin's Final Smash
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Member Since: 8/17/2012
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Originally posted by BadMonster
It supposedly leaked
rumoured to be these 50 characters
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This picture doesn't have Lucina or Robin in it, so it's fake.
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Lucina
Let's start with Lucina (first image). She has the exact same set of special moves that Marth does, but like the game's director Masahiro Sakurai explained, the main difference between Lucina and Marth is that the former's moves will do the same damage regardless of which part of her blade hits, whereas Marth's attacks will only do maximum damage if the tip of his blade brushes the opponent.
One very important detail that both the character reveal trailer and Sakurai left out, however, is that you can actually start a match as Lucina with her mask on. In fact, Lucina has a taunt that lets her put on or remove the mask, in a similar fashion to Guile's "sunglasses" taunt in Ultra Street Fighter 4.
Captain Falcon
The second image you see above from Famitsu provides a brief overview of Captain Falcon's moves. It would appear that not many changes has been made to Captain Falcon's move set from Super Smash Bros. Brawl to the new verison for Wii U and 3DS.
One detail that might be new, however, is that if you activate Captain Falcon's neutral-B special, Falcon Punch, and immediately push the analog stick in the direction opposite of the character is facing, Captain Falcon will actually unleash this signature move in the opposite direction -- which does more damage. Please let me know in the comments if this was already possible in past Smash Bros. games. Edit: According to kac1010 in the comments, this was added in Brawl.
Robin
Famitsu also provided a very detailed rundown of Robin's special moves in the game (3rd and 4th images). Check out our translation of the details below:
Robin's Forward Smash
This move strikes your opponent with Robin's Thunder Sword. However, as you can only use Robin's Thunder Sword attacks a certain number of times, once you've run out of uses, this attack will hit with a regular bronze sword instead.
Forward air attack
When performing this move, if you were to smash the analog stick in the forward direction, Robin will attack with his Thunder Sword for additional electric damage. But like all of Robin's Thunder Sword attacks, you can only use the improved version a finite number of times.
Down+B: Nosferatu
Purple-black smog in the shape of a snake appears right in front of Robin when this move is used. If your opponent is hit by it, he or she will be "cursed" by the spell. When a cursed opponent is hit, Robin's health meter will recover. What's also interesting is that if the cursed opponent is struck from the back, the amount of health Robin recovers will be larger.
Neutral B: Thunder
Hitting the button once will activate a charging period for Robin's Thunder spell, and hitting it again will cast it. The amount of time Robin charges will determine the version of the spell cast (Thunder, Elthunder, Giga Thunder, or Tron).
While charging, you can also hit the shield button to cancel the move and store the charge -- the next time you hit the B button, Robin will resume charging from wherever you left off previously.
Up+B: Elwind
When this special move is performed in the air, Robin produces two green projectiles that he sends flying downwards, which simultaneously propels him upwards. However, you can only use this move a limited number of times. Once you've exceeded the number of uses, Robin will not produce the projectiles or jump higher.
Side+B: Giga Fire
Robin produces a projectile that flies diagonally downwards. When the projectile comes into contat with the stage, an opponent, or an item, it will generate a pillar of fire that spreads upwards, and deal area damage to anyone nearby.
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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/j...wii-u-and-3ds/
Robin seems badass
Translated interview:
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We've just announced two new characters who will be joining the fray in the upcoming Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U. One is Robin, the avatar from Fire Emblem: Awakening, and the other is Lucina, a swordswoman who plays an important role in the same title. I'll skip over the details.
"What? Not Chrom!?" I suspect a lot of you will ask. Of course, Chrom is quite popular, being the protagonist of FE:A and all. However, I chose Robin and Lucina, and I will elaborate on my reasoning.
Robin appears in the game as a Tactician and functions much like a Mystic Knight (note: FF terminology, but equivalent to magic swordsman). I thought to utilize his all-around nature by assigning swordplay to his Smash attacks and magic tomes to his special attacks--that is, allow him to use magic.
His neutral special is thunder magic that grows stronger the larger you charge it. He uses fire magic for his side special, and wind magic for recovery as his up special. Although Robin doesn't use dark magic in FE:A, I decided to assign it as his down special. It isn't the first time I've given moves to a character that they don't use in their respective game in order to capture certain aspects of the original title.
I also implemented the system used in FE:A, in which tomes break after overuse. Likewise, I included a similar system for the Levin Sword, which breaks after a certain number of uses. However, both the tomes and the Levin Sword will quickly regenerate after a set period of time.
Lucina uses the same techniques as Marth, a fighter with whom I'm sure most of you are already familiar. I even went so far as to make their strength, speed, and special attacks almost identical.
However, what sets Lucina apart is the fact that the strength of her attacks is uniform along the blade. Marth's playstyle emulates the elegant swordplay of a fencer by dealing more damage when he strikes with the tip of his blade, but the damage Lucina deals is evened out. Thus, I think that Lucina will be much easier than Marth for novice players to play with.
I played all the way through FE:A and really wanted to include a character from that rich cast in Smash Bros. Naturally, I considered adding Chrom to the roster, but the decision wasn't easy by any means.
At the end of the day, Chrom would just end up being another plain-old sword-wielder like Marth and Ike. Compared with other characters, he lacks any unique characteristics.
Conversely, when the idea of including Robin came to mind, conceiving the character was so easy that I immediately saw how it would work. From standards to specials, grabs to throws, all aspects of his moveset just fell into place. Not only did he possess characteristics unlike other fighters, but he also captured the essence of the Fire Emblem series. It was perfect!
In the end, if a game isn't fun, then there's no point. Of course, it would be really easy to make a game by churning out a ton of similar characters, but that's not how I produce games.
Initially, I had considered including Lucina as one of Marth's alternate costumes. After all, she has a close relationship with him in FE:A. In such cases, even if two characters' names and voices differ, as long as they function the same way, I assign them as alternate costumes. The Wii Fit Trainers, Villagers, and Robin are examples of this setup.
However, even though Lucina shares her physical stats and techniques with Marth, the characteristics of their attacks differ. When two such similar characters function in an even slightly different manner, I give them a separate spot on the roster since that will affect battle records and whatnot. In that sense, you could say she was very lucky to join the fray!
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soooo excited.
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Originally posted by shelven
Yeah, I understand. It's just funny to see both her and Marth because she literally looks IDENTICAL to Marth, except female.
Although honestly, considering Robin already brought the Fire Emblem character count to a series high of 3, I don't see why we needed 4. I get Fire Emblem's become more popular lately, but as of now it has double the amount of characters as the Kirby series
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There's no other character in the Kirby universe that's worthy of another character slot tho. Besides, Master Hand and a lot of other things are from the Kirby series. The creator of Smash is also the creator of Kirby so
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I need this bitch
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Originally posted by Starships
Fire Emblem > Kirby
Stay salty
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This gif tho
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Originally posted by conseeded
There's no other character in the Kirby universe that's worthy of another character slot tho. Besides, Master Hand and a lot of other things are from the Kirby series. The creator of Smash is also the creator of Kirby so
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Well I'm just waiting for the confirmation of Meta Knight's return. Once that happens, I'll be happy
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So Sakurai chose Lucina over Chrom because he was worried Chrom would end up just like Marth?
Of course this is just an idea now, but I think it would have been a good idea to add Chrom and Lucina as one character (like the Ice Climbers/Rosalina) to represent the Pair Up function from Awakening. That way you have a unique character slot and both characters get in. But oh well
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There is no way that I'm ever using that villager, but I can't wait to use Little Mac!
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So what stages do y'all want to return from the previous games?
64:
-Hyrule's Castle
-Safron City
Melee:
-FOUNTAIN OF DREAMS(the main song alone >>>)
-Pokefloats
-Temple
-Corneria
-Great Bay
-Kongo Jungle
-Peach's Castle
-Fourside
Brawl:
-Luigi's Mansion
-Pirate Ship
-Wario Ware
-Picto Chat
Brawls stages are so forgettable
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Originally posted by shelven
I get Fire Emblem's become more popular lately, but as of now it has double the amount of characters as the Kirby series
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I'm hoping for Meta Knight and Waddle Dee.
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Waddle Dee? Why does everyone want him? He is nor that unique at all.
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Originally posted by BadMonster
It supposedly leaked
rumoured to be these 50 characters
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You must be gullible.
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