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Billboard has also answered the call of music industry insiders who raised an issue regarding song remixes. A growing trend in the early first decade of the 21st century was to issue a song as a "remix" that was so drastically different in structure and lyrical content from its original version that it was essentially a whole new song. Under normal circumstances, airplay points from a song’s album version, "radio" mix and/or dance music remix, etc. were all combined and factored into the song’s performance on the Hot 100, as the structure, lyrics and melody remained intact. Criticisms began when songs were being completely re-recorded to the point that they no longer resembled the original recording. The first such example of this scenario is Jennifer Lopez’ "I'm Real". Originally entering the Hot 100 in its album version, a "remix" was issued in the midst of its chart run that featured rapper Ja Rule. This new version proved to be far more popular than the album version and the track was propelled to number one.
To address this issue, Billboard now separates airplay points from a song’s original version and its remix, if the remix is determined to be a "new song". Since administering this new chart rule, several songs have charted twice, normally credited as "Part 1" and "Part 2". The remix rule is still in place.
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The original barely did anything to smash the charts.
So if I'm not mistaken they counted both as one song. Therefore, they continued to follow with the "Remix" since it was achieving more airplay, paid the original dust, and changed their rules thereafter.
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I'm working on the thread now
That way I can just copy+paste when it's time to start
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Before I leave: are my buddies/JLOvers enjoying the party (the other thread)?
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Wait... Was the 'Get Right' remix with Fabulous a single?
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Originally posted by conseeded
Wait... Was the 'Get Right' remix with Fabulous a single?
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The hip-hop mix or whatever is called got a video.
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LMFAO! Definitely!
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Were you going ?
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Alright. Our rate will start after the Mariah Carey and Missy Elliot rates are finished
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The remix version of Get Right was sent to radios after the less than stellar performance of the original and with the removal of the saxophone which some marked as annoying.
Plus Que Ironia was sent to selected countries as a radio single and Por Arriesgarnos isn't even listed on wikipedia which is strange. Then there is the remix version of Bably i Love u which didn't do much. The song Escapemos from the Marc Anthony duet from back in 2005 isn't also there. There's also the remix version of taio cruz's single dynamite that was sent to radio. And if I remember correctly wasn't there a song called carino that was sent to selected countries as well....that is all I know but I'm sure there were more, radio singles I mean.
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Originally posted by JLO_FeEN
The original barely did anything to smash the charts.
So if I'm not mistaken they counted both as one song. Therefore, they continued to follow with the "Remix" since it was achieving more airplay, paid the original dust, and changed their rules thereafter.
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But according to Billboard the single was rising until the remix version took over, but the original still made into a peak position of #2...This song would've been more memorable if she included it in her medley's along the years instead of sticking to the same few that she does. This could've been a lets get loud of sorts at least in Europe where it did pretty good and the UK. the most important market where it went top 5.
http://www.billboard.com/artist/jenn...history/339297
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Originally posted by JLO_FeEN
The original barely did anything to smash the charts.
So if I'm not mistaken they counted both as one song. Therefore, they continued to follow with the "Remix" since it was achieving more airplay, paid the original dust, and changed their rules thereafter.
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Actually before the rules changed, they counted it as 2 songs. So basically Jen has 5, not 4. It's a little bit complicated
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Originally posted by Ishiba_Makuza
The remix version of Get Right was sent to radios after the less than stellar performance of the original and with the removal of the saxophone which some marked as annoying.
Plus Que Ironia was sent to selected countries as a radio single and Por Arriesgarnos isn't even listed on wikipedia which is strange. Then there is the remix version of Bably i Love u which didn't do much. The song Escapemos from the Marc Anthony duet from back in 2005 isn't also there. There's also the remix version of taio cruz's single dynamite that was sent to radio. And if I remember correctly wasn't there a song called carino that was sent to selected countries as well....that is all I know but I'm sure there were more, radio singles I mean.
But according to Billboard the single was rising until the remix version took over, but the original still made into a peak position of #2...This song would've been more memorable if she included it in her medley's along the years instead of sticking to the same few that she does. This could've been a lets get loud of sorts at least in Europe where it did pretty good and the UK. the most important market where it went top 5.
http://www.billboard.com/artist/jenn...history/339297
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Baby I Love U! Remix is not officially sent to radio, so we can put it out
I'm not sure whether Por Arriesgarno was released or not, but even if it was released, it was still a very minor release so we can put it out too
Yup, Carino is promotional single
Dymamite remix is just a demo record if I remember right
Don't trust that history chart It has a lot of mistake For example, Donna Summer has no #1 or Get Up by Ciara spent only 3 weeks in the chart Both version reached #1, I'm sure about that
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Gurls please read it
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"I'm Real" debuted at 66 on the US Billboard Hot 100 on the week ending July 7, 2001, earning the "Hot Shot Debut of the Week" title and debuting on the Billboard Hot 100 Airplay at 55. "I'm Real" jumped to 40 in its second week on the Hot 100 and moved up to 32 on the Hot 100 Airplay chart. In its third week, the song continued to steadily increase, reaching 25 on the Hot 100 and 20 on the Hot 100 Airplay chart.By its fourth week, the song had reached the top twenty, fueled by increasing airplay.
On September 8, 2001, "I'm Real" replaced Alicia Keys' "Fallin'" as the leader of both the Billboard Hot 100 and Hot 100 Airplay chart. "I'm Real" spent the next three charting weeks at the summit and was subsequently knocked out of the top spot by "Fallin'", which boasted an additional three consecutive weeks at number one. After three weeks stalled at number two, "I'm Real" returned to number one again for a final two weeks, through October 27, 2001. "I'm Real (Murder Remix)" was a staple on R&B/hip hop and pop radio during the summer and fall of 2001, spending fifteen weeks in the top five of the Billboard Hot 100. In 2009 the single was named the 30th most successful song of the 2000s, on the Billboard Hot 100 Songs of the Decade. The chart position of the Murder Remix was boosted by radio play of the album track, which led to complaints of unfairness and change of Billboard policy in 2002. Afterwards, airplay of identically named songs but with substantially different melodies was not combined when computing chart positions. Lopez's follow-up was "Ain't It Funny (Murder Remix)", another Ja Rule-featured remix, which also reached number one on the Hot 100.
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US Pop Songs: 1
US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs: 2
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Because the remix wasn't sent to Pop, so obviously the album version reached #1 on Pop.
Because we don't know exactly what happened in the chart, this is what I assumed:
the original version reached #1 for 3 weeks, and when the Remix Version is out in just few days after the original reached #1, Billboard merged airplay of both songs, that's why the song reached #1 for 2 final weeks.
"After three weeks stalled at number two, "I'm Real" returned to number one again for a final two weeks, through October 27, 2001." Since it's merged and the Remix is newer, it's more likely that people considered the Remix version reached #1.
"The chart position of the Murder Remix was boosted by radio play of the album track," so I guess at that time, the original still smashed on Pop. The airplay of the remix was raising itself on R&B and Hip Hop Radio, that's why the remix "spending fifteen weeks in the top five of the Billboard Hot 100".
I hope you can understand what I've just said It's hard to explain since I'm not native speaker
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Wait wait wait....... I know what exactly happened. lol
I'm Real (original) flopped in the US. That's why they released the remix. The version that charted on the Hot 100 was the Remix. Billboard got confused. They counted the remix as the original, but changed it later because they found out that the remix was the more popular version.
I'm Real debuted on the Hot 100 at #66 on July 7, 2001.
That same week:
Top 40 Tracks (Airplay)
Play #22 (= 14th week, down from #20)
I'm Real was not in the Top 40
Hot RnB/Hip-Hop Airplay
#23 I'm Real featuring Ja Rule (= 3rd week. It jumped from #35 to #23)
It's safe to say that I'm Real debuted on the Hot 100 because of the Murder Remix, not because of the album version! (I'm Real was never released as a physical CD single in the US. It charted because of airplay)
Billboard didn't really know what to do with it - because let's be honest, the Murder Remix was not really a remix lol. It wasn't until August when Billboard decided to credit Ja Rule on I'm Real.
They have always counted both versions as one song.
It was very confusing. That's why Billboard decided to change its rules in 2001/2002.
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Oh, and Baby I Love U featuring R Kelly was released in the UK! BBC Radio 1 had that version on their playlist and I think Top Of the Pops used that version in their countdown too.
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Originally posted by MiguelPortugal
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I missed it! Which thread?
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Originally posted by Onthe6
Wait wait wait....... I know what exactly happened. lol
I'm Real (original) flopped in the US. That's why they released the remix. The version that charted on the Hot 100 was the Remix. Billboard got confused. They counted the remix as the original, but changed it later because they found out that the remix was the more popular version.
I'm Real debuted on the Hot 100 at #66 on July 7, 2001.
That same week:
Top 40 Tracks (Airplay)
Play #22 (= 14th week, down from #20)
I'm Real was not in the Top 40
Hot RnB/Hip-Hop Airplay
#23 I'm Real featuring Ja Rule (= 3rd week. It jumped from #35 to #23)
It's safe to say that I'm Real debuted on the Hot 100 because of the Murder Remix, not because of the album version! (I'm Real was never released as a physical CD single in the US. It charted because of airplay)
Billboard didn't really know what to do with it - because let's be honest, the Murder Remix was not really a remix lol. It wasn't until August when Billboard decided to credit Ja Rule on I'm Real.
They have always counted both versions as one song.
It was very confusing. That's why Billboard decided to change its rules in 2001/2002.
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Thankkkk youuuu!!
In my 24 years of living, and 13 years of stanning, I have never heard of the original hitting the Top 20 nvm the Top 10.
The original was a flop. It was barely even heard on radio! I remember this was the reason why they sent out the remix in the first place.
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Originally posted by conseeded
Wait... Was the 'Get Right' remix with Fabulous a single?
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"Get Right" [with just Jen] was the single. The Fabolous remix was just an extra version that she also had on the album. He is not credited at all for the "Get Right" single, or having a Top 15 song.
From what I remember they was going to release the "remix version" from the album but not as a single just as a seperate video version, but they changed it to a "Hip-Hop" version because many people were complaining about the horns. That version wasn't a single it was just for the video. Which is why it was not heard on the album.
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Originally posted by Onthe6
Wait wait wait....... I know what exactly happened. lol
I'm Real (original) flopped in the US. That's why they released the remix. The version that charted on the Hot 100 was the Remix. Billboard got confused. They counted the remix as the original, but changed it later because they found out that the remix was the more popular version.
I'm Real debuted on the Hot 100 at #66 on July 7, 2001.
That same week:
Top 40 Tracks (Airplay)
Play #22 (= 14th week, down from #20)
I'm Real was not in the Top 40
Hot RnB/Hip-Hop Airplay
#23 I'm Real featuring Ja Rule (= 3rd week. It jumped from #35 to #23)
It's safe to say that I'm Real debuted on the Hot 100 because of the Murder Remix, not because of the album version! (I'm Real was never released as a physical CD single in the US. It charted because of airplay)
Billboard didn't really know what to do with it - because let's be honest, the Murder Remix was not really a remix lol. It wasn't until August when Billboard decided to credit Ja Rule on I'm Real.
They have always counted both versions as one song.
It was very confusing. That's why Billboard decided to change its rules in 2001/2002.
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Thank youuuu
But in conclusion, she has 4 or 5 #1? I'm really confused
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Originally posted by JLO_FeEN
Thankkkk youuuu!!
In my 24 years of living, and 13 years of stanning, I have never heard of the original hitting the Top 20 nvm the Top 10.
The original was a flop. It was barely even heard on radio! I remember this was the reason why they sent out the remix in the first place.
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stan since the age of 11
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